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Lost Civilization Discovered in Sahara Desert
Fox News ^ | November 08, 2011 | LiveScience

Posted on 11/08/2011 5:37:12 PM PST by Pan_Yan

New evidence of a lost civilization in an area of the Sahara in Libya has emerged from images taken by satellites.

Using satellites and air photographs to identify the remains in one of the most inhospitable parts of the desert, a team from the University of Leicester in England has discovered more than 100 fortified farms and villages with castle-like structures and several towns, most dating between AD 1 to 500.

"It is like someone coming to England and suddenly discovering all the medieval castles. These settlements had been unremarked and unrecorded under the Gadhafi regime," said project leader David Mattingly, professor of Roman archaeology at the university. The fall of the regime has opened up Libya to more exploration by archaeologists of its pre-Islamic heritage.

These "lost cities" were built by a little-known ancient civilization called the Garamantes, whose lifestyle and culture was far more advanced and historically significant than ancient sources had suggested.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: garamantes; godsgravesglyphs; libya; sahara
There are some interesting pictures at the source.
1 posted on 11/08/2011 5:37:14 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping.


2 posted on 11/08/2011 5:37:44 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan
...Roman accounts that the Garamantes consisted of barbaric nomads and troublemakers...

Spin, the third oldest profession.

Thank you for posting this--very interesting.

3 posted on 11/08/2011 5:53:13 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Pan_Yan
The Garamantes may be "little known" to most, but are well known to the GGG'ers.

Interesting stuff. Thanks for the post.

4 posted on 11/08/2011 5:56:33 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Pan_Yan

for later


5 posted on 11/08/2011 6:04:29 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: skr; colorado tanker
Thank you for posting this--very interesting.

You're very welcome.

6 posted on 11/08/2011 6:06:35 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan
OH, I saw this on TV a few weeks ago! She who must be obeyed!!!


7 posted on 11/08/2011 6:07:52 PM PST by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: skr

Nomads and troublemakers? Ancestors of the Occupy crowd.


8 posted on 11/08/2011 6:08:44 PM PST by bleach (If I agreed with you, we would both be wrong.)
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9 posted on 11/08/2011 6:15:18 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: skr
It's ironic that the Romans referred to many others as "barbarians" when they themselves fed Christians to the lions or crucified them on crosses, but I guess they must have thought of themselves as most civilized.
10 posted on 11/08/2011 6:27:32 PM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: Pan_Yan
Oh...crap!


11 posted on 11/08/2011 6:37:47 PM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: I Drive Too Fast

>>>It’s ironic that the Romans referred to many others as “barbarians”

Didn’t the Greeks invent the word “barbarians” ?


12 posted on 11/08/2011 6:51:36 PM PST by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: Hop A Long Cassidy

Nope, the Romans coined it referring to the jibberish that the Romans heard when the Germanic tribes spoke, “bar, bar, bar, bar.”


13 posted on 11/08/2011 6:55:42 PM PST by DryFly
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To: Pan_Yan

The fall of the regime has opened up Libya to more exploration by archaeologists of its pre-Islamic heritage.


Rare-earth minerals cache. God, I’m cynical these days.


14 posted on 11/08/2011 6:56:31 PM PST by txhurl
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To: DryFly
It's already in Greek sources that predate any of our Roman sources. (Of course the Greeks regarded Latin as a barbarian language.)

Homer doesn't have the word barbaros but he does have barbarophonos, "speaking a foreign language," applied to the Carians, in Iliad 2.867. The earliest authors to have the word barbaros are the philosopher Heraclitus and the poet Aeschylus (in his play The Persians dated to 472 B.C.).

Herodotus mentions the Garamantes briefly a couple of times in his account of Libya:

4.174-175: Further inland, to the south of this region, in the part of Libya that is teeming with wild animals, are the Garamantes, who shun all human intercourse and contact. They have no weapons of war and no knowledge of ways to defend themselves. The Garamantes are the neighbors of the Nasamontes inland...

4.183-184: Another ten days' journey after Augila there is a third hill of salt, with water and a great many fruit-bearing palm-trees...A very large tribe called the Garamantes lives here. They put a layer of soil on top of the salt and so have land to cultivate...The Garamantes use four-horse chariots to hunt the cave-dwelling Ethiopians, because the cave-dwelling Ethiopians are the fastest people of any of whom we have been brought a report....Another ten days' journey further on from the Garamantes is another hill and water, again with people living in the vicinity. This is a tribe called the Atrarantes...

(Translation by Robin Waterfield, in the Oxford World's Classics edition.)

15 posted on 11/08/2011 9:21:30 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Hop A Long Cassidy

The Latin part of the origin is “barbarus,” but it came from the Greek “barbaros,” which means “foreign.”


16 posted on 11/09/2011 1:14:17 AM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: DryFly
Nope, the Romans coined it referring to the jibberish that the Romans heard when the Germanic tribes spoke, “bar, bar, bar, bar.”

Then why weren't they called bierbarians?

17 posted on 11/09/2011 1:19:50 AM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Hop A Long Cassidy; DryFly

Barbarian essentialy is Greek for someone who is not a member of a Greek city state


18 posted on 11/09/2011 3:00:51 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Ezekiel; DryFly

incidently the Polish word for Germans is Niemcy, derived from the word for “mumblers” as to the ancient Polanians it probably sounded like the germans were mumbling.


19 posted on 11/09/2011 3:05:15 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Verginius Rufus
They have no weapons of war and no knowledge of ways to defend themselves.

And for some reason they didn't thrive and spread over the earth?

20 posted on 11/09/2011 6:05:33 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

Interesting, thanks. Wonder what are the black spots on the second picture?


21 posted on 11/09/2011 6:10:30 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter
I think that's the vegetation. The drawing is overlapped on a satellite photo.
22 posted on 11/09/2011 6:23:29 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Cronos
The word for "German" (person or language) is similar in the other Slavic languages.

The Polish word for Italian (language) is something like wloski (there's a slanted line through the L), and the Polish term for Italy is Wlochy. This is related to words like Wallachia and Walloon and Vlach, and maybe to Wales/Welsh...ultimately derived from the term the German tribes outside the Empire had for the people who were subjects of the Romans. The Poles must have picked the term up from the Germans at some point and applied it to Italy.

23 posted on 11/09/2011 9:13:41 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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24 posted on 11/09/2011 7:25:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Pan_Yan

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Pan_Yan.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


25 posted on 11/09/2011 7:26:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Verginius Rufus
That's true about the origins of Włochy (włoski is the adjective :)
26 posted on 11/09/2011 8:52:20 PM PST by Cronos
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To: Pan_Yan

So they found it, any survivors?

Joking,.


27 posted on 11/10/2011 1:45:58 PM PST by GraceG
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