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The truth about Palin in 2012 and an "unconventional campaign". (If she runs, she will win)

Posted on 09/25/2011 9:31:38 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative

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1 posted on 09/25/2011 9:31:42 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Give it up. Someone will sue the campaign and she will quit.


2 posted on 09/25/2011 9:35:25 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Sue what campaign ?

LOL.. that would be like trying to pick up mercury in a lab with a pair of chop sticks ?


3 posted on 09/25/2011 9:37:48 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Give it up.

Sounds like bully verbiage BLL...aren't you above that?

4 posted on 09/25/2011 9:38:27 PM PDT by caww
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Now she can afford more lawyers than God.

Anybody who sues her is going to get sued back.

A little Sun Tzu goes a long way.

What peabrains like you don't realize is that she has defined the battlefield instead of state-controlled media.

5 posted on 09/25/2011 9:39:43 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Looks like you are so far behind liberal lines you started playing for the other team if that comment is any indication.


6 posted on 09/25/2011 9:42:21 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Now Perry supporters are disowning him. Only Ron Paul supporters are still around.


7 posted on 09/25/2011 9:46:11 PM PDT by jennychase
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

If she’s built up a crack guerrilla organization, I hope she uses it to help out whoever the GOP nominee is going to be.


8 posted on 09/25/2011 9:47:15 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

...but it won’t be of much use to her or anybody if after most of the straw polls if all they can do is troll conservative web boards.


9 posted on 09/25/2011 9:49:05 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: jennychase

Yeah, I suppose those candidates are getting past their expiration date.


10 posted on 09/25/2011 9:50:31 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

So please explain to us, who are not as enlightened as you are, why she didn’t announce yet and when do you think she will announce? Will she announce on Nov. 7, 2012 and expect the real winner to just hand her the White House?


11 posted on 09/25/2011 9:50:31 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: yup2394871293

If you want a revolution, you first have to evolve.


12 posted on 09/25/2011 9:52:05 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: jennychase
I like how Paul keeps going like the energizer bunny, or is it the Tories and the hare?
13 posted on 09/25/2011 9:52:35 PM PDT by de.rm ('Most people never believe anything you tell them unless it isn't true."-Groucho Marx)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

And how do you explain that with all those supporters, 3/4 of Republicans don’t want her to run?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/21/poll-palin-making-gains-but-most-in-gop-dont-want-her-to-run/

“most Republicans are not enthusiastic about her launching a bid for the nomination. By a 72 to 24 percent margin, Republicans and independents who lean toward the GOP do not want Palin to run for the White House.”


14 posted on 09/25/2011 9:52:51 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

That was so profound, I didn’t get it.


15 posted on 09/25/2011 9:54:23 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

She will scare the Bampster so bad he will go back to the crack pipe again.


16 posted on 09/25/2011 9:55:32 PM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: Clairity

Let these guys beat up on each other in these debates. My gut feeling is that if she is going to get in, it will be soon enough to enter but later enough to surprise.


17 posted on 09/25/2011 9:55:49 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: Clairity

Maybe because 3/4 of Republicans have already attached their cart to another horse? A Romney supporter or a Gingrich supporter or a Bachman supporter might say “no” when asked if they want Palin to run. Is that so hard to understand? The key question is not “do you want her to run?” The key question is “if she runs, and she wins the nomination, will you vote for her?” I would bet that 90% or more of Republicans would say yes, if they were being honest. The difference between her and everyone else, including Obama, is that the people who support her are ready to crawl across hot coals to do it. Nobody has the support intensity that she does. The libs know it, and that’s why she terrifies them so badly.


18 posted on 09/25/2011 9:57:15 PM PDT by RightFighter (Now back to my war station.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

She’ll announce in 2012, probably on All Saints Day.


19 posted on 09/25/2011 10:00:45 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Clairity

13 Nov 1979 Ronald Reagan Announces Candidacy for President of the United States


20 posted on 09/25/2011 10:01:19 PM PDT by Ingtar (I closed my eyes, only for a moment, and the moment's gone...)
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To: Clairity

While I don’t think the polls are a fraud

I think the context is bogus. It is that simple. A lot of it is some dust leftover from the 2008 election. It is not 2008 anymore and things are changing.


21 posted on 09/25/2011 10:02:45 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: RightFighter

Republicans will vote for just about anyone against Obama.

The point is Palin would NOT get the nomination.

Palin lost the goodwill of a large number of her supporters, because of her nonserious teasing. And if she thinks she can just snap her finger and they will stampede to her side, she is mistaken.

The rest are in the arena, as she herself pointed out, while she is cashing the checks from FoxNews.


22 posted on 09/25/2011 10:02:55 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: yup2394871293
He means Darwin was adopted.
23 posted on 09/25/2011 10:03:13 PM PDT by de.rm ('Most people never believe anything you tell them unless it isn't true."-Groucho Marx)
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To: Ingtar

This is not 1979, this is over 30 years later.


24 posted on 09/25/2011 10:04:08 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity

The rest are falling like flies. Pawlently, Bachmann, Perry ?

This is not the NCAA tournament. You don’t have to attend and win a dozen cable debates to get the nomination. You just have to win primaries.


25 posted on 09/25/2011 10:06:43 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

There are deadlines fast approaching if she wants to be on the ballot in all 50 state primaries with or without the help of an official campaign staff.


26 posted on 09/25/2011 10:07:04 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Clairity
Palin lost the goodwill of a large number of her supporters, because of her nonserious teasing.

Her decision to quit the governorship in the middle of her term hasn't helped either.

I don't want her to run--not for president, that is. But of course I will vote for her if she is the nominee.

27 posted on 09/25/2011 10:10:04 PM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

“You just have to win primaries.”

I certainly agree with you on that.


28 posted on 09/25/2011 10:10:16 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

She can win if the turnout of conservatives is >90%. At the rate things are deteriorating, it might happen. Any self-described conservative who doesn’t show up at the polls is just a defeatist who will allow the thugs to run wild. I’ll gladly support a candidate who can ignite voter turnout in a positive way. But time is running out.


29 posted on 09/25/2011 10:14:11 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Anybody but Baracchio in 2012)
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To: Clairity

“The point is Palin would NOT get the nomination.”

Send me the lotto numbers too Nostradamus, I need the money.

Your version of ‘clarity’ seems pretty clouded. Try separating fact from opinion and get back to us.


30 posted on 09/25/2011 10:16:15 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Clairity

OK, I’ll bite. Why does a candidate have to announce earlier in an era when the message can be disseminated easier, people pay attention much later, and your fund raising organization has proven itself capable of bringing in enough individual contributions to more than make up for the big players who buy their candidates early?


31 posted on 09/25/2011 10:19:15 PM PDT by Ingtar (I closed my eyes, only for a moment, and the moment's gone...)
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To: yup2394871293

Lots of snarky posts, not much actual content and a 2011 signup...who were you the first trip through FreeRepublic?

I’m smelling a retread...


32 posted on 09/25/2011 10:20:16 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I assumed Perry was competent. The debates are demonstrating to me that he may not be. I’m still a Perry supporter, but my support is soft.

Palin has the opposite problem. Too many people assume she is incompetent. She needs the debates to demonstrate she isn’t incompetent. One or two good debate performances aren’t enough. She needs to run the table on the other candidates, not because of the Republican nomination but as a build up for the general election. I think there’ll be enough debates whenever she can reasonably be assumed to declare, but still, the more the better, IMHO.


33 posted on 09/25/2011 10:23:54 PM PDT by FreedomForce (Perry/Cain 2012 | Perry/Palin 2016 | Palin 2020)
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To: Norm Lenhart

If I were a candidate, I would not be showing up at all these cable TV debates. I would do 1 or 2 debates right before Iowa. If you clear your throat or look in the camera the wrong way your camapaign could be finished.

While I believe the Perry and Bachmann implosions were self inflicted. But people leave no margin for error at all by going to these things.

I think overexposure is another part of it. You risk becoming nothing but a talking head on a tv screen.

My goodness, if you are the front runner and there are 9 other people standing up there on the stage just waiting to gang up on you every week. geez


34 posted on 09/25/2011 10:26:27 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: Norm Lenhart

Go mark your territory somewhere else.


35 posted on 09/25/2011 10:28:27 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
“You just have to win primaries.”

Yea, then you have to cream Obama in several debates running, and out of the pack of Republicans running only Romney, Newt, and Cain are capable of doing that. And Palin if she runs has already proved herself when she went up against Biden. Those are the four names that can do it, like them or not.

Perry? Not a chance, sorry.

36 posted on 09/25/2011 10:31:14 PM PDT by NavyCanDo (GO MAMA GRIZZLY!)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

The bottom line is that Palin refuses to fall into the traps set for her and it drives the media/lib/rino types insane.

It shouldn’t. She told everyone exactly what she was going to do and she’s doing it. But just like their refusal to take her at her word at “running an unconventional campaign” they also to listen to anyone telling them where to look for her version of ‘campaign staff’ organization’ etc.

I and many others here have directed the PDS brigade to the works of Sun Tzu hundreds of times. Anyone reading it will see her pas and future actions as clear as a bell...but instead they mock and ridicule.

Fine by me.

There is zero benefit to Palin playing “fair” as one freeper recently whined. Politics ain’t beanbag. Reaching the goal is what matters and she’s doing it without all the lies and false promises of the ‘traditional’ politician.

Let then whine. I could not care any less than I do about people too stubborn to think for themselves and follow the herd. And If I’m wrong and she does not run/win? So what? I’m just some guy on the internet to begin with.


37 posted on 09/25/2011 10:36:52 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Clairity

What do you want to bet that when she does announce, she will shoot straight to the top of the polls, just as Perry did? Impossible to do if 3/4 of Republicans really don’t want her to run.


38 posted on 09/25/2011 10:37:58 PM PDT by NavyCanDo (GO MAMA GRIZZLY!)
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To: yup2394871293

And if I dont? You gonna just troll harder?


39 posted on 09/25/2011 10:38:45 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: rfp1234
Palin's ACTUAL policy positions put her fairly squarely in the mainstream/center of the American polity. She'll turn a lot of current negatives into positives, or at least neutrals, once the American people actually get a chance to hear her positions, rather than the funhouse-mirror caricature Tina Fey positions the Ruling Class want the American people to think Palin holds.

Honestly, IMHO, she's probably a bit . . . libertarian AND populist for most "social conservatives" (but don't tell that to the "lamestream media" who wouldn't know a libertarian from an evangelical Christian from a neo-Conservative from a RINO if their lives depended on it.

We're ALL "right-wing wackos" to them.)

If she runs, she'll run against the whole Potomac River/Wall Street cesspool, and by doing that she'll get a whole lot of just-plain-folks people who wouldn't ordinarily give a Republican even a first glance.

To be honest, I think if she would go into some of the inner city, black-majority neighborhoods of some of the big cities and some of the Hispanic-majority neighborhoods in California and the rest of the south, engage in her usual face-to-face retail politics, speak "truth to power" the way she has always done, you would be ASTOUNDED at how positive a reaction she'd get--but that's just me and my opinion. I think Palin could target those key Democrat demographics with the message "they're taking you for granted. Aren't you tired of being taken for granted--I don't want to take you for granted. I want you to be FREE!" and make that message really connect.

(This may be why I'm not a professional political campaign consultant. Of course, I'm not sure Palin's in the market for professional political campaign consultants. Frankly, I'd offer the same advice to ANY Republican Presidential candidate who I thought could actually pull it off.)

If she doesn't get in, I'll likely vote Cain if I get a chance.

40 posted on 09/25/2011 10:39:11 PM PDT by filbert (More filbert at http://www.medary.com--GAME ON!!!)
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To: RightFighter

“if she runs, and she wins the nomination, will you vote for her?”

Yes, but that is the same answer I’ll give for any “R” nominee.

The question is: will she run third party? Because that will doom the R nominee and, in all likelihood give us 4 more years of the big O.

GOD FORBID!


41 posted on 09/25/2011 10:39:38 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: FreedomForce

“I assumed Perry was competent. The debates are demonstrating to me that he may not be. I’m still a Perry supporter,....”

Well, there goes any hint of credibility you may have had.

“Palin has the opposite problem. Too many people assume she is incompetent. She needs the debates to demonstrate she isn’t incompetent. One or two good debate performances aren’t enough.”

Palin needs to “demonstrate” this through these idiotic debates? Where her opponets would be mental midgets like the texas two-some of Ron “freakin” Paul and Perry???? Laughable.

Son, if you think Perry has a serious chance of becoming President of the United States, I have a lot in a real nice part of the swamp that you should take a look at.


42 posted on 09/25/2011 10:45:38 PM PDT by Mtner77
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

If you want to revolve, you must first evolve

That’s a quotable quote


43 posted on 09/25/2011 10:49:04 PM PDT by SarahPalinForPresident2012 (She's runnin')
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To: SarahPalinForPresident2012

“She’s runnin’”

Yup. And she is the only one who stands a snowball chance of winning. Period.


44 posted on 09/25/2011 10:51:48 PM PDT by Mtner77
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To: Norm Lenhart; yup2394871293
who were you the first trip through FreeRepublic? I’m smelling a retread...

I got the same stench from this newbie on another thread tonight.

45 posted on 09/25/2011 10:53:29 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Mtner77

Whether Perry can pull himself out of difficulty he’s gotten himself into or not will determine if I continue to support him. He’s going to have to defend his positions better than he has so far. I’m waiting to see if he’s resilient. I’d gauge that as a positive quality for a candidate or a President. I don’t want someone who crumbles when things get tough, no matter how well they poll. And Perry is still polling pretty well although not as well as when he first entered the race.


46 posted on 09/25/2011 10:54:32 PM PDT by FreedomForce (Perry/Cain 2012 | Perry/Palin 2016 | Palin 2020)
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To: Windflier

Were we right or were we right? ;)


47 posted on 09/25/2011 10:56:41 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: yup2394871293; Norm Lenhart
Go mark your territory somewhere else.

I know an ex-Freeper who used to talk exactly like that. I think I know who you are now. But please, keep talking. It'll help me get a bead on you.

48 posted on 09/25/2011 10:58:28 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

OK, who am I?


49 posted on 09/25/2011 11:00:55 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: yup2394871293; Windflier

“OK, who am I?”

Amnesia, Windy...the final stage of PDS ;)


50 posted on 09/25/2011 11:02:39 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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