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Biographer: Jobs refused early and potentially life-saving surgery
cBS news ^ | 10/20/11 | Staff

Posted on 10/20/2011 8:45:49 PM PDT by SaraJohnson

(CBS News) Apple CEO Steve Jobs refused to allow surgeons to perform what could have been life-saving surgery on his pancreatic cancer, says his biographer Walter Isaacson...

"I've asked [Jobs why he didn't get an operation then] and he said, 'I didn't want my body to be opened...I didn't want to be violated in that way,'" Isaacson recalls. So he waited nine months, while his wife and others urged him to do it, before getting the operation, reveals Isaacson. Asked by Kroft how such an intelligent man could make such a seemingly stupid decision, Isaacson replies, "I think that he kind of felt that if you ignore something, if you don't want something to exist, you can have magical thinking...we talked about this a lot," he tells Kroft. "He wanted to talk about it, how he regretted it....I think he felt he should have been operated on sooner."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: cancer; ceoliberalism; healthcare; magicalthinking; stevejobs
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We always ask ourselves how CEO's could support Marxists in power and political correctness.

It is shocking that someone trying to run a major operation like Apple could be so out of touch with the most basic aspects of reality. So much so, it may have killed him.

1 posted on 10/20/2011 8:45:57 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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On the other hand, I have yet to hear of anyone surviving pancreatic cancer. Earlier surgery might not have made a difference.


2 posted on 10/20/2011 8:50:25 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: SaraJohnson
I think they call it denial. As said in the article:

Asked by Kroft how such an intelligent man could make such a seemingly stupid decision, Isaacson replies, "I think that he kind of felt that if you ignore something, if you don't want something to exist, you can have magical thinking...we talked about this a lot," he tells Kroft. "He wanted to talk about it, how he regretted it....I think he felt he should have been operated on sooner."

I think this is understandable. People deal with incredible blows differently and I think we all agree Steve Jobs was a mind of a unique mind and way of seeing things. Thus it doesn't surprise me at all that he processed this sort of news differently and even had magical thinking. It shows he lives in a much more creative reality more often than many.

He gave many a great gift. He is allowed to be human. He has given more than most to the earth before passing. I applaud his humanness. We got the best part of the deal.

3 posted on 10/20/2011 8:59:31 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: exDemMom

You might be right. I have not researched the latest treatment for the disease.

Magical thinking - that you can avoid making the decision or put off the decision when you have cancer, is nutz. If you decide the odds of treatment are too low for the amount of pain and suffering treatment will exact, that is rational.


4 posted on 10/20/2011 9:00:08 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: exDemMom

I know someone that had her pancreas removed, oh... Must be over twenty years ago. Sometimes it works.


5 posted on 10/20/2011 9:00:44 PM PDT by Ramius (personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: exDemMom

exactly.


6 posted on 10/20/2011 9:01:40 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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One of his “smart” gifts was supporting socialists and socialism. Socialism is based on magical thinking and a committed denial of human nature, history and reality. Political correctness is magical thinking which adds up to a pack of dangerous lies.


7 posted on 10/20/2011 9:02:43 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: exDemMom

It can be cured if caught very early, which it usually isn’t.


8 posted on 10/20/2011 9:02:51 PM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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pancreatic cancer is a death sentence


9 posted on 10/20/2011 9:03:23 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: SaraJohnson

So refusing anything that could prolong life a couple more years is “stupid”. Interesting value judgement -


10 posted on 10/20/2011 9:13:30 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: SaraJohnson

I agree with you on all those points and am impressed with your point. I’m just willing to give him a pass regarding his reactions to finding out about his cancer. Politics and political philosophy fall into another category however.


11 posted on 10/20/2011 9:16:18 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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I had a close friend who had breast cancer. She had a double mastectomy, chemo, the works, she was feeling much better. Four years she went in for a check up and walked out with a clean bill of health. The fifth year she refused to go in. Nothing we could say would make her go in. Until the day almost a year later when she almost passed out at her daughter's recital.

That was in July. We buried her before Christmas. She knew she was sick she just hoped that if she ignored it it would go away. It didn't.

What makes people do the things they do? Beats the hell out of me.

12 posted on 10/20/2011 9:18:19 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (*Philosophy lesson 117-22b: Anyone who demands to be respected is undeserving of it.*)
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pancreatic cancer is a death sentence

Yes and even Steve Jobs could not come up with the ipancreas. Life is also a death sentence and not to many people deal with that straight up and all perfect when they come to realize that means none of us get out of here alive.

13 posted on 10/20/2011 9:21:19 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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Surgery might’ve extended his life another year or two. Most pancreatic cancer isn’t diagnosed until it has already spread to other organs. My dad died 2 months after he was diagnosed.


14 posted on 10/20/2011 9:24:07 PM PDT by toothfairy86
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pancreatic cancer is a death sentence

Not necessarily anymore. They are using new techniques all the time now. There is the cyberknife surgery (laser) that has been very effective on those with certain types of pancreatic cancer, and there is a new type of treatment, similar to the cyberknife laser surgery, only using electrical pulses of some sort (being done at a hospital in Louisville, KY). One of my relatives had this surgery, and has been told that his cancer is totally gone, using this new method).

There are Ads currently running on TV that feature a woman named Peggy speaking about the cyberknife laser surgery and how it cured her type of pancreatic cancer, and it is five years now since she had her surgery (she’s a real person, not a TV model). So, as more attention is being paid to pancreatic cancer and how to cure it, more and more new methods are hitting the market that will provide a much better survival rate for these types of cancers and others.


15 posted on 10/20/2011 9:26:25 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: SaraJohnson
Apparently, Steve Jobs opted out on certain treatments. Why 'analyze' motive or reason? It was his decision; period.

No doubt, throughout his illness, he was given advice on what or what not to do and what the various consequences of his decision would be.

He chose. With that...it should be left alone ...period.

16 posted on 10/20/2011 9:28:53 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Country Folks can survive....can you? Are you ready?)
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To: Outlaw Woman

BUMP what you said. Great post.


17 posted on 10/20/2011 9:31:23 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SaraJohnson

If the surgery was a Whipple procedure, look it up....it carries lots of risks and side affects....many people would not opt for it.....pancreatic cancer for the most part is still terminal....very few people survive it for more than a couple of years, although there are people that do....


18 posted on 10/20/2011 9:31:35 PM PDT by cherry
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To: toothfairy86

The article claims his cancer was found early enough to make surgery worthwhile.


19 posted on 10/20/2011 9:32:04 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

Steve supported socialism? When and where? The guy didn’t do non-anonymous charitable donations. You have to prove it to me.


20 posted on 10/20/2011 9:35:23 PM PDT by Aqua225 (Realist)
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