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San Diego boy throwing rocks hit by crossbow bolt
Associated Press ^ | August 30, 2011

Posted on 08/30/2011 12:32:28 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

SAN DIEGO (AP) -- San Diego police say a boy throwing rocks at vehicles was struck in the abdomen by a crossbow bolt fired by a passenger in small sport utility vehicle.

Officer Dino Delimitros says the boy and a friend were throwing rocks in the Linda Vista neighborhood Monday afternoon when a passenger in a black Toyota RAV4 pulled out a crossbow and fired.

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To: Da Bilge Troll

Wow. I am very glad to hear you survived. That is attempted murder.


51 posted on 08/30/2011 1:20:58 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: Ronin
In two words, “Whisper loads.” Low noise and velocity, but still deadly.

Small caliber for pest control, larger calibers and very heavy bullets for the larger perps, uh pests. .45 caliber and a 500+ grain cast bullet at just a few 100 fps, (feet per second) is akin to getting hit with a freight train.

http://www.google.com/#pq=obama’s+brother++is+on+the+no-fly+list&hl=en&cp=13&gs_id=7t&xhr=t&q=whisper+loads&pf=p&sclient=psy&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=whisper+loads&aq=0v&aqi=g-v1g-m2&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=a1264650e6ec0d2d&biw=960&bih=459

52 posted on 08/30/2011 1:21:43 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: BigFinn

Actually, now that I’ve heard about the crossbow bolt thing,
HELL YES!

I think it was brilliant to do on the part of the motorist!


53 posted on 08/30/2011 1:22:15 PM PDT by marychesnutfan
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To: Peter from Rutland

Ya beat me to it.


54 posted on 08/30/2011 1:23:29 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Depends on the size of the bolt, the size of the crossbow, and the tension configuration. I’ve seen tiny handheld crossbows that couldn’t pierce a chicken thigh, but of course could still kill you if the bolt was poisoned.


55 posted on 08/30/2011 1:23:31 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Basil Duke

Same thing happened in Douglas County Georgia back in the early 90’s.

They convicted the little twerp and when everyone thought he was still in prison he gets arrested again for pointing a gun at someone!


56 posted on 08/30/2011 1:23:45 PM PDT by snuffy smiff (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.)
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To: BigFinn
Kids always through rocks. I did ... now don’t lie.. of course you did.

BS!!! Hell, even when it came to snowballs they were limited to the body of trucks, not the cab and NEVER at a car or bus.

57 posted on 08/30/2011 1:24:32 PM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Linda Vista neighborhood?

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050528/news_1n28rocks.html


58 posted on 08/30/2011 1:25:23 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: ClearCase_guy

Maybe a target bolt not the one with razor blades.


59 posted on 08/30/2011 1:27:04 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: marychesnutfan

You series-ly need some counseling. OK.. let me ask you this. If your child, 16 years old and let’s say, he’s a bit of a mindless teenager looking for some excitement, threw rocks at a car and someone hit him with a crossbow or maybe even shot him with a gun ... that you would think that was just fine? What if they killed your child? Would you cheer on the shooter. If you say yes... you should make a double appointment for some series-ous counseling.


60 posted on 08/30/2011 1:33:26 PM PDT by BigFinn (BigHat wisdom: Always drink upstream from the herd.)
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To: Da Bilge Troll
Having once had a rock dropped from an overpass hit my windshield at 60+ MPH, I can attest that the child was committing attempted murder. Deadly force in response is therefore fully justified.

I-43 north of downtown Milwaukee has a "pedestrian" overpass. The DOT backed the chain-link fence with a smaller mesh fencing to prevent attacks as you describe. The local porch monkeys, not stymied by the fine mesh, took to hauling buckets of sand on to the bridge. They waited for a motorcycle to pass then dumped their sand as it passed under them. There were several serious injury accidents. Don't know if the little miscreants were ever caught but the attacks went away after awhile.

Regards,
GtG

61 posted on 08/30/2011 1:36:07 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: dangerdoc

I think you mean broadheads. They are great on wild pigs and javelina, which are very tasty. One of the commenters was wondering why both punks weren’t hit with bolts. He obviously doesn’t have a crossbow. They take more than a few seconds to reload. I live in a big midwestern city and have used them on rats, squirrels, crows and pigeons with great success.


62 posted on 08/30/2011 1:42:55 PM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: BigFinn; marychesnutfan
Would you shoot the kid because he threw a rock at your car?

When I was a kid, I never, never, never--even on my baddest, angry-at-life day--would have thrown a rock at a car under any circumstances, and certainly not from an overpass where it could easily kill people.

What kind of useless psycho kid would do something like that? (And I don't care how abused a childhood he might be having. No justification for such behavior.)

63 posted on 08/30/2011 1:43:23 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Free ThinkerNY

These two little Ernest T Bass Rockchucker inductees are lucky they only got shot an not moved out of the way in a more aggressive an simple manner. Bugs wash right off these bumpers.....

http://www.buckstop.biz/Images/dodge/03/4_6_inchlights_front_l.jpg

Stay Safe....


64 posted on 08/30/2011 1:43:30 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: BigFinn
When someone uses a deadly weapon they are not acting as a child, they have crossed the line into responsibility and consequences. If they don't know right from wrong why is that? What if the kid threw rocks at another kid, does the victim have a right to defend himself? Throwing rocks at a moving vehicle is a felony. Its not a prank or mischievous mischief, throwing raw eggs at a parked car might qualify for that.
65 posted on 08/30/2011 1:43:56 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Grunthor

Should be the lesson everywhere...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyJSyuW4Ez8&feature=related


66 posted on 08/30/2011 1:44:40 PM PDT by RabidBartender (The above statement is not meant to be offensive to women. Please don't whine and have me banned.)
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To: dila813
Makes me wonder what they were doing driving around with a cross-bow in their front seat to begin with. Hunting?

Crossbows are the preferred weapon of choice when hunting zombies.

67 posted on 08/30/2011 1:45:08 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: ccmay
That’s exactly the same way I was cured of the habit of throwing snowballs at cars at the age of 13 or so.

at the same age or younger, we were out en force just after a storm. Several of us scored fastball direct hits. As the driver jumped out, one of our crew threw a sky ball. The guy was in his third sentence of screaming at us when thump - the sky ball hit in the middle of the windshield. We laughed until we cried, then cried some more when the guy found our parents. No matter what we said, we just could not convince anybody the the sky ball was thrown before the guy got out. That was the end of my throwing stuff at cars career.

68 posted on 08/30/2011 1:45:49 PM PDT by frithguild (We admitted we were powerless over government - that out lives had become unmanageable)
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To: Meet the New Boss

It takes a bit of time to reload a crossbow so getting two shots off, crapping one’s pants (I can’t believe I hit the little f*****!) after the first one, would have been tricky. Should have used a long bow.


69 posted on 08/30/2011 1:47:49 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Basil Duke

I remember reading of a case some years ago in San Diego, near where this incident happened, of someone driving on I-805 at 2 a.m. when someone threw a large rock from an overpass which went through his windshield—the driver survived but his wife sitting on the passenger side was killed.


70 posted on 08/30/2011 1:48:38 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: ClearCase_guy

It is tough to find mithril these days. Too many Balrogs in the deep mines.


71 posted on 08/30/2011 1:49:43 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: rolling_stone

This sounds like the incident I was referring to in my post #70.


72 posted on 08/30/2011 1:51:43 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Hell yea

That’s what I need

A good freaking zombie slaughtefest!


73 posted on 08/30/2011 1:54:41 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Meet the New Boss

A crossbow of the full sized variety would be next to impossible to cock for a second shot while sitting inside a car.


74 posted on 08/30/2011 1:56:00 PM PDT by bullcricker
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To: Meet the New Boss

A crossbow of the full sized variety would be next to impossible to cock for a second shot while sitting inside a car.


75 posted on 08/30/2011 1:59:02 PM PDT by bullcricker
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To: ClearCase_guy

No, it was an Arrow shirt.


76 posted on 08/30/2011 2:00:34 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: rolling_stone

Of course they need to be punished. If they harm someone else by throwing a rock at a moving car... then they should be punished by the full force of the law. I’m just saying that it is not up to you to crossbow a kid. That is totally wrong and you know it. And the fact that people think it is OK to do so hackled my backside. I know the Linda Vista neighborhood. I grew up close by. It is not the best place to raise a kid. And there is absolutely no excuse for this kid doing this. I’m not defending his actions by any means. I’m just appalled that some think that crossbowing some kid is appropriate behavior. Over and out.


77 posted on 08/30/2011 2:04:24 PM PDT by BigFinn (BigHat wisdom: Always drink upstream from the herd.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“No one was arrested”......I love a happy ending!


78 posted on 08/30/2011 2:05:50 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: GraceG

A 16 year old throwing rocks at speeding cars isn’t a brat; it is a criminal.


79 posted on 08/30/2011 2:07:35 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Basil Duke

A woman was killed near the DC area, as well, some years ago when a rock was dropped onto her car from an overpass.


80 posted on 08/30/2011 2:29:50 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: JennysCool

It was a bolt of smarten up he got at a young age which might help him survive until old age. I am glad he and his pal survived their misadventure.


81 posted on 08/30/2011 2:47:00 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Bigg Red
In the early 80s, some freak dropped a football-sized rock from an overpass about 10 miles south of Salem, Oregon onto a car on Interstate 5. It crashed through the windshield and struck a 12 year old girl who was sitting in the back seat.

Her father rushed her to the nearest hospital where doctors saved her life. Later she underwent a series of painful operations to put her face back into something resembling normal.

As far as I know the police never found the perp but it wasn't through lack of trying... everyone in the area wanted his blood. He should have been whipped to death for what he did.

82 posted on 08/30/2011 2:47:10 PM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Basil Duke

Yep, I remember right there by Forest Park.

As far as the crossbow, that’s not what I would have resorted to. It’s still an assault first degree and not worth a lifetime of prison over.

Having said that, I would relish the look on the kids face when I pulled the badge and bracelets out.


83 posted on 08/30/2011 5:54:46 PM PDT by Molon Labbie
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To: Ronin
I own one of those handheld crossbows. They cost about $20.

You can hit gallon milk jug at about 20 yards. Penetration is iffy (one bolt will go through a 1/4 plywood and the next bolt bounce off), because the bolts are not that stable.

It is a lot of fun to shoot.

The only downside is that it takes two people to string the bow (50Lb pull and the bow is less than 15 inches long)

84 posted on 08/30/2011 6:44:49 PM PDT by fini
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To: GraceG
If someone had pulled over and spanked this little brat

Actually the little brat was 16 years old. Very lucky not to get a double tap.
85 posted on 08/30/2011 6:51:29 PM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/XX12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: BigFinn

YOU may have thrown rocks at cars going 60+ mph on the highway, but don’t attempt to assign that experience to other posters here.

Most people here were raised well enough to understand that throwing rocks at cars could easily cause the death of the driver (or any passengers in the vehicle.)


86 posted on 08/30/2011 9:27:28 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Good shoot.

Seriously. It seems like a lot of folks here are conflicted by this one, or at least have to caveat their support. It sounds like someone got a wakeup call. Hopefully he will heed it.

When I was a brain-dead youth, it never occurred to me to throw rocks at cars BUT my farm buds and I used to play an even more dangerous game. We'd sneak out late at night with a million candle-power spotlight and set up to the side of a blind curve or hilltop crossroads. When a car would come we'd pop up from cover and spot the driver right in the eyes. We had a good laugh when they'd scream and cuss and swerve all over the place. Then we'd move to a different spot and do it again.

By grace of God alone, none of our victims wrecked out. There were a couple near-misses, though.

This got to be a habit with us. So much so that we went out one night after a blizzard. The road was down to one lane. The first guy we "zapped" ran off into a snowbank. We thought it was great fun until he popped out with a rifle and drew down on us. We ditched the light and took off running like mad. I don't know if he fired (he was surely blind as a bat at that moment anyway). We were crashing through brush and making a massive racket. We broke into an open field and kept running. In our haste we forgot there was a fence ahead and we both hit it running flat-out. The next day we had a lot of 'splaining to do: what happened to dad's light and why were we both limping and what the heck gave us those cuts and bruises?? I don't recall the cock-and-bull story we spun, but we NEVER even discussed doing that stunt again. Looking back, I think we got off really light.

87 posted on 08/31/2011 3:57:09 AM PDT by jboot
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Custer wore an Arrow shirt at the battle of Little Big Horn.
;)


88 posted on 08/31/2011 9:23:01 PM PDT by Redcitizen (Transmute lead into gold-- buy ammunition.)
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To: jboot

There is room for conflict.
On the one hand, this is a deadly assault.
On the other, once you stop your car, it is unlikely the perp can lob another one far enough, and any follow up assault is likely not to constitute deadly force. So the threat is essentially over.
This makes firing at them, or running up the hill and beating the snot out of them more like retaliation than defense. Now, the latter needs to occur, to keep them from assaulting someone else, and in some states, you are justified in using deadly force to prevent a felony or defend someone else from using deadly force - but it would be a hard argument unless you can show that you waited for them to try to drop it on someone else before dropping them.

Now shooting from a bridge is another story altogether.


89 posted on 09/01/2011 2:43:47 PM PDT by Apogee
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To: Apogee

Also, note that at least one iteration of the story does not sound as though the shooter turned and fired in reaction, but perhaps chased the thrower down later.
Of course, he is not around to tell his side of the story, and the “kid” has a vested interest in telling his.


90 posted on 09/01/2011 3:27:56 PM PDT by Apogee
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To: BigFinn

See post 40.


91 posted on 09/01/2011 3:33:20 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Is such a shooting legal self-defense anyplace?


92 posted on 09/01/2011 3:35:10 PM PDT by bvw
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To: BigFinn; marychesnutfan
No lib here buddy... just some common sense. Would you shoot the kid because he threw a rock at your car?

I personally wouldn't. However, if I had kids or a wife, and someone threw a rock at my vehicle when I am driving, that person had better run very very fast because, to me, that person just attempted serious harm. I saw some guys some months back driving on the wrong side of the road for fun ending up hitting an oncoming car. If it was my car, and I had my family in it, that person is dead unless they can (very quickly) tell me why they were doing that (acceptable responses include rushing someone to hospital etc - silence or 'just for fun' are not acceptable). Same thing about rocks - if I catch the person I will have the presence of mind (for a few short seconds) to ask him why he was throwing rocks at my car. The answer better be good and quick. Oh, and I do not consider a 16 year old a kid.

93 posted on 09/05/2011 5:10:11 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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