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Posted on 10/28/2011 10:33:34 PM PDT by BigJohn44
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The pitcher throwin’ at the batter? Po’ widdo boy.
St. Louis has a long proud history of drilling batters. I am glad to see a pitcher use that tool again.
LOL! Punching bag.
As for McGwire, it's a little more complicated. Not a single team in baseball can claim they were steroid-free. That's not to excuse McGwire, but to provide context and perspective. After the '94 strike, MLB was reeling. McGwire and Sosa brought the fans back in that 1998 Home Run Derby. It wasn't just La Russa who looked the other way, it was everyone in baseball.
As for the 2011 World Series, it was simply one of the best series ever. Sure, there were errors, pitching mistakes, and epic failures. But that's the case in every series. Baseball is hardly a precision game. The Rangers are a top notch group of players, and they will be back in the WS.
John, your rant reminds me of Al Gore in 2000.
Yes drilling and dusting batters CAN be a useful tool. When pitchers are required to bat, so they can suffer the consequences of their actions. But NOT in a WS 7th game with bags loaded! And AFTER walking in a run, putting your team behind by an even greater margin. Unforgiveable.
I've had the privilege of living in St. Louis for nearly a year and visiting on several occasions (hence my affinity for the Cards). People there, and Missourians in general are warm and laid back, generally unpretentious and considerate, much like Texans in many ways but with a different accent. St. Louis was more South than North from my experience there, with parts of the city subject to racial tensions.
Totally hear you about Philly and other places (Chicago?) - would your friend have been welcomed there with a Rangers jersey?
Hear you about the hurt, too. I felt exactly the same way during the Stanley Cup this past summer with the Canucks coming oh, so close, trying to get their first championship.
Memo Number One to Rangers Fan: When you’re behind withe the bases loaded in Game Seven, it’s a bad time for your pitcher to walk in a run.
Memo Number Two to Rangers Fan: When you’re even further behind in Game Seven with the bases still loaded because your pitcher screwed up Memo Number One, and you go to the bullpen to stop the hemorrhaging, it’s a really bad time for your reliever to plink the batter with his first pitch.
Season over. Thanks for playing.
I don’t even like the Cards but this is just stupid.
Yep. I just said the same thing. MLB pitchers get paid big bucks for their control. Feldman’s pitch looked like it went over the edge of the plate, but the ump called it ball 4. Too close for the batter to not have taken a cut at IMHO, but he was there, not me. Still risky for Feldman to chance walking in a run, but he did. The final nail in the coffin was the hit batsman. The game was then out of reach. The Cards were better, and deserved the trophy. It’s going to take a miracle for the Rangers to three-peat and get back to the WS next year. Not many teams go the distance that many times in a row. But I don’t doubt they’ll be good next year.
I'll tell you what is stupid: Showering praise and respect on McGwire and LaRussa, who are perhaps the biggest cheaters ever to be involved in the game of baseball.
If Pete Rose were for some reason reinstated, and as a manager guided a team to a world series win, would that be right?
It is just not right that LaRussa is even allowed to be in the league. The cheating piece of crap should be exiled like Rose.
Apparently some Cardinal fans and other milk-toast types who think everything in MLB is nicey-nicey don't like to hear the truth.
They won, suck it up. it’s just baseball.
Yeah it's baseball. The National Pasttime. The Quintessentially American Game. Apple Pie, Mom, and Baseball.
All of which has been sullied by Tony LaRussa.
He's a cheater. Suck it up and deal with it.
A game. Just a game. Nothing quintessentially anything about it. Especially now that both NASCAR and the NFL have better ratings
You keep insisting La Russa is a cheater but there’s no facts. Heck I even googled it, all I got was the codes to his old Sega Genesis game. So it looks like you’re obsessed and ranting like a pathetic fool, and La Russa is a winner.
Get over it, get over yourself, stop acting like a dink. It’s pathetic. If you must be a fool over this do it drunkenly and out of the public eye, the way real men have always handled disappointment.
Of course, we know that McGwire later admitted to using PED's.
Jose Canseco, who has been nothing but right about PED's in baseball, said this about LaRussa's denials that he, LaRussa, did not know about McGwire's cheating:
"That's a blatant lie," Canseco said. "Tony La Russa was quoted as saying that I was using steroids back then, and I was talking about it in the clubhouse, openly. That's a blatant lie."
“would your friend have been welcomed there with a Rangers jersey?”
In Philly, or Chicago, or NY, or SF, I think my friend would have ended up in the hospital, or dead.
I’ve been reading how bad my Rangers choked, and what a horrible series it was, but I don’t see it. Any series that goes 7 can’t be a bad one. :)
You know nothing of true baseball pain :-) Try being a Royals fan for the last 26 years.
You’re really complaining about the steroid era NOW?!!?!?! That ship sailed. Where were your complaints 20 years ago when baseball first chose to not make them against the rules? Or 10 years ago when they made them against the rules but with no testing? The MLB, the PA AND the fans chose to accept the steroids for nearly 20 years. If you stuck with baseball through it then this is the bed you CHOSE to sleep in. Suck it up. The steroid era happened, you encouraged it, and now some of the big participants got another ring.
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