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The no-kids-allowed movement is spreading
Shine via Yahoo! ^ | Wednesday, July 27, 2011 | Piper Weiss

Posted on 07/27/2011 12:00:44 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows

What's the matter with kids today and why doesn't anyone want them around? In June, Malaysia Airlines banned babies from many of their first class cabins, prompting other major airlines to consider similar policies.


Earlier this month, McDain's, a Pittsburgh area restaurant that banned kids under 6 became a mascot for the no-kids-zone movement.

According to a Pittsburgh local news poll, more than half of area residents were in favor of the ban. And now big business is paying attention.

"Brat bans could well be the next frontier in destination and leisure-product marketing," writes Robert Klara in an article on the child-free trend in AdWeek.

Klara points to, a travel website for kid-free vacations, with a massive list of yoga retreats, luxury resorts and bargain hotels around the world that ban children.

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TOPICS: Food; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: childrearing; children; kids; napl; parenting
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81 posted on 07/27/2011 1:04:00 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: reformedliberal

I am 25 years old and it sounds like I was raised in a similar fashion. My mom carried a wooden spoon in her purse at all times while we were still younger. She wouldn’t hesitate to pop us a couple of times with the spoon were we to step out of line. My dad would just give us that look that meant, “Keep it up and your backside will have a meeting with my belt when we get home.” He followed through on those threats. My brother has ADHD, or something similar, and I guess that was the overriding factor when it came to his behavior as a kid. They could spank him all they wanted and he never seemed to adjust his behavior. I guess my parents just decided it was best to stay home and let him mature a little. It seemed to have worked.

82 posted on 07/27/2011 1:04:11 PM PDT by camerongood210
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To: Slings and Arrows

Baby Boomers are reaching retirement age en-masse. This is the most selfish generation the USA has seen (my generation). Everything has always been about them. Now that they are empty-nesters and leisure retirees, it is all about them once again. Sure, they are joined by another selfish generation - the Gen-X Dinks, but really this is an issue of the Baby Boomers.

Selfish to the core. It is always ALWAYS only about them. Give me. Mine. Me, me, me, me, me.

Selfish pukes.

83 posted on 07/27/2011 1:05:41 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (SP12: They called Reagan "unelectable", too.)
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To: CodeToad
Children need to be socialized in order to learn to be social.

That is the purpose of McDonalds. I used it as a first step restaurant training ground for my kids. When they could behave there, they went to sit-down places like Friendly's and the local diner.

From there, they were ready for the big time, nice restaurants.

84 posted on 07/27/2011 1:07:43 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Fear = peace

85 posted on 07/27/2011 1:08:05 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: Hoffer Rand


86 posted on 07/27/2011 1:08:27 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: AlmaKing

How old are you?
Cause let me tell you, parents were much better behaved when I was a kid. Because there was such a thing as shame. People had it.

Now, if someone told a person that his/her kids was misbehaving, that person would feel “disrespected” and go off on you.

Your own parents and grandparents are not everywhere in the country and maybe in their world, parents and kids haven’t changed, but they sure have in mine.

87 posted on 07/27/2011 1:09:27 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: netmilsmom

>>OMG! Have you asked the mom how long she plans to wipe his butt?<<

We have learned not to go there. Just meddling gandparents, you know.

88 posted on 07/27/2011 1:12:08 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free; Carry_Okie

>>This is the most selfish generation the USA has seen (my generation).<<

Bull. Who do you think made them that way? The Greatest Generation. The ones who voted in the massive entitlements that WE now have to pay for.

How about those Free Power Chairs?

89 posted on 07/27/2011 1:14:19 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: metmom
I really don't have any problem with a restaurant, movie theater, store or whatever banning kids. Most of the restaurants I eat in aren't really "kid friendly" to start with, but there have been times where the meal was ruined by a screaming child.

I don't think that airlines should be able to ban children altogether, but I certainly see the appeal of keeping them out of first class and business class.

90 posted on 07/27/2011 1:20:04 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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These “parents” of unruly and out of control children have no choice they expose the rest of adults with the fruit of their loins.

No one, no one will provide baby setting for these little thugs who destroy every thing near them.

The number of us who want to attend, eat, relax sould not have to put up the Doctor Spock imbreds who became old enough to reproduce!

91 posted on 07/27/2011 1:20:50 PM PDT by tiger63
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To: netmilsmom

My point was that the wrong people are having the most kids, as reinforced by your post. Too many with money, education and discipline are choosing to remain childless.

92 posted on 07/27/2011 1:23:22 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: RobRoy

My nephew in law “needed” his butt wiped until age 7. Now he’s 26 and a complete loser, no job, no desire for a job, never does anything to help around. The later they learn to wipe their own butt literally the longer it takes them to figure it out metaphorically.

93 posted on 07/27/2011 1:26:02 PM PDT by discostu (keep on keeping on)
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To: jdub

“.. don’t want to worry about what is in the pool water”.

It’s in there! You don’t think adults actually go and tinkle in the restroom, do you? LOL!

94 posted on 07/27/2011 1:28:43 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: married21

It’s not the mere presence of children, it’s the presence of hellions whose parents think their parental duty stopped at conception. They’re so prevalent now all kids are assumed guilty until they prove themselves innocent. And they can’t really be dealt with on an ad hoc basis, a restaurant isn’t going to kick people out after they’ve gotten their food and before they’ve paid, stores don’t have the staff to escort every PITA out. How we’ve wound up “dealing” with them is putting up with it and trying to end it quickly, sadly the parents of hellions probably get better service everywhere they go because the businesses want them out. So now there’s a new “deal”, and it sucks for good parents, but it also sucks for the aspirin companies because the rest of us won’t be using as much.

95 posted on 07/27/2011 1:30:17 PM PDT by discostu (keep on keeping on)
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96 posted on 07/27/2011 1:30:32 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: allmendream

Well behaved children are almost never a problem.

And that is the crux of the matter. Too few parents today take the time to teach their children how to behave.

97 posted on 07/27/2011 1:30:54 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: netmilsmom

“My husband was a good one for giving in to our oldest daughter”.

Yep... the little princess syndrome. Daddy doesn’t want his darling daughter upset with him. Good for you for taking over... what occurs when they are little and not disciplined will only turn worse when they get older. Nip it in the bud when little or pick them up at the police station when they are teens. I, too, have become the “mean Mommy”. I tell them to discuss it with their therapist when they are older. LOL!

98 posted on 07/27/2011 1:32:35 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: Bigg Red
I see parents scrambling to appease a two year old tyrant, will THIS offering please the little one, will THIS concession at last make the child happy?

They live in a “Cryocracy”. It is rather pitiful to see.

Some friends of my dad asked how it was that my brother and I (notoriously bad kids) listened to him and were (comparatively) well behaved. He said “I laugh at them when they cry and don't give them what they want.”.

They said they would give it a try - but after 10 minutes of crying in the car because they wouldn't stop at McDonald's - they gave in. My dad observed “next time you will have to go 20 minutes at least - they know your breaking point.”

They never did train the child. The child trained them.

Pitiful parenting.

99 posted on 07/27/2011 1:37:07 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Allegra; Bigh4u2

Interesting - in neither bio does it actually say that she’s a parent.


100 posted on 07/27/2011 1:37:11 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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