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Man ditches plane into ocean off coast of Hawaii after running out of gas
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Posted on 10/09/2011 12:52:02 AM PDT by Borough Park

A 65-year-old man flying from California to Hawaii was forced to ditch his plane in the Pacific Ocean on Friday night 13 miles off the coast of Hilo after running out of gas, the U.S. Coast Guard said.

The man was flying for delivery a Cessna 310 twin-engine aircraft from Monterey, California, to Hilo when he radioed federal aviation authorities that he was 500 miles out and low on fuel, said Petty Officer 3rd Class Angela Henderson, a spokeswoman for the Coast Guard.

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Hilo is about 2,300 miles west of Monterey, where the pilot's flight began.

According to the aviation site Airliners.net, Cessna 310 aircraft have a range between 760 to 1955 miles, depending on various factors including cruising altitude, weight, amount of reserve fuel and the specific model.

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1 posted on 10/09/2011 12:52:04 AM PDT by Borough Park
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To: Borough Park

>>> Hilo is about 2,300 miles west of Monterey, where the pilot’s flight began. According to the aviation site Airliners.net, Cessna 310 aircraft have a range between 760 to 1955 miles,

So are they saying he glided 332 miles before ditching?

Thinking back, I believe this was the plot for an episode of Magnum.


2 posted on 10/09/2011 1:05:21 AM PDT by tlb
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To: Borough Park

“Magnum! There is an aer-o-plane in Mr. Masters’ tidal pool - and it’s all your fault!”


3 posted on 10/09/2011 1:28:06 AM PDT by grundle
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To: tlb
I can't imagine a competent pilot that would fail to plan a flight and not understand it was well beyond the range of the aircraft. If he lives, he owes the owner of the aircraft the full value. Unbelievable.

The guy was flying west against the jetstream, so the published capability would be even less.

4 posted on 10/09/2011 1:30:27 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Borough Park
"We're gonna need a bigger plane!"
5 posted on 10/09/2011 1:36:31 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Borough Park

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=_2kJ61QhlXs


6 posted on 10/09/2011 2:30:59 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Myrddin
I can't imagine a competent pilot that would fail to plan a flight and not understand it was well beyond the range of the aircraft.

Since it was a delivery, they usually put extra fuel on-board for trips like this.

It sounds as if they miscalculated the headwind.

7 posted on 10/09/2011 2:41:02 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Cain for President - Because I like the content of his character)
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To: Borough Park

Math is just to darned hard for some people.


8 posted on 10/09/2011 3:37:12 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Erik Latranyi

Since it was a delivery, they usually put extra fuel on-board for trips like this.
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For ferry/delivery flights they normally strip out the cabin interior and turn the plane into a flying gas can ... and ship the interior components seperately for re-installation. To get as far as he did he must have had aux fuel...

I agree , either the headwinds were miscalculated or the fuel burn was higher than expected...


9 posted on 10/09/2011 3:42:22 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Myrddin

Worked on a C-310, years ago, that was going to HI. They had removed the rear 4 seats and installed a cradle that held 2 55 gallon drums on bottom, a 30 gallon drum on top. The pilot also had several 5 gallon cans on the co-pilot floor so he could add that if needed. This almost doubled the original fuel capacity. Common method of getting planes to HI.


10 posted on 10/09/2011 3:44:52 AM PDT by stickandrudder (Another Bitter-Clinger! God-Family-Tribe)
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To: Myrddin

As others have pointed out, it is usual to add auxiliary fuel tanks for flights like this, putting the range well above the published maximum. Permission is required from the FAA for this since it also puts the gross weight above the rated maximum. The FAA evaluates the proposed modification and either issues or denies a waiver on that basis. Most light planes will lift a very substantial overload since rated maximum gross weight is based on what is safe for routine, day-to-day operation and not the maximum that could be handled on a one time basis.


11 posted on 10/09/2011 4:18:57 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

If he was above 10,000 he would have been bucking headwinds. Below 3/5,000 he could have been going with the wind. Did he fly “great circle” north or south of the straight line?


12 posted on 10/09/2011 4:29:25 AM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: Borough Park

I guess the big question is, was the pilot employed by the owner or seller/dealer?


13 posted on 10/09/2011 4:37:55 AM PDT by TexasCajun (Fast & Furious , Solyndra & Light Squared would be enough to impeach any White President !!)
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To: tlb; Myrddin
Record breaking flights often involved very high overloads. In 1949, William Odom flew a modified Beech Bonanza (normal range about 800 miles) non-stop from Hononlulu to Teterboro NJ, a distance of 5,273 miles. This required adding more than 250 gallons of extra fuel to the aircraft's usual 40 gallon capacity.
14 posted on 10/09/2011 4:50:17 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: Vaduz
Math is just to darned hard for some people.

Grammar is to two too.
15 posted on 10/09/2011 4:52:20 AM PDT by 762X51
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To: atomic conspiracy

“Most light planes will lift a very substantial overload since rated maximum gross weight is based on what is safe for routine, day-to-day operation and not the maximum that could be handled on a one time basis.”

A fact that has gotten many a pilot in deep doo doo ‘roundabout’ the first turn...


16 posted on 10/09/2011 4:59:27 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: tlb

“Thinking back, I believe this was the plot for an episode of Magnum.”

Yes it was. You are correct.

The bad guys on the west coast loaded the plane with drugs and overloaded it with weights so the plane would run out of fuel before reaching Hawaii. The bad guys would then dive for the drugs in the wreckage.

But instead, the plane went down in Robin Masters’ tidal pool.


17 posted on 10/09/2011 5:31:52 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Borough Park

MY objection is that he was 65 years old! People shouldn’t be allowed out of the house at that age!


18 posted on 10/09/2011 6:50:00 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("If Herman Cain does become President, his Vice President will be known as Co-Cain." -- Laz, 2011)
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To: Lazamataz
MY objection is that he was 65 years old! People shouldn’t be allowed out of the house at that age!

Not to worry...Obamacare will take good care of you

19 posted on 10/09/2011 7:30:03 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obama's ratings are so low...Kenyans accuse him of being born in the USA,)
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To: Borough Park

Would have been better to pull the wings outboard of the engines, cocooned it in plastic and shipped it by freighter.


20 posted on 10/09/2011 7:31:55 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Talent Without Ambition Is Bad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse.)
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To: SkyDancer

The wings on a C-310 come off at the fuselage, not outboard of the engines. Lots of work on a multi-engine to pull the wings. Easy on single engine, done all the time to ship them.


21 posted on 10/09/2011 12:26:21 PM PDT by stickandrudder (Another Bitter-Clinger! God-Family-Tribe)
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To: stickandrudder

I was thinking more of those WWII pictures of twin engine planes on freighters going to Europe. Would have thought the 310 would be the same. So you’re saying that the wing is integral with the engine? No disconnect points/attachment to the engine nacelle?


22 posted on 10/09/2011 12:43:40 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Talent Without Ambition Is Bad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse.)
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To: SkyDancer

Yeah, pretty much. Wing is one piece from wing root at fuselage to wing tip. Engines come off, everything else is riveted together. The tip tank, main tank (50 gallons), come off, then just the gear and access panels.


23 posted on 10/09/2011 4:07:42 PM PDT by stickandrudder (Another Bitter-Clinger! God-Family-Tribe)
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To: stickandrudder

So basically you can’t un-rivet in places to remove part of the wing. So what happens if the wing is damaged from the nacelle outwards to the wing tip? Does the whole wing have to be replaced?


24 posted on 10/09/2011 4:10:59 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Talent Without Ambition Is Bad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse.)
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To: SkyDancer

Leading edge, top and bottom skins, supporting ribs are easy to replace. Lots of rivets. If the main spar is damaged, you got problems. Rear spar is easier, but still a job.


25 posted on 10/10/2011 6:24:58 PM PDT by stickandrudder (Another Bitter-Clinger! God-Family-Tribe)
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To: stickandrudder

Seems like then load in extra range tanks and go for it.


26 posted on 10/10/2011 6:45:49 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Talent Without Ambition Is Bad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse.)
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