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Ancient Etruscan childbirth image is first for western art
Southern Methodist University ^ | Unknown

Posted on 10/19/2011 9:01:38 AM PDT by decimon

An archaeological excavation at Poggio Colla, the site of a 2,700-year-old Etruscan settlement in Italy's Mugello Valley, has turned up a surprising and unique find: two images of a woman giving birth to a child.

Researchers from the Mugello Valley Archaeological Project, which oversees the Poggio Colla excavation site some 20 miles northeast of Florence, discovered the images on a small fragment from a ceramic vessel that is more than 2,600 years old.

The images show the head and shoulders of a baby emerging from a mother represented with her knees raised and her face shown in profile, one arm raised, and a long ponytail running down her back.

The excavation is a project of Southern Methodist University, Franklin and Marshall College in Lancaster, Penn., and the University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology, in collaboration with The Open University in Milton Keynes, England.

The identification of the scene was made by Phil Perkins, an authority on Etruscan bucchero and professor of archaeology at The Open University.

"We were astounded to see this intimate scene; it must be the earliest representation of childbirth in Western art," said Perkins. "Etruscan women are usually represented feasting or participating in rituals, or they are goddesses. Now we have to solve the mystery of who she is and who her child is."

The Etruscans were the first settlers of Italy, long before the Roman Empire. They built the first cities, were a conduit for the introduction of Greek culture to the Romans, and were known for their art, agriculture, fine metalworking and commerce. They occupied Italy for the first millennium B.C., but were conquered by the Romans and eventually became absorbed into their empire.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.smu.edu ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: etruria; etruscan; etruscans; godsgravesglyphs

1 posted on 10/19/2011 9:01:40 AM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv

e-truscan ping.


2 posted on 10/19/2011 9:04:05 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Researchers at SMU-led Etruscan dig in Italy discover ancient depiction of childbirth - first of its kind ever found

3 posted on 10/19/2011 9:17:43 AM PDT by blam
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To: decimon

I guess it must be an invasion of privacy to actually show the image. Cool story otherwise but it’s hard to understand a story about an image that does not contain the image.


4 posted on 10/19/2011 9:25:25 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: muir_redwoods
Well, here is the link to the image.


5 posted on 10/19/2011 9:36:16 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: blam

Thanks.

If that’s how Etruscan women looked then it’s no wonder they are no more.


6 posted on 10/19/2011 9:59:08 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
The Enigma Of Italy's Ancient Etruscans Is Finally Unravelled

DNA tests on their Italian descendants show the 'tuscii' came from Turkey

7 posted on 10/19/2011 10:09:33 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Interesting. Vergil says, “I told you so!”


8 posted on 10/19/2011 10:12:51 AM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: decimon; SunkenCiv

How'd they give birth thru those Etruscan Tubez

9 posted on 10/19/2011 10:21:38 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: blam
The Enigma Of Italy's Ancient Etruscans Is Finally Unravelled

DNA tests on their Italian descendants show the 'tuscii' came from Turkey

Then that baby resulted from a turkey baster, so to speak.

10 posted on 10/19/2011 10:22:15 AM PDT by decimon
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To: blam
The Enigma Of Italy's Ancient Etruscans Is Finally Unravelled. DNA tests on their Italian descendants show the 'tuscii' came from Turkey

So then....does this mean that Virgil's Aneid is NOT just another mythical tale?

11 posted on 10/19/2011 10:32:00 AM PDT by RepRivFarm ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell)
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To: martin_fierro

Failopian. ;-)


12 posted on 10/19/2011 10:36:54 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Am I paying for this?


13 posted on 10/19/2011 11:10:42 AM PDT by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander -- ..........................NUTS !)
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To: RepRivFarm

That is correct. Virgil’s epic centered around the survivors of Troy migrating to the Italian penninsula and eventually founding Rome.


14 posted on 10/19/2011 11:50:27 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: Vigilanteman

Somebody’s got one heck of an imagination.


15 posted on 10/19/2011 2:12:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: martin_fierro

;’)


16 posted on 10/19/2011 7:31:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: decimon; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks decimon.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


17 posted on 10/19/2011 7:32:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: BenLurkin

...yep; and what they’re imagining is not what I imagine I’m seeing.

And posted on a ‘family friendly’ site, no less. *<];-’)


18 posted on 10/19/2011 8:13:05 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: decimon

LOL you win!


19 posted on 10/19/2011 9:22:53 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: blam

I think these researchers have it wrong. It looks like a two headed ancient alien to me.


20 posted on 10/19/2011 9:29:28 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk
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To: decimon
Fascinating. I've seen similar images from Africa, India, and Australia but never something this old from the West. I wonder if it was thought to be too sacred or too animalistic to depict for western tastes.
21 posted on 10/20/2011 12:23:27 AM PDT by texanred
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To: decimon
If that’s how Etruscan women looked then it’s no wonder they are no more.

Snarky, snarky. And when may we see examples of your art? That comment is unworthy of you, decimon.

22 posted on 10/20/2011 12:52:33 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: muir_redwoods

FTA: The fragment was excavated by William Nutt, who is a graduate student in anthropology at the University of Texas at Arlington and who is legally blind.

Preserving the privacy....


23 posted on 10/20/2011 1:12:59 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: decimon

Having stared at the image for a few minutes, I still fail to see a woman giving birth.


24 posted on 10/20/2011 8:15:36 AM PDT by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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To: Dustbunny

Her body is facing us. She’s seated or squatting. Her right hand is between her legs. Her left arm is crooked vertically.


25 posted on 10/20/2011 8:26:31 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Looks like a Christmas tree to me.


26 posted on 10/20/2011 8:47:57 AM PDT by curmudgeonII (Vocatus atque non vocatus deus aderit.)
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To: decimon

Still queasy after all these years....


27 posted on 10/20/2011 5:00:45 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (If this creature is not stopped it could make its way to Novosibirsk!)
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To: Dustbunny

If that’s a woman giving birth, then where, pray tell,is her bosom?

I don’t see it.


28 posted on 10/20/2011 5:35:05 PM PDT by madison10
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To: afraidfortherepublic

He rubbed his hands all over it.


29 posted on 10/20/2011 6:22:20 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SatinDoll

...and the Phoenicians founded Carthage.


30 posted on 10/20/2011 6:23:52 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I believe they also founded Cadiz, on the southwestern shore of Spain. But what really might be the case there, as maybe in the founding of Carthage, is there already existed a trading settlement of some sort, a village or small city, made up of local tribes.


31 posted on 10/20/2011 7:32:51 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll

You are correct about Cadiz. Scipio Africanus conquered it from Carthage IIRC. Plus, as you know, given geography building sites usually were continuously used because their utility was so great and building materials were present.


32 posted on 10/21/2011 5:15:23 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: decimon; SunkenCiv

When I saw the headline I imagined a woman shaking a fist at her husband, screaming, “you bastard, you did this to me!”


33 posted on 10/24/2011 12:16:14 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

What did she expect to happen when her husband let her eat in the same room? Geez.


34 posted on 10/24/2011 6:49:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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