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Upgrading to Lion
Vanity | 07/20/2011 | Glenn

Posted on 07/20/2011 11:29:45 AM PDT by Glenn

I upgraded both of my Macs to Lion this afternoon.

Time to install and reboot (each): 40 minutes

After reboot:

Took about 30 minutes to upgrade my mail. Could do nothing while that happened.

Once the mail was processed, the system fully started.

Spotlight began reindexing in the background and it took a lot of CPU. Everything was running slow. Mail seemed to be the target of the Spotlight reindex.

Some notables:

Launch pad is great for an old man like me. Looking at those itty bitty icons in the application list was getting harder.

The new scrolling took a minute to get used to. You move your finger up the mouse to get it to scroll down. I adapted quickly.

Spell checking in Safari now. Great for FR posting!

I paid to upgrade my Mac Tower. The upgrade on my MBP was a freebie. I hadn't expected that.

Okay. So now I am off to explore what else is new.


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1 posted on 07/20/2011 11:29:47 AM PDT by Glenn
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To: Glenn

In before the AAA-bunch. I will probably wait to upgrade till this weekend. Bookmarked for any future updates.


2 posted on 07/20/2011 11:34:11 AM PDT by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: Glenn

Can’t wait to hear all about it. :)


3 posted on 07/20/2011 11:35:09 AM PDT by brytlea (Someone the other day said I'm not a nice person. How did they know?)
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To: Glenn

Thanks for pioneering. I do exactly the opposite, so I depend on guys like you to take the arrows for me. :-)

I have many older apps that I don’t believe will run on Lion so I’m seriously looking at Windows emulation as much more valuable than before.


4 posted on 07/20/2011 11:35:51 AM PDT by Leonard210 (Tagline? We don't need no stinkin' tagline.)
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To: Glenn

I don’t think of myself as a lion. You might as well though, I have a mighty roar.


5 posted on 07/20/2011 11:36:16 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: Glenn

Does the new upgrade really need 7GB. I have 4GB

Have to admit I am kind of scared to upgrade my IMAC from Snow leopard to Lion by myself. Was it pretty easy?


6 posted on 07/20/2011 11:38:20 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Glenn

Check Software Update, I hear the latest iTunes is 64-bit Cocoa for Lion now. It’s about time.

I’m still waiting to upgrade, maybe next month. I never upgrade any OS as soon as it’s available, not even OS X. I’ve never had one problem upgrading OS X, just general principle.


7 posted on 07/20/2011 11:39:57 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: freekitty
Was it pretty easy?

Like falling off a log. One button install. Fear not.

As to the 7GB, I am not sure. It was never an issue for me.

8 posted on 07/20/2011 11:41:18 AM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Glenn

I saw the requirement of 7GB in the installation requirement. Also what is Lion Server?


9 posted on 07/20/2011 11:43:13 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Swordmaker
Mac ping, FRiend!
10 posted on 07/20/2011 11:43:25 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: Glenn

Good to hear it went well. I am planing on doing my Mac tomorrow.


11 posted on 07/20/2011 11:44:17 AM PDT by matt04
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To: Glenn
Since installing Lion, I'm having trouble with the new iTunes and other updates...


12 posted on 07/20/2011 11:44:35 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: freekitty
7GB is free space on your disk. You have that, right?
13 posted on 07/20/2011 11:44:45 AM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: freekitty

System requirementsx86-64 processor (Macs with an Intel Core 2 Duo, Intel Core i3, Intel Core i5, Intel Core i7, or Xeon processor.)[9][13]
At least 2GB of RAM[14]
Mac OS X 10.6.6 or later (Mac OS X 10.6.8 recommended)[9]
7 GB of free Hard Drive space is recommended [14]
Some features require an Apple ID; terms apply. [14]
Some features require a compatible Internet service provider; fees may apply. [14]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Lion#System_requirements


14 posted on 07/20/2011 11:46:03 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Glenn

I’ll probably upgrade the iMac to Lion about the time iCloud launches. Of course, I’m trying to talk the Mrs. into letting me get the updated MacBook Air (with Lion).


15 posted on 07/20/2011 11:50:18 AM PDT by kevkrom (Imagine if the media spent 1/10 the effort vetting Obama as they've used against Palin.)
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To: Hodar

On my About this Mac; it shows everything except it shows 4GB; not 7 GB. No one has ever said that before. Do I have to take this in?


16 posted on 07/20/2011 11:51:13 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: pgyanke

Did you install updates after installing Lion??


17 posted on 07/20/2011 11:53:16 AM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Glenn

I just bought this IMAC in 9/10. I am updated on everything Snow Leopard. However, I am confused about the 7GB requirement. My About this Mac shows 4 GB. They said that was all I needed. I would hate to start a download and wonder why I am getting nowhere because I didn’t know I needed more space. Btw, just happened to catch that 7GB needed before downloading.


18 posted on 07/20/2011 11:55:37 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

See above. It needs 7GB of hard disk space to install. Open a window in Finder and it will show the GB available at the bottom of the window.


19 posted on 07/20/2011 12:02:49 PM PDT by jtonn
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To: Glenn

I tried!


20 posted on 07/20/2011 12:05:12 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: freekitty

You need 2 GB of RAM, sounds like you have 4GB.

You will need 7 GB of Hard Drive disk space - I would hope you have a lot more than that. Chances are your hard drive came with 300 GB or more.


21 posted on 07/20/2011 12:06:47 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: jtonn

I don’t understand what you are saying when you say “Open a window in Finder?” What window?


22 posted on 07/20/2011 12:09:53 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Glenn

I’m going to have to pick up a family pack.. it’s a lot cheaper..


23 posted on 07/20/2011 12:11:19 PM PDT by tje
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To: tje
I’m going to have to pick up a family pack.. it’s a lot cheaper..

Actually, the $29 download is the "family pack". Like anything else bought on the app store, you can use the Lion OS upgrade on multiple computers with a single purchase.

MacWorld recommends backing up the download file before installing, however, as the installation will wipe away the download file, and you don't want to have to pull the whole download off the web again for each machine.

24 posted on 07/20/2011 12:15:57 PM PDT by kevkrom (Imagine if the media spent 1/10 the effort vetting Obama as they've used against Palin.)
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To: Hodar

You know. I am really going to be mad; if I have to take this computer in for more space when I specially asked about upgrades and they said fine. Not good business practice being dishonest to customer.


25 posted on 07/20/2011 12:17:15 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Glenn

Make sure to run system update to get the new iTunes, and anything else that may have an update available that’s Lion specific - I got one for iWork11 as well as iTunes.

And yeah, the scrolling is going to take some getting used to... I’m very accustomed to my Logitech mouse with a scroll wheel. It’s bas-ackwards now :)


26 posted on 07/20/2011 12:19:38 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: freekitty
Slow down, frekitty.

The 4 GB is your RAM, not your disk space. Lion only requires 2 GB of RAM, so you're good there.

The 7 GB recommendation is for free hard drive space -- odds are you have that much available unless you've filled the whole hard drive. Open up Finder and do a "Get Info" on your hard drive under "Devices" -- that will tell you how much hard drive space you have available.

27 posted on 07/20/2011 12:19:56 PM PDT by kevkrom (Imagine if the media spent 1/10 the effort vetting Obama as they've used against Palin.)
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To: freekitty
My home office desk features a new iMac and my ten year old Dell PC. I'm slowly learning the Mac but out here in the woods, it's tedious...
28 posted on 07/20/2011 12:21:01 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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bookmark


29 posted on 07/20/2011 12:27:37 PM PDT by surely_you_jest (Obama has scars going over halfway around the back of his head. What's up with that?)
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To: Glenn

Do you have (do you need) multitouch trackpad input devices?


30 posted on 07/20/2011 12:31:41 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say 2+2=4. If that is granted, all else follows.)
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To: Jim Noble

No. It’s not a requirement, but I do use the Magic Mouse. I like it.


31 posted on 07/20/2011 12:34:10 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: kevkrom

LOL Maybe I have an IMac from Mars. There is no Get Info on Devices of Finder.

Here is what I found at bottom

Macintosh HD 484.69 GB available

I Disk 10.73GB available


32 posted on 07/20/2011 12:46:03 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Thanks. Lol Never claimed to know anything important about computers. I bought to stop an incredibly large computer continual repair bill for viruses on a PC. It’s paid off there.


33 posted on 07/20/2011 12:49:23 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

I’m in the process of downloading as I type. That’s the part that takes the longest. Anyway, take the 7GB free diskspace as gospel. You’ll need the space for working with the file. In fact, if you cAn, I’d free up a whole lot more space. Lion will try and create a recovery partition on the HD as well.

So don’t go out trying to upgrade without a full backup, and as I mentioned, free up as much space as you can.


34 posted on 07/20/2011 12:59:20 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: freekitty

There are 2 primary types of memory (that the non-engineer, non-programmer, non-chip designer) really cares about.

RAM and the size of your hard drive. Many Macs come with at least 2 GB, and many come with much more. You ONLY need 2 GB; you have 7 GB.

Hard Drive - I don’t know how big a hard drive you bought with your Mac. Many Macs came with a 300 GB drive; is your drive 97% full? If not, then you have more than 7 GB free - and you should be fine.

If you pull up the info panel on your hard drive; you will know the hard drive capacity, how much space you are using, and the all-important ‘Free space available’.

If you have more than 7 GB of free space available - you are golden, good to go.

If you have less than 20 GB of free space, I personally urge you to invest in a second hard drive and move some stuff over. Hard drives never run at peak performance when they are over 80% full. I cannot speak to the performance/capacity ratio on the new SSD (solid-state disks) that are now the latest screaming storage media. I simply don’t have any experience with them, yet.


35 posted on 07/20/2011 1:18:30 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Glenn; All

This lil ol granny just finished the download with no problems at all.

I noticed the change in direction for the mouse scroll, so went to preferences and looked for a check box. Sure enough, you can uncheck it, and the mouse will scroll just like it used to - for those too lazy to make the change.

Everything seems to be working fine. Now I have to get all my apps organized the way I like them on the Launchpad.

Seems very sweet to me, and I love the new calendar app!


36 posted on 07/20/2011 2:13:12 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: freekitty
Congratulations!

You have 484.69 GB available on your hard drive for the installation. Go for it!

37 posted on 07/20/2011 2:19:42 PM PDT by doc11355
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To: freekitty
Also what is Lion Server?

OS X Lion with various server functionality added. Most operating systems these days are the same between servers and clients, the main difference being the features and some settings tweaks, and for Windows the unlocking of various artificial limitations (such as maximum processor and memory usage).

38 posted on 07/20/2011 2:21:44 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: doc11355

Thank you and now if I can figure out how to back up files. LOL


39 posted on 07/20/2011 2:22:13 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Glenn

Hey guys, if you don’t ask; you ain’t ever going to stumble your way to success.


40 posted on 07/20/2011 2:23:09 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I'm slowly learning the Mac but out here in the woods, it's tedious...

Take a look at this page.

http://www.apple.com/findouthow/mac/

It contains short, simple video lessons on common Mac features. It makes learning Mac basics and the popular software programs (iPhoto, iMovie, etc.) really easy to learn.

I learned the basics and got started with video editing with iMovie in less than 3 minutes.

41 posted on 07/20/2011 2:26:33 PM PDT by doc11355
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To: antiRepublicrat

I’ve read some speculation that Lion Server may be headed towards offering local iCloud like functionality. Which i wuld like rather than having all my stuff transfered around in the big cloud. Don’t know, I’m just downloading the desktop at the moment.


42 posted on 07/20/2011 2:41:21 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Hodar
Hodar. This is my big boy. He is the one that is joined at my hip. He loves surfing on the computer. Has a standard poodle girlfriend named Sophie down the street. LOL Photobucket
43 posted on 07/20/2011 3:02:15 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Leonard210; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; ...
Apple puts Mac OSX Lion on the App Store for upgrading! —PING!


Apple Lion!

Please, No Flame Wars, Discuss technical issues, software, and hardware.
Don't attack people!

Don't respond to the Anti-Apple Thread Trolls!
PLEASE IGNORE THEM!!!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

44 posted on 07/20/2011 3:46:44 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: kevkrom

I was wondering about that, but couldn’t find any mention of that.. Anyway, it’s no big deal for me to run over to the apple store.. Always fun..


45 posted on 07/20/2011 3:48:22 PM PDT by tje
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To: Glenn

Upgraded iMac & both MacBooks without issue this morning. Safari FINALLY seems to be running like a good browser should & I’ve noticed a speed increase in the opening & closing of apps.

Well worth the $29.99!


46 posted on 07/20/2011 3:52:15 PM PDT by TheStickman
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Does that seem right to you?


47 posted on 07/20/2011 3:57:09 PM PDT by luigi
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To: freekitty

You need 3.47GB for the download, and about 3.5GB of free space to install it. Voila, 7GB of required install space.


48 posted on 07/20/2011 4:16:55 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: freekitty
Thank you and now if I can figure out how to back up files. LOL

Step 1: Buy an external hard drive big enough to hold your data
Step 2: Plug it in
Step 3: Click "Use as Backup Disk" when OS X asks if you want to

That's it.

49 posted on 07/20/2011 4:24:23 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Glenn

I am excited to get this done. I have to upgrade from leopard to lion. I’ve bought 2g new ram to add, but I don’t have the right little screwdriver. Once I get one I can try to do all this and give my 3 yr old iMac some new life.

If you back up regularly (I use super duper) that should be enough, right?


50 posted on 07/20/2011 4:27:11 PM PDT by Yaelle
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