Reindeer Herder Finds Baby Mammoth in Russia Arctic

Reuters ^ | Aug 19, 2011 | Alissa de Carbonnel

[FrogMom]

A reindeer herder in Russia's Arctic has stumbled on the pre-historic remains of a baby woolly mammoth poking out of the permafrost, local officials said on Friday.

[djf]

And a lot of those foods were temperate-climate plants.

Not stuff that might grow at the sub-zero temps it would take to freeze a mammoth whole.

If you had an animal that big, and you decided to freeze it on purpose, we’re talking about 20F-30F degrees below zero for an extended period. Perhaps up to a week or so.

Certainly not overnight or in 2 or 3 days...

[bigheadfred]

Baby Mammoth

Cool! A new oxymoron.

Sorta kinda new, I guess. Instead of the moron O Boy calling Moochelle baby mama, he calls her ...

[djf]

True. But most humans are quite a bit less mass than a mammoth. And the physiology of humans (the fact that their limbs are almost as long as their torso) makes it much easier to freeze.

[AGreatPer]

"Giant woolly mammoths have been extinct since the Earth's last Ice Age 1.8 million to around 11,500 years ago."

Ahhhh, that narrows it down quite a bit, give or take a million years.

[Larry381]

There have been quite a few frozen mammoths found in the last hundred years. Alexander Solzhenitsyn remarks about how a group of Russian prisoners in one of the Artic death camps came across a fully grown Mammoth while they were digging for gold in the Kolyma in the 30’s. They immediately dug it up and ate it.

[Figment]

“The people who found them were Zeks so they butchered, cooked and ate the animals. Probably the only meat they’d had in years”

That happened on “Northern Exposure” back in the early nineties. Walt said it was better than the best aged beef

[Lockbar]

The guy should put it up on a internet auction. He would get maybe $500K or more. But the Russian government will move in say they need it, its “too dangerous” for one person to have around. “Here Mr. “Dummy”, we will take care of that for you”. Wink, Wink. The money will flow to Moscow.

[Flag_This]

"There are frozen (or freeze-dried) corpses of climbers all over Mt. Everest, like that of Mallory who disappeared in 1924 and was found well-preserved in 1999."

Yeah, but those guys are at 25,000 ft. These mammoths were minding their own business, eating their greens and were then apparently flash-frozen for 10,000 years.

[ApplegateRanch]

How did these things freeze before they rotted or were devoured by something?

The Atlantean wizards sucked all the energy out of the Far North, in an attempt to channel it to save Atlantis. Tragically, they underestimated amount of energy involved, and the power backlash not only destroyed Atlantis anyway, but it also left the Far North a frigid wasteland with all the animals flash frozen in place.

So much energy was unleashed in an unbalanced and catastrophic fashion that it even knocked the earth's axis 22.5 degrees off-vertical and misaligned magnetic & true north forever after. The North Atlantic Ridge & African Rift Valleys have been unstable and spreading ever since.

[djf]

I’m waiting for them to find a female.

A female with freeze-dried ovaries... and viable eggs!

[muawiyah]

My understanding is the risk is in eating meat that’s been frozen and thawed many times over the ages.

[DJlaysitup]

"Giant woolly mammoths have been extinct since the Earth's last Ice Age 1.8 million to around 11,500 years ago." Ahhhh, that narrows it down quite a bit, give or take a million years.

LOL!! Reminds me of when I used to talk prices/money with my ex-wife. She would round her numbers off by like 20%. She would round my number up 20% and round hers down 20% and act like it was just the same total...if I could get the same item at one place for $80.00 and she decided to buy the same exact thing at another place for $120.00 she would use that logic and say "same difference"....drove me CRAZY.

P.S. - she is an accountant for a non-profit.

[decimon]

Thanks.

Don’t you wish you could be a reindeer herder in the Arctic?

[Beowulf9]

I don’t understand how they know it’s a mammoth and not an elephant. Looks just like an elephant to me, (not doubting it, just wondering).

[tarheelswamprat]

They, and a whole lot of other things up there, were frozen so quickly that food in their mouths was still fresh.

One speculation is sudden massive pole-shift of the Earth on it's rotational axis.(physical shift, not magnetic). Think of the Earth as a spinning, precessing top in space. For whatever reason, perhaps a near-miss by a passing asteroid, e.g., it's rotational axis is altered and regions formerly temperate are suddenly shifted much farther "North" in a matter of only a few hours.

Such a cataclysmic movement would probably also result in massive wind storms (hundred's of MPH) as the Earth's atmosphere "slides around" to catch up with the land movement. For the new northern regions these winds might also contribute to rapid, "freeze-dry" type cooling.

Lot's of stuff on the net and in books about cataclysmic earth changes, e.g. Velikovsky, and others.

[wildbill]

I bet the chef at that exotic banquet your great-uncle attended was the famous Larry London.

[Fred Nerks]

The year 1901 provided a unique opportunity to make a first-hand scientific study of a mammoth that had then recently been exposed on the banks of the Beresovka River in northeastern Siberia and sixty miles inside the Arctic Circle (Digby 1926; Billow 1981; Pfizenmayer 1939; Sanderson 1960).[22] The mammoth was found frozen in a sitting position in what is technically referred to as muck and located in the middle of an ancient landslide. The flesh and even the eyeballs were so well preserved that the expedition's sled dogs had plenty of fresh meat to eat. Death must have come to this specimen very quickly, because the blood still contained some oxygen and was preserved sufficiently well to establish the relationship to the blood of today's Indian elephant, although distinct anatomical differences would not necessarily classify them as the same species. There was well-preserved food in the mouth and twenty-four pounds of undissolved and identifiable plants in the stomach. One interesting and unexpected feature reported by Herz (1904, 623) was an erect male genital.

[AGreatPer]

That is funny with the ex. Never had one of those, don't want one.

[CynicalBear]

Ping for tomorrow

[djf]

Ahh, yes.

Alan Eckert. The HAB Theory

I have it and have read it a few times, but not recently. At one point in the book, scientists worldwide table a conference to discuss the pros and cons of the theory, and the corroborating evidence.

Those chapters contain a great deal of scientific fact - much of it still unexplained.