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Path to the nomination: Did Cainís end yesterday?
Washington Post ^ | 08:45 AM ET, 11/01/2011 | By Jennifer Rubin

Posted on 11/01/2011 7:09:51 AM PDT by DBCJR

Herman Cain was in the center of a firestorm, largely of his own making, yesterday. He knew before he entered the presidential race that he had a sexual harassment settlement in his past. He knew, ever since Politico started questioning his campaign, that a story was afoot. He knew he had to get the story out quickly and truthfully. And yet, by the end of the day, the business executive peddling his leadership skills and know-how looked somewhat like the hapless PBS executive who eventually got ousted for screwing up the Juan Williams firing.

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Iowans don’t need to believe he is innocent of sexual harassment to vote for him. But they do need to trust him. Virtually everything that happened yesterday with regard to this issue served to damage his trustworthiness. Beyond the point of no return? We’ll find out.

This should serve as a warning to all the vanity candidates (i.e., those without experience who run essentially as celebrities) in this and future cycles: A presidential nomination process is brutal and serious stuff. If they think there is no downside to competing, they are wrong. They may, at the end, come out diminished people, less respected and liked than when they went in.

Some people call this unfair and harmful to our political process. I disagree. If unserious and ill-prepared candidates try to take the voters for a ride, don’t bother to understand the issues or even their own weaknesses, they pretty much get what they deserve. And if voters bury their heads in the sand and vote for them anyway, they deserve what follows as well.

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Seems to me that the early development of a pattern can be detected with the sexual harassment allegations vs Cain.

A similar thing happened to Clarence Thomas. Old, unproven allegations resurfaced with a vengeance.

Juan Williams, a black Democrat political analyst, recalls the Thomas witch hunt saying how vicious they were. He worked at an agency and was contacted during that search for dirt.

Liberal attacks against all conservative black men is, in fact, racist. Such action unveils the old fashion prejudice of days gone by that black men cannot control their sexual urges. Such a notion was at the core of some of the most heinous lynchings of black men for white rapes.

We see this same despicable dual standard and scapegoating in white Bill Clinton getting a pass, "It's only sex."

Liberals are the racists, not only seeing black men as animals incapable of controlling their passions, but viewing blacks as incapable of competing on a level playing field as evidenced by Affirmative Action.

Holding blacks down and keeping them dependent, "on the plantation", is necessary for Liberals to maintain their coalition of power. Herman Cain, as a successful, self-made businessman, represents a major threat to that Liberal coalition.

1 posted on 11/01/2011 7:09:52 AM PDT by DBCJR
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To: DBCJR

We’ve been down this road before...


2 posted on 11/01/2011 7:11:17 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: DBCJR

The Post is thinking wishfully, as usual.


3 posted on 11/01/2011 7:12:49 AM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: DBCJR

One can question whether or not Cain ever really had a path to the nomination. But his poor handling of the charges didn’t help his case at all.


4 posted on 11/01/2011 7:13:01 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: DBCJR
The Washington Post thinks it's still calling the shots.

Isn't that cute?

5 posted on 11/01/2011 7:13:10 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Jennifer Rubin, the WaPo's in-house supposedly "conservative" blogger..with her latest attempt to see that Mitt gets the nomination...

BTW..she's NO conservative..have you ever seen a pic of her. NOT attractive...Conservative women are all gorgeous..

6 posted on 11/01/2011 7:13:45 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: DBCJR

Bias, media is thy name.


7 posted on 11/01/2011 7:13:56 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: DBCJR

I can recall two quotes from Larry Elder’s “The Ten Things You Can’t Say In America:

“Blacks are more racist than Whites”

“White Condescension is Worse than Black Racism”


8 posted on 11/01/2011 7:14:50 AM PDT by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: DBCJR

This is all to trumped up but THIS from the WaPo article make me laugh
“If unserious and ill-prepared candidates try to take the voters for a ride, don’t bother to understand the issues or even their own weaknesses, they pretty much get what they deserve. And if voters bury their heads in the sand and vote for them anyway, they deserve what follows as well.”

THAT describes the vile POS 0dumbo to a T


9 posted on 11/01/2011 7:14:50 AM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: DBCJR
if voters bury their heads in the sand and vote for them anyway, they deserve what follows as well

Kind of explains Zero being elected....

10 posted on 11/01/2011 7:15:00 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Obama's presidency is shovel-ready; let's bury it in 2012!)
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To: DBCJR
I think there is some truth in this piece. I think Cain's handling of the matter was possibly less than it could have been. But I also think that is a tack taken by those who want to hype the story without supporting the actual allegation.

I also think Cain will not lose a single existing supporter over this. Will anyone remember this in 63 days? I am not so sure. Memories are short.

This may give large donors pause, but I am not sure Cain has many of those anyway.

11 posted on 11/01/2011 7:15:49 AM PDT by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: DBCJR

They really fear Herman Cain.

Too bad Mr. Cain caused himself minor damage yesterday. Early on Fox, he had no idea about settlements, or the specific complaint. Later on Fox, he had details. Just not well played.


12 posted on 11/01/2011 7:16:36 AM PDT by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: DBCJR

Absolutely excellent that the MSM is asking itself if its own tactics worked yesterday. Too bad Mr. Cain didn’t snort coke while exposing himself to an intern in the Oval Office then driving her and dumping her body into a drainage canal. Then I guess he’d be “cool”.

If the GOP doesn’t figure out a way to harness this incident into a teachable moment, they are absolute morons.

My concern is that this didn’t come from Democrats.


13 posted on 11/01/2011 7:16:43 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Madoff screwed the rich. Bernanke screwed us all.)
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To: DBCJR

I watched Herman on Greta last night, he was 100% open and honest. This article is used toilet paper.

also watched the politico “reporter” on CNN. He was being so sneaky and evasive, even Anderson Cooper was reacting to the refusal to answer questions.

For example, Politico will not state the details of the complaints, probably because they were as ridiculous as the one Cain revealed.


14 posted on 11/01/2011 7:17:07 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: DBCJR

Those jungle bunnies just can’t keep there junk in their pants, can they Jennifer Rubin? Thank heavens the civilized world has you and the fair-skinned boys at Politico to keep these animals in their place.

Yeah, his nomination is over. I think I’ll send him another hundred bucks anyway... just because you’re starting to piss me off.


15 posted on 11/01/2011 7:17:41 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: DBCJR

Nope, they probably just guaranteed him the nomination.

The smear merchants have no clue what they have unleashed with these lying scumbag attacks.


16 posted on 11/01/2011 7:18:01 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: ken5050
Ewwwwwwww! You have a point! She looks like every other libtard woman to appear on "Book TV" on CSPAN.
17 posted on 11/01/2011 7:18:07 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: ken5050

You are really an awful person to be believing that only attractive woman deserve to be conservatives.

Re-read the post. IT can help you think straight.

Cain is a good guy. But, he is so underprepared for the campaign. His bumbling all day yesterday is the bigger issue. And, the author is making that point.


18 posted on 11/01/2011 7:18:08 AM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: Huck

We’ll remember in 63 days, because it will be repeated over and over in every story about Cain by the leftist media and Rove regardless of the validity . Just like Rove is still bringing up minor flaps about Cain from 5 months ago while ignoring Romney’s disastrous turn against the Ohio Republican union bill and his flip/flop/flip on global warming.

The DC beltway media is so predictable, but unfortunately also can be quite effective.


19 posted on 11/01/2011 7:20:01 AM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: indianrightwinger

This will become a full-time drama in which, at best, Cain may be thought to be an incompetent crisis manager and, at worst, a creep and a liar


20 posted on 11/01/2011 7:20:30 AM PDT by bt579 (If you voted for Obama to prove you werent racist, vote someone else 2012 to prove ur not a Idiot)
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To: DBCJR

Yawn. If the libs at the WaPo think they’re gonna pick my candidate for me, they’re quite mistaken.


21 posted on 11/01/2011 7:20:30 AM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: DBCJR
Hell no! His opposition crippled itself by revealing exactly what it is!
22 posted on 11/01/2011 7:21:15 AM PDT by Savage Beast (A backwoods southern lawyer is a safer trustee for your soul than a Washington politician.)
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To: SoJoCo
Try actually being honest for once.

Cain handled these fraudulent accusations masterfully. The smearbots so overplayed their hand on this and it is biting them big time

Sorry the facts hurt your feelings for your candidate but the facts don't change just because they do not validate your feelings.

Try actually looking around at what is going on. There is a huge upswing of support for Cain on the right from Sean Hannity to Rush Limbaugh.

23 posted on 11/01/2011 7:21:31 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: brownsfan
Cain is not a scripted candidate. He is a 'what you see is what you get' kind of person. He is not the least bit manipulative and people are hungry for that kind of honesty.

During the day yesterday, as things developed, he apparently tried to reconstruct what had happened in his mind and the story developed accordingly.

No damage done.

24 posted on 11/01/2011 7:21:39 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: DBCJR

WaPo, I’ve got four words for you: Bill Clinton, John Edwards.

Glad to know that you feel that rumored sexual innuendoes outdo Lewinski jobs/and a paid off rape accusation on Clinton, and a mistress-child for Edwards.

Your dog not only fails to bite, it cann’t even bark.


25 posted on 11/01/2011 7:21:50 AM PDT by Da Coyote (Ngs)
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To: Da Coyote

put some ice on it


26 posted on 11/01/2011 7:22:36 AM PDT by preamble
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To: NRA1995

For 0bama, I think most of his voters had their head buried somewhere else...


27 posted on 11/01/2011 7:22:36 AM PDT by therightliveswithus
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To: DBCJR

To Cain’s supporters, these scurrilous charges are a transparent smear. The concern has to be how they affect his electability in the general population.

The Post is loading its cannons for the possibility that Cain will get the GOP nomination. If they are worried about floundering, week-kneed “leaders,” they need look no further than the champion they endorsed for the White House.


28 posted on 11/01/2011 7:23:09 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: DBCJR

What happened yesterday, is that I was motived to put a Cain bumper sticker on my car first thing this morning. Literally.

This sort of crap doesn’t work anymore.

In fact, it’s counter-productive for the left.

Go Cain! :D


29 posted on 11/01/2011 7:23:16 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America First)
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To: DBCJR

No, but Romney’s ended in 2008.


30 posted on 11/01/2011 7:23:21 AM PDT by dforest
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To: bt579

No what has happend is the slime merchants like you, and the rest of the GOPbot media, have been exposed. Take a look around.

This is biting you smear clowns right on the butt. Everyone from Sean Hannity to Rush Limbaugh spend time every day attack YOUR clown behavior and defending Cain.

This is so destroying you GOP smear bots.


31 posted on 11/01/2011 7:23:21 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: DBCJR

Listening to the radio right now (WMAL) and a caller saying that she sent him a donation yesterday. She says the accusations are ridiculous.

I don’t think Herman has to worry. This is backfiring on whoever started it.


32 posted on 11/01/2011 7:23:58 AM PDT by sneakers (EAT YOUR PEAS!)
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To: DBCJR
Path to the nomination: Did Cain’s end yesterday?

..ask Justice Thomas...

33 posted on 11/01/2011 7:24:36 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: indianrightwinger

Nice you have feelings. Please stop stating your emotion based feelings as facts. That is utterly chilidsh.

Try actually making a case FOR your candidate for once instead of posting silly personal attacks at Cain.


34 posted on 11/01/2011 7:24:48 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: DBCJR

His campaign received double the contributions it normally does yesterday. I suspect people see this for the hatchet job it is and his hesitation a natural response to the gag order he and the purported victims are under.


35 posted on 11/01/2011 7:25:48 AM PDT by Ingtar
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To: ken5050

I think she was the one on Hugh Hewitt’s program yesterday. They were giddy with the possibility of a potential Cain meltdown.


36 posted on 11/01/2011 7:26:19 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Huck

I disagree. Experience tells us that the more you get bogged down in answering allegations the greater the “Tar Baby” effect. Obama had serious questions raised in his campaign and simply laughed them off as beneath him to respond. It worked. Of course, MSM was on his side, too.


37 posted on 11/01/2011 7:27:11 AM PDT by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: RWGinger

I think she’s right, and as you say, it was true in the case of Obama, too. But much depends on the will of the press to make an issue of things, and in the case of Obama, they covered for him.

That said, one thing that Obama had a lot of experience at was politics. Not governing, not legislating, simply politics and running for office. So he knew how to ride things out, how to deflect things, and probabably also how to silence the opposition (he learned the game in Chicago, after all).

Cain has no political experience, except one failed run for office, and that is the thing that is showing. He had three weeks to do something about this, or at least to get his story straight, and he didn’t. To me, that says he probably reads FR and believes he can do no wrong. To believe his own publicity is a dangerous thing for any candidate, and if Cain wants to remain in the race, he’s got to be more objective and professionalize a bit. Maybe he needs to hire new managers or something.


38 posted on 11/01/2011 7:27:16 AM PDT by livius
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I wish I knew of a technology which would allow me to “unsee” certain images.


39 posted on 11/01/2011 7:27:22 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: brownsfan

Nice attempt at perpetuating the smear.

Cain was asked a question at a morning interview, he answered it. He was asked again at an evening interview at which he had more information. He did not “change his story” as you smearbots claim, he had more information at the 2nd interview.

So how about you try making a case for your candidate for a change instead of posting lying smears about the other candidates?


40 posted on 11/01/2011 7:27:29 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: indianrightwinger; ken5050

>>You are really an awful person to be believing that only attractive woman deserve to be conservatives.<<

Ken didn’t say that. He said all conservative women are beautiful, because beauty is not on the outside. It comes from within.

Indianrightwinger, don’t read into other’s posts what isn’t there.

From a “matronly but beautiful conservative”


41 posted on 11/01/2011 7:27:32 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Where’d you get your bumper sticker. I want one!


42 posted on 11/01/2011 7:28:06 AM PDT by sneakers (EAT YOUR PEAS!)
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To: SoJoCo

Nope, they probably just guaranteed him the nomination.

You smear merchants have no clue what you have unleashed in Conservative cirles with these lying scumbag attacks


43 posted on 11/01/2011 7:28:34 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

But, but, but there are some concerned FReepers here saying this is the end of the Cain Train? How can this be? It is going to backfire on those smear merchants.

Pray for America


44 posted on 11/01/2011 7:29:30 AM PDT by bray (Hope and Change is Dead and Gone)
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To: DBCJR

Jennifer Rubin presents the liberal slant: voters will vote for a person who engages in sexual misconduct (i.e.,g Bill Clinton), but not somebody who is evasive about it (as though Clinton’s evasions didn’t count after he was caught).

We cannot be hypocrites. We have to have our standards. If Herman Cain engaged in sexual misconduct, sexual assault (to include rape) and abuse of power, the way Bill Clinton did while Governor and while President, we cannot support him. On the other hand, if what we have are different sexual mores in the workplace, nothing objectively wrong. If, supposing he was informed that something he did was offensive, he apologized and didn’t persist in the behavior, then this would speak well about him, not badly.


45 posted on 11/01/2011 7:29:40 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: netmilsmom

:)

OK. Thanks! Although, the subsequent posting of Jennifer Rubin’s picture and claiming that how she looks proves she is a liberal does sound pretty awful to me.


46 posted on 11/01/2011 7:30:07 AM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: DBCJR
Nothing can hold back the Cain Train....
47 posted on 11/01/2011 7:30:08 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever ( Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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48 posted on 11/01/2011 7:30:48 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: bt579
This will become a full-time drama in which, at best, Cain may be thought to be an incompetent crisis manager and, at worst, a creep and a liar

Is that all you got? You wrote the same garbage on another thread.
49 posted on 11/01/2011 7:30:59 AM PDT by JacksonCalhoun (CT Yankee in NC Exile)
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" I am an American. Black. Conservative. I don't use African-American, because I'm American, I'm black and I'm conservative.

I don't like people trying to label me. African- American is socially acceptable for some people, but I am not some people."

~Herman Cain







50 posted on 11/01/2011 7:30:59 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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