Skip to comments.The Truth About My Trip To Hanoi (Jane Fonda lies about her treason)
Posted on 07/23/2011 11:17:51 AM PDT by pabianice
I grew up during World War II. My childhood was influenced by the roles my father played in his movies. Whether Abraham Lincoln or Tom Joad in the Grapes of Wrath, his characters communicated certain values which I try to carry with me to this day. I remember saying goodbye to my father the night he left to join the Navy. He didnt have to. He was older than other servicemen and had a family to support but he wanted to be a part of the fight against fascism, not just make movies about it. I admired this about him. I grew up with a deep belief that wherever our troops fought, they were on the side of the angels.
For the first 8 years of the Vietnam War I lived in France. I was married to the French film director, Roger Vadim and had my first child. The French had been defeated in their own war against Vietnam a decade before our country went to war there, so when I heard, over and over, French people criticizing our country for our Vietnam War I hated it. I viewed it as sour grapes. I refused to believe we could be doing anything wrong there.
It wasnt until I began to meet American servicemen who had been in Vietnam and had come to Paris as resisters that I realized I needed to learn more. I took every chance I could to meet with U.S. soldiers. I talked with them and read the books they gave me about the war. I decided I needed to return to my country and join with themactive duty soldiers and Vietnam Veterans in particularto try and end the war.
Barbarella lives in her own world, I think.
Nice try, traitor. On Fonda’s obituary, her consorting with the enemy during war time will be the leitmotif. She’s fooling no one, not even herself, with her revisionist history.
“The Truth About My Trip To Hanoi”
The truth is—you voluntarily went to an enemy country and aided and abetted the enemy. While our guys were dying in the field, you were screwing every commie that knocked on your Hanoi door. Now there’s your truth, witch. So piss off!
Like the other radical communists at the time, she wanted to end the war because she supported the communist side. Simple as that. Until she owns up to that fact, her explanations and excuses are worthless.
One trait outweighs all other aspects of this wretches life-TREASON!
What a load of BS! Henry Fonda was a script reader. Had he been cast as Karl Marx, Stalin, Hitler, or Judas he would have read the lines just as well.
Jane is a POS that as a minimum, should have been denied reentry after her visit to a hostile nation in which she gave aid and comfort. I think she should still be tried for treason.
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This is just a piece. Go to the source. It gets better.
You know what, Hanoi Jane? If you hadn’t gone on that trip, you wouldn’t find it necessary to explain yourself 40 years later. Protesting a war in your country is free speech. Protesting a war in your enemy’s country is treason.
Not just a communist, a terrorist. F*** the Army talks & scripts (thanks, Donald Sutherland) recommended officer-fragging.
I just don’t understand liars. You cannot turn back the hands of time and rewrite history.
We ALL know the truth. FU traitorous biatch!
I read her story on her web page and she almost had me until she started typing. Hanoi Jane and John Freaking Kerry gave the North the hope we would let up when it was clear that Nixons bombing campaign had them close to defeat. Not my words but the comments of a North Vietnamese General.
Her visit to the POW camp was memorable. This is baggage she can never shred .
The degrees of treason here differ. She was an ACK-TORE with one year of college. Kerry was an officer in the U. S. Navy with 4 years of Yale behind him who lied to Congress (and became a pretty-much permanent U. S. Senator). The penalty, however, is the same.
What is less frequently traced to La Fonda is the Vietnam Wall, a clear victory for the antimilitary forces in the U. S. at the time.
Use of Soviet Communist terminology in reference to German National Socialism is a dead giveaway.
She made propaganda broadcasts at least eight times on Radio Hanoi calling for our surrender, she brought home enemy talking points, and it is probable that she even brought enemy agents here, posing as "Vietnamese students".
Our government didn't have the spine to arrest her or the hundreds of other traitors that helped the North Vietnamese against us.
No amount of spinning (or fawning, empty-headed synchophants) will change the fact of her guilt.
And you're wrong: Jane Fonda was an active leader in the People's Coalition for Peace and Justice, a CPUSA front group. She founded and ran Save our Soldiers, a recruitment effort to try to snare some of the less-committed active duty troops to her cause. She ran the F--k The Army (FTA) "guerilla theater" outfit to subvert military discipline and unity.
Kerry only met with the enemy once, as far as we know - Fonda was in continuous communication with them, along with her doofus husband, Tom Hayden.
Don't fall for "poor little actress" scam: she was a cold-eyed, committed revolutionary and an America hater of the first rank.
She cannot deny she gave ‘aide and comfort’ to the enemy.
WinterSoldier.com has the only complete set of transcripts of Fonda's 1972 broadcasts on Radio Hanoi.
Note the similarities to the "war crimes" propaganda of John Kerry, the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, and generations of leftists since then.
In one of his books, Mike Wallace wrote about how he shared a cab to the airport with Jane Fonda and could not believe how out of touch she was with what was going on in the world.
Go do a sit up Jane and shut up.
Fonda will FOREVER be known as... Hanoi Jane....and never forgiven for it......
Dead or alive...Fonda will FOREVER be known as... Hanoi Jane and never forgiven for it......there will be a long waiting line to pi$$ on her grave as well
Please tell everyone you know....
“Don’t buy this book, don’t watch, buy or rent the stupid Robert Redford movie portraying the Weather Underground as patriots trying to save the country!”
They need to be shown that everyone remembers their lies.
She’s STILL a communist. A very wealthy one at that. And she wants MORE money, through the sales of her book and exercise tapes. Wouldn’t that make her a dirty stinking capitalist?
Agreed Mach 9. Treason is not just a military crime, but I understand the difference between a guy who used the military to advance his political career and a actress who while wrong, believed she was doing right. But her daddy should have bent her over the hood of a car and used a strap on her behind! Kerry should have been put in Federal Prison.
Maybe you should have met with some of the many many valiant Vietnam vets who could have taught you some truth. Instead, you became a tool of the traitorous scum minority (such as Jon F'N Kerry, et.al.) who took advantage of your blind commie naivety, Janey.
You might be able to blow smoke up the a$$es of younger people, HanoiJane, but we older veterans of that era remember your treasonous actions VIVIDLY.
I hope I outlive that commie turd so I can spit on her grave.
There must be recordings in her voice that are being suppressed.
On screwing Commies at the door. Is there any proof of this?
If true, the line: “Jane, you stupid slut!” would be appropriate.
I have a perfect picture for this thread if someone can tell me how to post it.
There is the Vietnam war...
The China Syndrome
Wasn't she involved in the ending of pesticides and DDT? (millions of dead from malaria after that)
and .. Dear God.. middle age fatties in SPANDEX thanks to her exercise videos
She should just say I was STUPID and I was WRONG and leave it at that
She was NOT some doe-eyed innocent - if anything, she was far more competent, far more committed than that imbecile Kerry. Don’t let her Barbarella act fool you: she’s a cold-eyed, rattlesnake-mean traitor who knew EXACTLY what she was doing.
Jane, the truth is that you went to a country that was our enemy in the middle of a war and gave them aid and sustenance. Thats called “Treason”. You disgraced your dear father and the whole country. You need to just thank God you weren’t brought up on charges and put in prison for 30 years. You have lived a life of luxury and fame ever since. STFU.
It was Rachel Carson who went to war on DDT.
When old Jane was young, she said it was only WWII vets who were against her - she never heard a word of abuse from Viet Nam vets. (Another lie, I know.)
What’s her excuse now that Viet Nam vets are against her? Those who fought in Iraq have never said a word against her?
She’s a genuine crackpot. The first and last time I saw her she appeared to be on drugs - downers, probably.
P.S.: About a year or two ago, she gave an interview to a British newspaper in which she said one of the rooms in her Atlanta house was shaped like an ovary or vagina, I forget which.
The interviewer called her “barking mad.”
If you google “Jane Fonda’s loft” you will see that her foyer is designed to look like a womb. In a putrid pink color. Just awful. The rest of the apartment looks like a architectural nightmare that send Donald Trump into a cold sweat.
Worst. Decor. Ever.
“On screwing Commies at the door. Is there any proof of this?”
She’s an enlightened and free spirit—I wouldn’t be surprised if she did dead bears.
I'm sure you can come up with a larger amount of bodily fluid than spittle. Go have a beer first!
LOL. That’s the first time I’ve ever been accused of being soft on Fonda! She should have been hanged for the role she played; but if that uneducated, tawdry actress/moron, a dupe of three husbands, should have been hanged—where does that put Kerry? He was the administrator of Viet Vets Against the War when she got interested in the Winter Soldier event. She paid for the venue, the transportation of the “vets,” the transcription of their “confessions.” But she’s not the one who came up with which “confessions” to accept and publicize, and which “penitents” to squeeze for more sensational stories. That was Kerry’s job, and one of the reasons he was able to communicate those “confessions” so volubly to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee two months later. That and the somewhat debatable fact that he was a “decorated’ Vietnam vet.
In brief, he knew the truth and lied, aside from meeting at least TWICE with the commies (Viet Cong as well as North Vietnamese) and, as a still active-duty serviceman, publicly lauded and advocated their “peaceful” solution; she knew NOTHING but her lines and read (and believed) them perfectly—which, by the way, never diminished her active leadership in communist party fronts. But you can’t seriously believe that any communist (other than Roger Vadim’s French theatrical associates) took her seriously—other than as a symbol and an attention-getter. Of course, she was cold-eyed, committed, and America-hating. And if she hadn’t been Henry Fonda’s daughter, no one on the planet would have cared what adolescent project she decided to pursue.
The Vietnam Wall? Way too long a story, but consider a few facts: How many other buried war memorials are there? How many are black? How many go out of their way to show the enormity of deaths, the futility of war? Not just in this country, but in ANY country? The names of specific American soldiers were designed to be difficultly located: unalphabetical, unserviced, unranked, unmedaled—just poor slobs who fought against their will and died in a futile and possibly dishonorable war. Who, one might ask, served on the selection committee for that particular “memorial”? Not a single soldier, active duty, retired, or veteran of any war. But lots of the artsy folks Jane (and other Hollywood types) regularly entertained. See http://articles.latimes.com/1993-10-17/entertainment/ca-46534_1_vietnam-veterans-memorial-washington-monument-vietnam-war/3.
The former Vietnam Veterans Against the War, in the meantime (i.e., between 1971 and 1982), magically became Vietnam Veterans of America while maintaining some of the old VVAW leadership. Jan Scruggs, president of and power behind the memorial fund, had been an antiwar activist and declared that the wall was “... a powerful and monumental work, and a weapon against future wars.” He, other antiwar vets (including Kerry), and Fonda made damn sure THEIR view of that war was what would be memorialized. Hart’s statue of three soldiers well off to the side of the “memorial” came later but not without argument from the selection committee which didn’t want to “relieve” the gravity of the wall itself.
Tom Wolfe (Right Stuff, Bonfire of the Vanities, etc.) wrote the best review of the wall which, for some reason, seems unavailable on the net (I could probably pay for a reprint at the Washington Post site); but here’s a hint.
From The Vietnam Wall Controversy, Round 4:
10/13/1982. Tom Wolfe leads anti-art charge.
“Art Disputes War: The Battle of the Vietnam Memorial,” by Tom Wolfe, Washington Post, 10/13/82: B3. “This is the story of art experts and the Vietnam veterans — and of how the veterans asked for a war memorial and wound up with an enormous pit they now refer to as a ‘tribute to Jane Fonda’ . . . . Shouldn’t public sculpture delight the public or inspire the public or at least remind the public of cherished traditions? Nonsense. Why reinforce the bourgeoisie’s pathetic illusions? . . . Veterans like Carhart and Webb were dumbfounded and then outraged. . . . Over the past two months art mullahs of every description have begun a holy war against the addition of the statue.” [SFX]
“Last Chance for the Memorial,” Washington Times, 10/13/82. “There is a discordance between the sophisticated wall and the unsophisticated statue. There is also disharmony between the nay-saying wall and the unequivocally proud flag. . . . And nothing has happened to make Maya Lin’s creation look less like what it suggests to some veterans and some non-combatant citizens: ‘an open grave.’” [SFX]
There’s SO much more—
Terse, as usual, IT. Thanks. Just yesterday I recommended your WS site for Fonda info. Hope something comes of it. (As I sit here, Jane’s TCM encomium on Dad is airing!)
I think we both know things that overlap and augment - I was strongly involved with the efforts to discover the activities of Jane Fonda and others around her and at one point was named as a witness for her prosecution for treason in 1972. The FBI had built the case, using her propaganda broadcasts from Hanoi as a centerpoint but the Justice Department never went forward. My experience with her was that she was intelligent and hard and focused and had no patience for idlers. She absolutely hated veterans and made that very clear all the time. She was nearly 100% involved with pro-enemy activities and also seemed old to me with short red hair, wrinkles around her mouth and eyes and she was chain-smoker.
On the other hand, Kerry struck me as a dullard and an opportunist. His big moment was when Hubbard was discovered to be lying about his "Vietnam service" (he was actually a flightline mechanic in the States) and he took over the VVAW. His statement to the Congressional Committee was rot based on his listening too much to the lying blowhards of the Winter Soldier event. He was and is a poseur and wouldn't know anything about infantry combat or our service in Vietnam. I spent many, many weekends campaigning against his presidential run, much to the amusement of my family.
I agree that the both of them should have been hanged. It stuns me that they have privileged and powerful positions and the American public has no clue to the enormity of their crimes.
By the way, that dang Women's statue at the Memorial really annoys me: it was put there to satisfy some powerful ladies' groups and it's lousy sculpture. It portrays a mythical event - I never saw any women in Vietnam forward of the main hospitals and dang few in them there. If they wanted to honor the people who saved the lives over there, it should have been statues of a Corpsman/medic, a doctor and a medevac pilot. I owe my life to them.
Brains of Steel
This same article was the subject of another thread yesterday. Those who have been reading the comments on this thread might want to check that one out, too.
See the thread at: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2752712/posts
I am posting here what I posted there:
Jane Fonda RARE BIO pt 8
In this clip, she is shown (at 4:18 in the video) seating herself at an anti-aircraft gun. See if it fits her recollection of what happened. (Somewhere, I saw her actually looking through the sight of one of these guns, but it doesnt show that here.)
This clip also has (starting at 6:04) testimony from a POW who talks about being tortured at the time Jane was visiting. See if that fits with her contention that torture had stopped 2-1/2 years before she got there.
We’re in complete agreement. And thank you for your activities in ‘72 and whatever year(s) you campaigned against JFK! I lost track, after the Wall was completed, of who was vying for what in the way of sculptures, but I’d bet that the feminist statue was the price for Hart’s (after all, the Left was still smarting from the defeat of the ERA). What was really, really ironic about the wall, however, is that it wasn’t even an original design. Hank Holzer, while he was writing Aid and Comfort, learned (I think he received a photo that his wife later verified in person) that the inspiration existed in a WWI memorial in southern France, albeit on a far smaller scale (approx. 4 x 6 ft.). Wish I could remember where I saw the designs that lost to Maya Lin’s because nearly every one of them ran circles around hers.
But, yes indeed, when it’s the only national memorial to Vietnam vets, it’s the only game in town. Thus mourners and patriots have given it the dignity and respect the design meant to suppress.
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