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Judge Delays Release of Casey Anthony Juror Names
The Orlando Sentinel ^ | July 27, 2011 | By Amy Pavuk and Anthony Colarossi

Posted on 07/27/2011 6:14:28 AM PDT by truthkeeper

ORLANDO, Fla. — The names of jurors who served during Casey Anthony’s first-degree murder trial will remain secret until October, according to a ruling Tuesday by Chief Judge Belvin Perry.

Ordinarily, juror names become public in Florida once a verdict is rendered.

Perry’s 12-page ruling said the names of 14 of the 17 jurors will remain private until Oct. 25. Several jurors already have stepped forward and spoken to the media, at least one under condition of anonymity.

In June, Perry entered an order barring the release of the jurors’ names "until further order of this court."

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Good morning to all.

This post will kick off our weekly Crime, Law, and Justice thread. I apologize for being late with it, I have been buried with work.

Looks like the Anthony jurors are off the hook for now and won't have their names revealed. I get the sense from the article that privacy issues in this regard may be examined as well. What say you all?

I will go and retrieve the ping list and see you later.

P.S. On a related note, our FReeper Palladin has recommended a John Grisham book, "The Runaway Jury." I will put it on my reading list. Open for discussion too.

1 posted on 07/27/2011 6:14:32 AM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: dfc1; miss marmelstein; Sarah Barracuda; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; ANKE69; indylindy; Marty62; nycgal; ..

Morning FRiends. Missed ya!


2 posted on 07/27/2011 6:15:16 AM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: truthkeeper

Welcome back!


3 posted on 07/27/2011 6:17:23 AM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on behalf of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: truthkeeper

I still think they’re all idiots.


4 posted on 07/27/2011 6:18:11 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: LottieDah
Hey girl.

I wonder if anyone else cringes whenever they see a Casey Anthony story on television now that Caylee was, IMO, denied justice? I almost can't turn the channel fast enough.

This article focuses on legal protocol so I got past my revulsion and posted it.

5 posted on 07/27/2011 6:21:09 AM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: truthkeeper

Casey Anthony makes me sick to my stomach. Justice for Caylee was truly denied. Casey Anthony will get hers.


6 posted on 07/27/2011 6:33:19 AM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on behalf of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: truthkeeper

Hi TK.

Maybe he should just release the names of the ones already out there in the media. Or ask individually if anyone objects to their name being released. Here’s hoping CA’s world has become the hell she inflicted on everyone that knew her.


7 posted on 07/27/2011 6:34:40 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: LottieDah; Marty62

At least one day she will have to answer to a higher authority, one who will NOT be fooled.


8 posted on 07/27/2011 6:36:03 AM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: Marty62

I did notice one of the alternate juror’s full name was revealed in the article. He mentioned that the jurors don’t want each other talking to the media.


9 posted on 07/27/2011 6:37:22 AM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: truthkeeper

Yay and Hello.

I think this is a good idea, at least a temporary hold, because of the fear. There are crazies out there.


10 posted on 07/27/2011 6:41:31 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: truthkeeper

Exactly. Unfortunately there are those of us on earth who want justice meted out now. Patience my pretties. It’s coming.


11 posted on 07/27/2011 6:42:25 AM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on behalf of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: truthkeeper

I don’t have a TV so I don’t have to worry about seeing Casey’s face but I’m still angry every time I think about it.


12 posted on 07/27/2011 6:43:01 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
Morning! I found these paragraphs interesting:

He (Judge Perry) specifically called for the state Legislature to consider whether an exemption "barring release of jurors’ names, albeit limited to specific, rare cases, is needed in order to protect the safety and well-being of those citizens willing to serve."

Court administration for the Ninth Circuit or the Pinellas County Clerk of Court may upon request release the names of the 14 seated jurors who have not already voluntarily released their names on or after Oct. 25, the order states.

13 posted on 07/27/2011 6:46:22 AM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: truthkeeper

First, I will say that I disagree with the jury. However, I truly don’t understand why it is necessary to publish the names of the jury. Why? I have served on juries before and felt comfortable in doing so. If I was going to be possibly selected for a high interest case or one involving murder, organized crime, etc... I would honestly say that I would not want to serve if my name was later published. I wouldn’t want my family brought into it and I would worry about their safety as well. Those staying within the pool of possible jurors either want the media attention/focus/etc... and this reduces the number of potential jurors IMHO. Just a thought.


14 posted on 07/27/2011 6:47:04 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: momtothree
Good morning.
Here is an interesting companion article on Florida's liberal freedom of information ("Sunshine") law. Apparently each state can decide for themselves. New York keeps their juror names confidential.
Sorry, I never learned to link so you've got to cut and past the article:

http://poststar.com/app/blogs/?p=69986&cat=

15 posted on 07/27/2011 6:51:21 AM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: truthkeeper

Thank you, truthkeeper! You’re a doll for the link.


16 posted on 07/27/2011 6:54:07 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: momtothree

No prob. I hope we can learn things here...I learned something today.


17 posted on 07/27/2011 6:56:14 AM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: LottieDah
Unfortunately there are those of us on earth who want justice meted out now.

I don't understand your comment. Are you saying you want vigilante punishment meted out to the jurors?

18 posted on 07/27/2011 6:59:15 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

No, not at all. I don’t believe in vigilantism. But I do understand that there are some do.


19 posted on 07/27/2011 7:01:45 AM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on behalf of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: truthkeeper

I disagree with the exemption, as it is difficult to prove to a legal standard that the jurors WOULD be harmed if their names were released at the later date, so a permanent exemption is not a good idea.


20 posted on 07/27/2011 7:04:26 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: truthkeeper

The reason the jurors names are released at all is for some accountability and to prevent jury tampering and misconduct. If someone when into a jury knowing that they would forever remain anonymous, that would be problematic at best for the system.

Early juries (Saxon) were comprised of well known people in the area who knew the offenders and could size people up quickly.


21 posted on 07/27/2011 7:07:09 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: LottieDah

But what kind of ‘justice’ do you want meted out to the jurors?

I can tell you if they release the names of the jurors I’ll never sit on a jury again.


22 posted on 07/27/2011 7:15:13 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: reaganaut
"Jury System Has Deep Roots:"

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=79894&page=1

23 posted on 07/27/2011 7:17:18 AM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: reaganaut
A little info on the Star Chamber:

http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Star_Chamber.aspx

24 posted on 07/27/2011 7:19:43 AM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: All
This is the law in California (in pertinent part):

CCP 237

237. (a) (1) The names of qualified jurors drawn from the qualified juror list for the superior court shall be made available to the public upon request unless the court determines that a compelling interest, as defined in subdivision (b), requires that this information should be kept confidential or its use limited in whole or in part.

(2) Upon the recording of a jury's verdict in a criminal jury proceeding, the court's record of personal juror identifying information of trial jurors, as defined in Section 194, consisting of names, addresses, and telephone numbers, shall be sealed until further order of the court as provided by this section.

(b) Any person may petition the court for access to these records. The petition shall be supported by a declaration that includes facts sufficient to establish good cause for the release of the juror's personal identifying information. The court shall set the matter for hearing if the petition and supporting declaration establish a prima facie showing of good cause for the release of the personal juror identifying information, but shall not set the matter for hearing if there is a showing on the record of facts that establish a compelling interest against disclosure. A compelling interest includes, but is not limited to, protecting jurors from threats or danger of physical harm. If the court does not set the matter for hearing, the court shall by minute order set forth the reasons and make express findings either of a lack of a prima facie showing of good cause or the presence of a compelling interest against disclosure.

25 posted on 07/27/2011 7:32:14 AM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: truthkeeper

There is only one reason people would want the names released. Vengeance.


26 posted on 07/27/2011 7:37:10 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: truthkeeper

I see nothing wrong with jurors having to face the wrath of the public over this.....not in a physical way. We the people should have a transparent justice system. Sunshine exposes flaws and failings of our system....hiding in the dark is where evil is, we don’t need that. I have no sympathy for the hapless jurors who imposed this travesty upon us.


27 posted on 07/27/2011 7:43:23 AM PDT by tioga
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To: ladyjane

I wish the jurors never get a good night sleep again. They should never be allowed to sit on a jury either.


28 posted on 07/27/2011 7:49:06 AM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on behalf of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: reaganaut

it is also for conviction cases.

in this case we have a not guilty, death threats, and violence (see court employee who was attacked)

even some of the comments here.


29 posted on 07/27/2011 8:37:06 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

I don’t have a problem with the delay. But I don’t think it should be permanent either, just long enough for cooler heads to prevail.


30 posted on 07/27/2011 8:43:41 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: ZX12R

Like I said before...the press already knows the names of all of them and can easily access the jurors in an attempt to get their stories regardless of this silly ban. In fact, that has already happened with several of these jurors.

These people can run but they cannot hide in this modern technological age. As an aside, my opinion of this judge drops daily. Choices have consequences and sooner or later these jurors will have to fully face the consequences of the choice they made. No Judge can protect them from reality.


31 posted on 07/27/2011 8:51:04 AM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: longtermmemmory

Where and when was a court employee attacked? I didn’t hear about that.


32 posted on 07/27/2011 8:52:17 AM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: An American In Dairyland

And the consequences are to have to face the Public they were serving and fully and rationally explain how they reached the verdict they did reach. IMO rationality had little to NO play in this verdict which is why these jurors are unable to VERBALLY face the public. IMO that is an excellent reason why these people should never have been placed on that jury or any other jury in the first place.


33 posted on 07/27/2011 8:55:49 AM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: CynicalBear
There is only one reason people would want the names released. Vengeance.

I want them released so I can send them all their "I AM ONE OF THOSE IDIOTS" tee shirts.
34 posted on 07/27/2011 9:03:01 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: ZX12R

“I sat on the Casey Anthony jury and all I got was this lousy t-shirt.”


35 posted on 07/27/2011 9:04:47 AM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: ZX12R

Like I said. Vengeance.


36 posted on 07/27/2011 9:16:14 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear
Like I said. Vengeance.

I'll have an extra one printed for you.
37 posted on 07/27/2011 9:20:03 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: truthkeeper
He (Judge Perry) specifically called for the state Legislature to consider whether an exemption "barring release of jurors’ names, albeit limited to specific, rare cases, is needed in order to protect the safety and well-being of those citizens willing to serve."

Maybe the state legislature would vote to withold jurors' names in an organized crime case, but in this type of situation, it's not going to happen.

The jurors in cases like this will have to live with their verdict.

38 posted on 07/27/2011 10:07:10 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: truthkeeper

Thanks for the update, truthkeeper. I’ve missed all you guys. Despite the horrible crime it was so nice to get to know you all.

Maybe it’s good to hold off the jurors’ names until this thing cools off.

Did you hear that one of the networks will not interview Anthony unless she takes a polygraph test? Which got me thinking - was she ever given one in the first place? Of course, given her lying capacity combined with her complete lack of conscience, she’d probably pass it.


39 posted on 07/27/2011 10:18:15 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Casey Anthony is guilty as hell)
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To: miss marmelstein

polygraphs are a joke. about as valid as phrenology


40 posted on 07/27/2011 10:20:39 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: miss marmelstein

polygraphs are a joke. about as valid as phrenology


41 posted on 07/27/2011 10:20:43 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: LottieDah

I agree.


42 posted on 07/27/2011 1:56:43 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: LottieDah; truthkeeper

I believe the jurors as demonstated by their vote of not guilty were only thinking about one side of the issue; therefore probably didn’t realize the backlash they were creating. Because of their inability to think and/or use common sense; they did not realize there would be consequences to their actions.


43 posted on 07/27/2011 2:53:53 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

Some of these jurors probably watch all the tv crime shows and think they are experts on interpreting evidence. Sure the Prosecution screwed up but it does not explain away how Caylee was missing for a month before it was reported to the police and found with with duct tape on her nose and mouth. Didn’t they bother to ask what happened? Who did this?


44 posted on 07/27/2011 2:58:08 PM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on behalf of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: LottieDah

I know. That duct tape and missing for 31 days is pretty hard to explain; especially when the mother has admitted her daughter has been missing for 31 days. It’s a pretty good bet Casey did this since she is the one who had access to her daughter.


45 posted on 07/27/2011 3:03:43 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: LottieDah; freekitty
Based on what I have heard the three jurors who spoke say, I feel they were incurious, lacking in common sense, and just plain lazy thinkers.

I immediately wonder about the intelligence of people who say they never follow the news and know nothing about cases that have been reported on for months or even years. Is it actually desirable to have people this dumb on juries?

A sad state of affairs, IMO.

46 posted on 07/27/2011 3:32:37 PM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: freekitty

It’s more than a good bet, it’s a slam dunk. The defense theory put forth without any evidence, makes zero sense. Why hide an accident? Why would slutmom DELETE her incriminating searches for neck breaking, etc? Why would she have claimed to have spoken to her daughter shortly before the 911 call? Why obstruct the police? Why was Larry Mokirlyjo put in charge of the jury? Why was the woman juror who did come forward twice held back from second grade? OK I made that last one up. There was no evidence she was held back from second grade a second time.

What would be wrong with states, or maybe even localities, requiring potential jurors to take a minimum competency test? They would still be a jury of peers in that slutmom was a cunning liar.


47 posted on 07/27/2011 3:50:42 PM PDT by at bay ("We were all in agreeance of that."--slutmom jury foreman, Larry Mokirlyjo)
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To: at bay

Competency test? Not a good idea. You can cure ignorance; but not stupid.


48 posted on 07/27/2011 4:04:36 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: truthkeeper

Yes it is a sad state of affairs. I am sure some if not all heard about this case way before they became jurors; especially Ms. Goldilocks(Juror 3). This kind of person was what the defense was looking for and they got it in spades. I am curious as to why the judge kept allowing them to be on the jury. The prosecution from what I understand did everything they could to keep at least some of them off. They were definitely not a well balanced jury. I am also curious as to understand why at least one did not protest.


49 posted on 07/27/2011 4:10:03 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: truthkeeper

It also bothers me that there was a mock jury and they came up with the same results.


50 posted on 07/27/2011 4:10:53 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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