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Bugout bags - general discussion on what you have in'em, recommendations, etc
just me | 7/22/2011 | reed13

Posted on 07/22/2011 5:36:50 PM PDT by reed13

On a seperate discussion the topic of bug-out bags came up and I thought it might be a good general topic for discussion. What everyone has in theirs, what is recommended, weights, why those items, more than one, differences for different family members, etc.


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51 posted on 07/22/2011 7:27:10 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: reed13

Seems silly to have a “Bug out bag” unless you live in some city then maybe. Wife and I live back in the mountains where we are 90% self sufficient. We go to the nearest town 22 miles away usually once a month for non essentials. If someone comes around they are promptly met by 5 Great Pyrenees dogs. We have adequate supply of things that go BOOM, so I advise anyone heading up this way to call first. We’re not going anywhere.


52 posted on 07/22/2011 7:27:55 PM PDT by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: reed13

Seems silly to have a “Bug out bag” unless you live in some city then maybe. Wife and I live back in the mountains where we are 90% self sufficient. We go to the nearest town 22 miles away usually once a month for non essentials. If someone comes around they are promptly met by 5 Great Pyrenees dogs. We have adequate supply of things that go BOOM, so I advise anyone heading up this way to call first. We’re not going anywhere.


53 posted on 07/22/2011 7:28:14 PM PDT by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: reed13

KelTec Sub 2000 in 40S&W Glock, and a Glock Model 22. As many twenty round or better mags as you can get. Both weapons use the same mags, and same ammo. Or, a Sub 2000 in Glock 17 and a Glock 17, same magazine dual use. The Sub 2000 folds up to 16 inches long, but is a carbine rifle.


54 posted on 07/22/2011 7:30:20 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: JamesA

Hurricane country.

It’s damn near de rigur here in Florida.


55 posted on 07/22/2011 7:31:21 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: reed13

“Survival kit contents check. In them you’ll find:

- One forty-five caliber automatic
- Two boxes of ammunition
- Four days’ concentrated emergency rations
- One drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine,
vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills
- One miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible
- One hundred dollars in rubles
- One hundred dollars in gold
- Nine packs of chewing gum
- One issue of prophylactics
- Three lipsticks
- Three pair of nylon stockings.

Shoot, a fella’ could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.”


56 posted on 07/22/2011 7:31:35 PM PDT by OCC
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To: papertyger

I have a Western Digital, My Worldbook II. Kind of overkill for my needs, but it has mirrored 1 TB drives. It thought I might need a media server in the near future and wanted the second drive for backup.


57 posted on 07/22/2011 7:38:51 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: reed13

The first question is: what is it that would make you leave?

THEN where, then what to take.

But really....why?

It would seem that if you’re leaving, you’re also not planning on coming back any time soon because the situation is beyond dire.


58 posted on 07/22/2011 7:45:53 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: reed13

FWIW, I used to have a bug out bag when working in Iraq. Clothes, food, caffeinated drinks/coffee, money in several currencies, pass port, yada yada yada, in case I ever got separated from a convoy, shot down, or in case any base I was at needed to evacuate.

The closest I have to that now is a bag of emergency items in the trunk of my car and one at my office.

But I don’t intend to leave home for anything less than an armed invasion.


59 posted on 07/22/2011 7:54:11 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: cripplecreek
...the vast majority of us rural and small town folks should stay put.

Exactly. The issue that some of us rural / small town folk might face is that of returning to our place of safety. A lot of us have had to range farther to find work, so the return home may be a difficult one depending upon circumstances.

For example, I work approx 42-44 miles away from our place in rural north Idaho. Ideally, I'll just get up from my desk, excuse myself by pleading a 'family emergency' (which won't be far off the truth) and drive home. However - I'm quite prepared to walk and or fight my way home if I must. So I've constructed a Get Out Of Dodge kit that will easily sustain me for 3 days in the field, and for five days if I stretch it. It's designed for speed and mobility, but it still weighs about 60 pounds with a full load-out of food, water and ammunition. That weight includes everything right down to weapons, helmet and combat uniform.

I've completely re-written my original post, A High Mobility 72 Hour Kitand I plan to re-publish it complete with pictures.

60 posted on 07/22/2011 8:08:34 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: Noumenon
Ignore that last link this one's more up to date: A High Mobility 72 Hour Kit
61 posted on 07/22/2011 8:26:13 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: OCC

“Survival kit contents check. In them you’ll find:

- One forty-five caliber automatic
- Two boxes of ammunition
- Four days’ concentrated emergency rations
- One drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine,
vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills
- One miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible
- One hundred dollars in rubles
- One hundred dollars in gold
- Nine packs of chewing gum
- One issue of prophylactics
- Three lipsticks
- Three pair of nylon stockings.

Shoot, a fella’ could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.”

Beat me to it! Interesting point: that quote was originally about a weekend in Dallas but the flick was released a few days after Kennedy was killed here and the producers thought it would be in bad taste so they changed it to Vegas.

I’m not going anywhere, I mean hell, where would I go? I have lived a good long life, and Garland TX seems like a good place to die. (/sarc)


62 posted on 07/22/2011 8:41:20 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: Noumenon

Good stuff. However, may I humbly suggest consolidating your carbine and pistol for one of the somewhat more concealable 5.56 pistols?

200 yard range with assault rifle firepower. Stows in just about anything you’d use for a BOB without alerting everyone who can put an eyeball on you you’re heavily armed.

What’s not to like?


63 posted on 07/22/2011 9:32:51 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: papertyger

What’s not to like? Muzzle blast, for one. I’ve shot a couple of ‘em over the years. Muzzle flash was pretty ferocious, too, as I recall. I get enough bark from my 16” barrel AR carbine as it is.

I use Silencio earplugs - these are the ones that allow you to hear what’s going on around you, but block transients and high impulse sounds well enough to protect your hearing. They’re comfortable enough to wear all day long, and I’ve tested that premise at Appleseed shoots.

Ultimately, it’s a matter of personal preference.


64 posted on 07/22/2011 9:42:58 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: West Texas Chuck

We think alike. I’m already where I want to be. I want to be sure that I can get back here when things start getting ugly. When those ATMs shut down, it’ll get... unpleasant in less than than an hour.


65 posted on 07/22/2011 9:47:57 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: reed13

At a minimum I would add in.

Rain gear
Three or four pairs of socks
sharpening stone
small metal mirror
Asprin
Laxative
Kotex for bandages
Tampax for Mrs.
Sports bra for Mrs.
toilet paper
Sunburn lotion
sunglasses
magnifying glass
fishing line w/hooks
Dial soap
Razor blades
small metal bowl, 1 qt.


66 posted on 07/22/2011 10:10:20 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: KEVLAR

>>If the SHTF, I don’t think a safe exit from the Chicago burbs is feasible.<<

On a small motorbike it would be.


67 posted on 07/22/2011 10:11:54 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: passionfruit

Thanks for the tip.


68 posted on 07/23/2011 4:53:58 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Saturday fun thread.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

69 posted on 07/23/2011 8:11:12 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower

I put one together around 20 years ago, more out of curiosity/fun than thinking I would really need it.

I need to get it out and check it over just to see what is there. I don’t think there is anything perishable except maybe some water purification tablets and they probably last a long time.

A few things I know are in there are: 500 rounds of .22LR., a bunch of fire starting devices, a lot of cord and rolls of wire. Gerber and Leatherman tools, knives, sharpening stone, and a hatchet. Bandage, athletic tape, and band aids.

I might get it out right now and check.


70 posted on 07/23/2011 8:41:52 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Joe Brower

We bug in....


71 posted on 07/23/2011 8:52:58 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: yarddog

Well I just checked my bag and was surprised by a few things. A really large number of candles and a candle lantern,

A bag of latex gloves. I have no idea why I packed them. Even more matches fire starters etc than I thought. Plastic eating utensils still in their plastic. Compass. Boy Scout handbook. Writing pens, several packs of small nails. Sewing kit. brush (again I don’t know why), more needles, more sewing thread, even more compasses. Scotch tape?

150 yards of 80lbs test fishing line. hooks. fairly large mirror. Referee’s whistle. Small mirror. Swiss Army knives, whetstones plus other sharpeners. Several rolls of coated wire.

A lot of other odds and ends which are buried in bag. There are a lot of little packs of toilet paper from MREs which I would remove but they are so light I will just leave them.

It is all in a large gym bag. I would guess half the area is taken up with various fire starters and candles.

I didn’t have a .22 LR pistol as I always have it at hand and would just naturally grab it.

I might put together another one. Take out some of the candles and replace it with first aid and other medications.

Also swap out a few other things such as the brush. Also noticed there was a steel eating utensil set so will take out the plastic ones.

Just noticed a small notebook and two space blankets in original packing. Also could not find the Gerber and Leatherman tools so will put some in. Also replace the scotch tape with duct tape.


72 posted on 07/23/2011 9:10:32 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: reed13
In which large city do you live; what will your destination be; how will you get there; and what event(s) will trigger your departure?
73 posted on 07/23/2011 9:18:09 AM PDT by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: yarddog

Now that I think about it, I am way too old to live off the land so will just stay home.

I probably do need to keep all my gasoline containers full, using them in a regular cycle. Also keep my vehicles tanks full.

When I get the money, will get another generator. The one I have is only 3000 watts. It will run the refrigerator but not the AC. I do have a small one in my bedroom window just for emergencies and it will run that one.


74 posted on 07/23/2011 9:30:17 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Noumenon

Toss a couple of those Aim N Flame lighters in. The other fire starters are great and I have similar in my OSK’s (Oh s*** Kits) but you can’t go wrong having a couple of those. LOL


75 posted on 07/23/2011 10:16:24 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: reed13

All highways out of the city will be blocked by wrecks, bodies, and trash within a 10 mile ring. Beyond that, staying at a well-prepared home is the better bet.


76 posted on 07/23/2011 10:23:19 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: yarddog

I start with fire and water purification
magnesium fire starter
and pool shock a one pound bag will clean 2000 gal of water.
survival book
compass
Whistle
survival kit in a can (that is the size of a sardine can with 38 items that can help save your life.)
chocolate bar
small bottles of liquor
pocket Constitution
NEED a small Bible
matches
compass
2 emergency blankets
handwarmers
neosporin
AND that doesn’t include my 1st aide kit which is huge!


77 posted on 07/23/2011 10:27:23 AM PDT by The Bat Lady (It's not IF but WHEN)
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To: papertyger
Good stuff. However, may I humbly suggest consolidating your carbine and pistol for one of the somewhat more concealable 5.56 pistols?

The old TT-33 pistol fires 7.62 X 25 light machine gun ammo. Very reliable. Very high penetration. Very cheap.

78 posted on 07/23/2011 10:28:31 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Krankor

good one...lol....


79 posted on 07/23/2011 10:43:53 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: reed13

Seems to me the most important stuff is the stuff in your head.

How are your skills?


80 posted on 07/23/2011 11:13:33 AM PDT by jdege
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To: B4Ranch

The motorbike I have, it only seats one however, no room for the wife and kids. I’ll be riding and camping in Utah for a week this fall with the bike and a backpack. Great way to test if you have packed the correct items.


81 posted on 07/23/2011 11:42:06 AM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: jdege

That is true but one of the things our brain allows us to do is choose the proper tools for a particular job.


82 posted on 07/23/2011 12:45:03 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: verity

I’m in NE ohio right now, but if I absolutely had to move out it would be to SW Indiana...2 routes SE past columbus and then W or Straight SE between Toledo/Dayton (While shorter I think it might be more difficult).


83 posted on 07/23/2011 12:46:40 PM PDT by reed13
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To: KEVLAR; jdege

I try to get out every summer on my own the wife takes the kids to see family overseas and I’m a geographic bachelor for work nearly 3 months out of the year - it means I have a lot of free time to bone up on stuff that I wouldn’t if they were around.


84 posted on 07/23/2011 12:49:35 PM PDT by reed13
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To: reed13

Whatever Sarah Connor recommends.

Seriously...

meds, medical supplies including splints,
guns and ammo for both personal protection and small game. Couple of days of food bars, rations and water.
Space blanket. Water purification tools. Knives, rope, string, wire spool.
Flashlight and spare batteries. Portable radio
fire starter (flint tool)


85 posted on 07/23/2011 1:17:30 PM PDT by hattend (Its a matter of public record that I did not go to Harvard Law School, but I can add. - Sarah Palin)
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To: B4Ranch

No B.O.B. needed... Rough and Ready here...


86 posted on 07/23/2011 1:46:37 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: Eagle Eye

I don’t know where you are in Texas, but a huge grass fire came within a half mile of my place last year and I was loading my pick-up with everything I could think of in case we had to evacuate. Didn’t have to leave but it makes you think.


87 posted on 07/23/2011 1:52:37 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: hattend
Im suprised I got to 85 replies before I saw ORT and anti-diahreal medicines. Millions of people die due to dehydration either due to drinking bad water, or diseases such as cholera and such. ORT therapy (oral-rehydration therapy) can be the difference in life and death if you or a loved one can't keep anything down.

Be sure to put an ORT kit together and make sure its current. Watching someone puke , piss, and shit the life out of them is something you don't want to ever see, especially of a loved one. Bad, bad, bad way to go.

88 posted on 07/23/2011 1:56:11 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Forget the Lawyers....first kill the journalists! - Die Ritter, die sagen, nee)
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To: Lurker

Aim N Flame lighters? Yep - got a bunch of ‘em around the house and shop. Lots of uses. Hadn’t thought about putting a couple in the kit, but it’s a good idea. I like the ones that have a flex tube.. Rough n ready is cool, but I’m lazy. I’ll take an Aim N Flame over a bow and spindle any day of the week. Point. Click. Done.


89 posted on 07/23/2011 2:23:49 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: JDoutrider

Last year a small group of us formed about 40 neighbors into a team to protect our assets. At the first sign of need, we’ll turn this into a gated, over lighted, over alarmed community with armed guards at the two entrances. Estimated initial costs are below $500 each. I’m sure the other 70 will sign on once they see an actual need.

Kind of like an HMO for security purposes only.


90 posted on 07/23/2011 2:43:42 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: antisocial

Are you in an area where you could use mowing machines to cut the flames height down? Could you cut the vegetation down to two inches 300 feet from the homes?


91 posted on 07/23/2011 2:50:03 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: The Bat Lady

Good list....
I have a Gov Issue ALICE pack with two canteens, two ammo pouches and a buttpack. When fully loaded it wieghts in at about 30lbs.
A good pair of boots is a must..and three pairs of socks and extra bootlaces.
If I had to walk out, I wouldnt make it far. Am surrounded on three sides by “Urban Youths”. It looks like Somilia here. SO I would have to dig in and fight it out.
“Fort Yorlik” Will not fall without a fight.


92 posted on 07/23/2011 2:57:04 PM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Nailbiter

bfl


93 posted on 07/23/2011 3:51:58 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: antisocial

Good point.

Our county has had over 1000 fire calls this summer already.

But with an evacuation does one actually need survival gear (guns, ammo, rations, filters, barter, etc) or grab all the irreplaceables (like with an impending hurricane) and hope for the best.


94 posted on 07/23/2011 4:02:36 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Noumenon

LOL. I prefer ‘wizened’ over lazy. I’ve got those Swedish fire starters, magnesium blocks, and parafin coated blue tips in my OSK’s, but those are in case the Mr. Scripto solution fails.

Here’s another thought. Toss a deck of cards in there. I know the idea is enough to get you home, but if you have to hole up someplace a deck of cards can help pass the time.

Best,

L


95 posted on 07/23/2011 4:21:29 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

I once tried to make my own “waterproof” matches. I took a hundred or so of the strike anywhere ones and dipped the match heads in hot candle wax.

For some reason it never occurred to me that they might not work. One day I decided to use some to start a fire and none of them would light. Not even if I scraped the tallow off. Maybe some other brands of matches or candles might have worked but mine did not.


96 posted on 07/23/2011 4:36:10 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: reed13
Well I have pondered this for many years. I actually have a basic BO (Ha!Ha!) bag and then situational adders. I live where there are 50 degree temp swings almost daily in the Summer and possible 0 for extended periods in the Winter. I adjust gear in vehicles twice a year to account for the season. One thing that I recently contemplated is the use of bicycles as a freight mover ala the NVA. You can move four times the weight on a cycle that you can move on your back. Around here a used mountain bike can be had for $20 at a yard sale and saddle bags can be fashioned easily from stuff around the house.

One thing I have in EVERY vehicle and EVERY BO bag is fire means. Magnesium sticks with a flint and simple but high quality knives. I have them to the point of ridiculous. Grab any BO bag from a fanny back to major clutch in my CJ and they all have a way of making fire with no stick rubbing. In the outback if I step out of the vehicle a BO goes with me.

Based upon your list I will be adding snare wire to all kits. Slow and somewhat inefficient but still very handy. Do not forget a roll of 550 paracord. Very versatile stuff.

97 posted on 07/23/2011 4:50:48 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (De Oppresso libre!)
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To: reed13
Oh flashlight. The little LED ones run about forever on one set of batteries. Chem light.
98 posted on 07/23/2011 4:52:49 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (De Oppresso libre!)
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To: posterchild
Camp lighting from Cabela’s still uses then (in some models).
99 posted on 07/23/2011 4:54:14 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (De Oppresso libre!)
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To: Lurker

Adventure Medical is putting out a line of first aid kits that feature a Quik Clot dressing.

Very handy, packable, and not too expensive, either.


100 posted on 07/23/2011 5:10:27 PM PDT by papertyger
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