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Is Socialism's True Father - Satan?
Canada Free Press ^ | Kelly O'Connell

Posted on 11/06/2011 1:07:59 PM PST by Olympiad Fisherman

Could Karl Marx and other foundational socialists, like Proudhon and Bakunin, have had a soft-spot for Lucifer? Would it even make sense to suggest anti-religious, godless persons could still salute Satan? This article is a brief investigation into whether socialism has any claim to fame as an ideology of not just atheists, but even diabolically minded people ...

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TOPICS: Books/Literature; History; Society
KEYWORDS: karlmarx; marx; satan; socialism
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1 posted on 11/06/2011 1:08:02 PM PST by Olympiad Fisherman
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To: Olympiad Fisherman
All right, I'll bite.


2 posted on 11/06/2011 1:10:50 PM PST by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

Socialism = idolatry. The government is the idol.

When you look to a government to provide your needs, rather than God, you violate the very first commandment, “Thou shalt have none other Gods before Me.”


3 posted on 11/06/2011 1:11:27 PM PST by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman
I was listening to Coast to Coast one time and the guest was some Lucifer worshiping Satanist. He went on to say how we need massive government micromanaging us. Of course he could be just another bitter atheist, but still the combo is there
4 posted on 11/06/2011 1:15:48 PM PST by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman
Could Karl Marx and other foundational socialists, like Proudhon and Bakunin, have had a soft-spot for Lucifer? Would it even make sense to suggest anti-religious, godless persons could still salute Satan? This article is a brief investigation into whether socialism has any claim to fame as an ideology of not just atheists, but even diabolically minded people ...
Despite what one might think, economics is not morally or theologically neutral. Every business action supports a certain economic paradigm and in doing so, supports a certain and specific theology. Every businessperson needs to understand that taking a specific economic position gives insight into your view of theology, morality and God. These insights must be addressed because it will affect how you run your business....For a business owner, it could be whether you maximize your profits or how you compensate your employees, issues like that....Economics is certainly not morally or theologically neutral. To take a stance as a Marxist, Keynesian, or an Adam Smith Capitalist reveals insight into your view of man, God and redemption....
....These truths are not the same as capitalism. Yet capitalism is the one economic paradigm that is most congruent with Calvin’s teachings and the Biblical economic “truths” I mentioned....Calvin believed wealth cannot be evil because God chooses to bless some with wealth. But, whether wealthy or poor, Calvin and the Bible exhort us to be content with our economic positions in life and to live a life following his word, not chasing after wealth....People who think of Calvin as equating material prosperity with eternal destiny are misreading him. But if someone is in difficulty, then maybe that is where that person needs to be in this life for the sake of his eternal life. That may be an expression of God’s will.
-- from the thread How theology ties into economics

5 posted on 11/06/2011 1:17:00 PM PST by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman
There is no doubt.

The great sin is Pride. Satan can get to us through many means, but Pride seems to be where we are usually most vulnerable.

Socialism is all about creating a perfect human society on earth. God, in his infinite wisdom, did not give us that -- but the Socialists will!! They know best, and they have the wisdom to make it happen!

Voegelin called it Immanentizing the eschaton.

6 posted on 11/06/2011 1:17:49 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (I won't vote for Romney. I won't vote for Perry.)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

yes.


7 posted on 11/06/2011 1:18:58 PM PST by ken21
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To: Olympiad Fisherman
You can't understand socialism, 0bama, Islam, or other phenomena of modern life simply in terms of economics. Read Marx & Satan by Richard Wurmbrand and you will realize that Marx's goal was not peaceful utopia, but violence and death (nihilism), which is in fact what Marxism has brought everywhere it has reigned. Socialism & Islam seem very different, but are allied because of one overwhelming common goal: both seek the destruction of Western Christian civilization.

That's why dopes who, like G.W. Bush and Rick Perry, think Islam is an honorable, peaceful "faith," have led us to disaster.

8 posted on 11/06/2011 1:22:45 PM PST by hellbender
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

Oh yes.


9 posted on 11/06/2011 1:24:52 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Pimp your blog for hits on Free Republic!)
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To: Alex Murphy
If we go with what the Bible favors in economics we'll go with a leveling wealth redistribution every fifty years as described in Leviticus 25:8-17 where in the year of Jubilee, accumulated land reverted to the original owners. The Bible certainly doesn't support godless Marxism, but it's not exactly an advocate for unlimited wealth accumulation through the market either.
10 posted on 11/06/2011 1:26:24 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

Hell yes!


11 posted on 11/06/2011 1:28:33 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: ClearCase_guy; Olympiad Fisherman
"The great sin is Pride. Satan can get to us through many means, but Pride seems to be where we are usually most vulnerable."

I believe Envy is tied with Pride. Just look at the OWS'ers. They have NO pride, but are full of Envy, which makes them violent.

12 posted on 11/06/2011 1:29:43 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Actually, you are wrong. If wealth reverted to the original owners, that would mean that people who made money initially and had the land could get it back. There is no way that could work today. Meanwhile, my many-times-great grandfather was left millions of acres of land by the Indians. Wish that reverted to me now!


13 posted on 11/06/2011 1:31:18 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

The father of socialism is altruism. The term altruism was coined by Auguste Compte, a french philosopher who was a socialist and a statist.


14 posted on 11/06/2011 1:31:30 PM PST by albionin
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To: NoGrayZone

I suppose that a better theologian than I, might argue that all sins are equally bad.


15 posted on 11/06/2011 1:32:52 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (I won't vote for Romney. I won't vote for Perry.)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

Easy question.

All socialists (communists) are satanists!

They believe in government instead of God. Washington is full of atheists who traded God for power.


16 posted on 11/06/2011 1:33:53 PM PST by IbJensen (The best thing you can do for the poor is not be one of them.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
If we go with what the Bible favors in economics we'll go with a leveling wealth redistribution every fifty years as described in Leviticus 25:8-17 where in the year of Jubilee, accumulated land reverted to the original owners.

More specifically, original ownership of one of the original plots of land within Israel's borders. There was no "wealth redistribution" per se. How many "original owners" do you think could have showed up to claim their chunk of land in the second Jubilee? At best, a claimant would have to prove lineage back to the original owner of said plot, and after several generations of dividing it amongst the heirs, the amount of land someone could legitimately (re)claim would end up as a token amount.

17 posted on 11/06/2011 1:34:30 PM PST by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
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To: Paved Paradise

Ping to post #17


18 posted on 11/06/2011 1:35:13 PM PST by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
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To: Paved Paradise

The land in Israel was originally distributed by families. Therefore, the Jubilee meant a levelling every fifty years per person. We should note that there was no prohibition against income inequality during the fifty years as long as the widows, the poor and the stranger were taken care of and God received his due, but in the long run, God’s ideal was that there be no perpetual rich or poor class.


19 posted on 11/06/2011 1:37:56 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

Thanks for posting this, it’s very informative.

I knew the Commies were godless, I never knew they were devil worshipers.

Good to know.

Their twisted beliefs are certainly manifest at the OWS nonsense.

But, of course, it is not nonsense. And I shouldn’t say it is. It is a war and we are their enemies.

The left will NEVER stop, not until they are crushed totally beneath the boot heel of history.


20 posted on 11/06/2011 1:38:25 PM PST by jocon307
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