Skip to comments.What to do with Romney?
Posted on 10/28/2011 10:01:28 AM PDT by EMG2012
Hi everyone-- I'm a longtime lurker of FR and just signed up to get your feedback about a question I am sure many of us are asking ourselves. As a lifelong conservative, I am concerned about the possibility (probability?) of Mitt Romney receiving the GOP nomination for president next year. Many of my friends are convinced Romney will win the nomination, but I am very concerned that if he were to get into office, he would not stand up for the conservative policies we desperately need after the past four years. I want Obama out of office more than anything, but how do I reconcile the possibility of supporting Romney? Is there a third party candidate to draft who could help us take back our country?
Any feedback from all of you is much appreciated-- I just don't know what to think at this point. Thanks!
Mitt will likely win NH and little else.
The MSM and RINOs like Rove will say after NH, it's all over, Mitt's the one. Fox will be rabid for Mitt! (I only look at FOX when Sarah is on. I NEVER have FOX on otherwise)
We will just have to ignore these elite pigs and vote for a real conservative. There is no way Mitt wins SC and FL.
Obama will be re-elected because the conditions that led to his election have not been reversed.
It's not really a fix, it's more to the fact that Romney is just a more skilled candidate than the rest. He's pretty damn intelligent in the ways of politics. The reality is it takes a good politician to win. You can cry about how unconservative these guys are, but that's more to the fact that the America public is just not as conservative as some people claim they are.
If you look at most of history, Republican presidents were not all that conservative, but that does not mean that some conservative laws and initiatives did not win out when they were president. This has to be the most conservative POTUS candidature I can remember. It's national politics, you can't have your cake and eat it too. You win some and you lose some. That's the way it will always be unless your particular small interest groups crowns it's own king of the nation. Never going to happen until Jesus comes, and everyone will be surprised how unlike them He really is.
With Barak in office for another 4 years, it should take about 18 months until CW2 starts. Then, we can take out the trash.
That's just crazy talk. You show a basic misunderstands of what national elections are. You are not going to get everyone to agree with your definition of a conservative on a national level. You probably think your very special however. This is why the liberals will always have their way in this country, because they know how to vote in massive groups, not for candidates who give them everthing they want, but at least for the candidate who will move their agendas forward more than the next guy.
So what if you are wrong about this? Are you going to call people liberal because they don't believe this is true? Ridiculous.
If you control or strongly influence a number of votes that is significant in comparison to the likely margin of victory (millions), then "carving off part of the Republican vote" is a concern. If you're just one ordinary voter (like me) then your vote serves mainly to send a message to all the parties - and the question becomes, what message do you want to send?
REPUBLICANS and Democrats are jointly responsible. Our "elected" overlords have voted themselves powers that rival or surpass the Roman Senate.
AND YOU THINK WE SHOULD SMILE AND TAKE IT IN THE ASS FOREVER!
There are a great many people, even including the poor deluded OWS types, that no longer think that a Civil War to overthrow the regime is silly or crazy. Filling ditches with Leftists, and their enablers, is approaching.
To sum up, national elections are an exercise in futility, meant only to foster the illusion that we have some kind of control over the Royalty. It's past time to start sharpening Guillotine blades. The technology to destroy millions, in massive groups, exists. It time to dust it off.
“Romney ISN’T a conservative. He is, at best, a RINO.”
Get lost Mitt!
I still haven’t decided on a primary candidate. But come the general, I’m voting GOP, Romney or not. That’s a no-brainer.
So in your book lying panderer = good politician. It is obvious why you admire Mittens so much.
. . . which is why, almost 2 years ago, I adopted my tagline, "Draft Palin"
I haven't abandoned it, even tho it looks like a long shot at this point with her having disavowed any plan to run. But then, a draft does not require a run by the person drafted, does it?
As I say, I adopted that tagline precisely because of the need to fend off a Romney run in '12. If we could have coalesced around a solid conservative, and I thought (and think) Palin was solid, we would have been able to nip the Romney/Establishment problem in the bud.
As if people not organized enough to win elections will be able to riot their way to power and maintain that power in a sensible manner or at all for that matter. Not voting is a form of surrender.
So, someone's already "fixed" your vote? Romney can't win unless a majority of Republican voters vote for him. Are you telling me that they have no choice, and MUST give him their vote?
If you really don't want Romney for our nominee, now's your chance to prevent it from happening. Educate everyone you know about his liberal record. Send emails. Post to Facebook. Get up and talk to your local Tea Party group.
Do whatever it takes, but don't sit there hanging your head as if there's nothing you can do to stop him.
Then work your ever lovin' tail off for Herman Cain. If Romney is the last man standing, so many conservatives will stay home, Obama will win by default.
The Democrats know this, which is why they're handling Romney with kid gloves. They WANT him to be our nominee, precisely because they know that conservatives hate his guts.
I think you're right, Pallis. The conservatives who are running in the single digits should consider falling on their swords for the good of the nation. We cannot afford to elect anyone but a red meat, take no prisoners, conservative reformer in 2012.
Johnson, Huntsman, Bachmann, Paul, Perry - all of them need to wake up and smell the coffee. They're not going to win this thing, but they sure can hand it to Romney if they all keep hanging on.
Add up their numbers (small as they are) and those votes would give Cain the decisive edge against Mitt in every state.
We can't afford another "Republican" like Bush Jr. The TSA is a Bush production. I've always questioned why Bush didn't investigate Clinton, and the Wicked Witch of Park Ridge, Il, and indict the F%^kers. I suspect that he was afraid that the Dims would dig up the sins of the son.
Hmmm....... not a good indicator. Caught another newbie doing that, just the other day.
This one is begging for the Kitties to show up to play.
Weak, and ever so wrong.
A bit counter-intuitive, but I get your logic. I'm almost there myself, but there's no way in HELL that I would ever pull a lever for the Kenyan Usurper. I'll write in Sarah Palin, and go home to clean my guns, if Mitt's the nominee.
There was an article, a few days ago, about security in the Chicago voting process. Look it up.
How about Senator "Smalley" and his "keep counting until the results are what we want..." method of electoral protest? Milwaukee and Dem Vandalism?
St. Louis and "Keep the polls open until we've finished stuffing the ballot boxes?"
How about the fight to keep voters from being verified as actually eligible?
If Romney wins, the Dow will limp along, more fed regulations will pass, more government intrusion will screw things tighter, and RINO supporters will dimly wonder why things aren't getting any better.
Then, one day the SS checks will bounce.
I really Love Sarah. But she herself has expressed her desire NOT to be POTUS at this time. I think it would be disrespectful(as well as unconstitutional)to FORCE her!
Please, God, NO!
That is my intention! :-)
Well ok, you’ve surrendered. Now what?
What’s your plan going forward, or are you going to sit there trying to demoralize everyone who’s still got some fight left in them?
>> Romney can’t win unless a majority of Republican voters vote for him <<
Not really correct. A plurality could very easily be all it would take.
Well, of course. It's what I meant, in so many words.
So, you keep making all the appropriate noises, but the sincerity is gone. You look at a Crown Vic as a target, estimating angles, ranges, chinks in the armor, as a mental exercise. You make sure you can find moth balls and sugar and Karo syrup and ammonium nitrate fertilizer and nitro methane fuel, (RC model airplane fuel, with various fractions of castor oil, and Estes electric matches.), in the shops. Not to buy, just to confirm locations, like a submarine checking the horizon before going deep, again. You know the dope to dial into the scope of the .30-06 for every 100 yards out to 800, for the full house loads with the 200 gr Sierra Matchking BTHP, the ones that flatten the primer when fired...
There are people who won't believe what's happened, and even after the cattle cars start rolling, making noises about, "They still need us, they're civilized, logical, there are LAWS!"
Have you picked out the material for the Yellow Star they want you to wear?
I haven't "surrendered." First you have to clear the Zone, and then you start making alternate plans.
Eventually, there will be the word "wolverine" spray painted on the side of a burned out police car... I hope I can remember how to spell it.
I read you, but making doom and gloom comments on the board won't help rally the troop morale for such a time as you imagine.
Romneybots are not merely liberals but they are useless cowards in the 2012 warfare of our lives. They would squander our best opportunity to crush the left since Ronaldus Maximus.
Also rule out Huntsman and Paul.
Get down to business and choose an actual reliable conservative and ride the crest of the wave in 2012. Send Mittens packing permanently. We do not need a pampered trust fund baby as our standard bearer.
Hi, Pete. See #83
I really Love Sarah. But she herself has expressed her desire NOT to be POTUS at this time. I think it would be disrespectful (as well as unconstitutional)to FORCE her!
Let's be serious; General William T. Sherman illustrated the situation perfectly when he responded to a "Draft Sherman" movement by saying, "If nominated I will not run, if elected I will not serve."He said that because he actually did not want the nomination. He had to go to that explicit length in his denial because it is traditional that candidates be coy about their intentions/desires because it can be seen as presumptuous to consider one's own self to be the best qualified American for the job of President of the United States.
Gov. Palin hasn't seen fit to quote General Sherman, not least because nobody but me is saying that we should draft her. Whether or not she would reject a draft, we do not know. Knowing as we do that she accepted the vP nomination only three years ago, however, can we not agree that any assumption that she would reject a presidential nomination if tendered seems highly speculative?
Seems quite obvious to me you’re just trolling.
I still go thru the motions, I just don't believe in the efficacy.
The GOP candidate will not be that degenerate liar and con man FLIP SLICK WILLARD RINO ROMNEY.
Now that 4 Constitutional amendments and Motor Voter has made this into a Democracy, this government will collapse, as all democracies do.
Mass extermination of the domestic marxist enemy within isn't necessary or something that should even be joked about.
All that needs to happen is the following:
Senior military commanders need to round up the reds (the Congressional Progressive Caucus for starters) and put them on a couple of planes to Cuba.
Provisional military government for 6 months, then new elections for all congressional seats and the WH, incumbents need not apply.
Only tax paying citizens and veterans are enfranchised in the new Republic.
All amendments other than the original bill of rights are repealed.
The Capital is rotated every year to the State House of one of the Fifty States (no more DC Washingtonians)
Dueling legalized within Washington DC limits for good measure
I certainly hope not! :-)
Oh? Then why did Tokyo Rose spend so much time trying to demoralize the American troops in WWII?
A steady drumbeat of doom and gloom most certainly does affect the morale of those who are exposed to it. It's insidious, and can even be considered downright evil.
Feel like giving up, or going underground? Keep it to yourself. Those thoughts aren't going to encourage anyone else to stand and fight another day.
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