Skip to comments.Self-defense Devices Other Than Guns
Posted on 11/10/2011 9:07:50 PM PST by A Navy Vet
Things are getting dicey. While some States allow gun open carry and others allow concealed or both, many good folks just don't want to have to carry all the time.
While I wish all good citizens would carry, here is an alternative for those who still would defend themselves and those innocents around them.
Everything is a weapon.
One also has to be careful about carrying bladed weapons and laws involving that. In some cases, you could have less problems carrying a gun than a long knife. Pepper spray is an option that could cause some of the least legal issues.
The best thing is to know your local laws and become proficient with whatever you choose to carry.
A good Krav Maga class can teach you how to use almost anything as an effective defensive weapon.
A really ugly woman.
I’ve watched too many YouTube videos to consider using a stun gun for anything but inflicting pain on a sneering protestor.
My backup is a collapsible baton.
I liked the big guy, the Viet Vet in some campy old go back to Nam movie who carried a grenade around his neck. Said something like, “if I get bored, I’ll pull the pin and check out the other side.”
I personally like the “Blast Knuckles”. Once you wrap your fingers around the holes, it would be difficult for an assailant to take from you, unlike other stuns guns that can be knocked out your hand.
Tip: If you buy this device, use some white-out to paint the ON switch on the back since it is black and blends into the rest of the gun. Easier turn on. In case you missed the video, the trigger mechanism is in the pointer finger hole, after you turned the front switch on.
Of course you can always go taser if you want to keep a certain distance away from your assailant, but they are big bulky and you have to aim, and not something you carry in your purse or pocket.
Again, the “Blaster” item is legal in most States, with some restrictions. Check out your local laws, but this and other stun guns are excellent deterents if carrying a gun is not an option.
I like to throw knives :D
Up close and personal, I go for Sypderco Harpy.
For pesky dogs, bears, Occupiers, commies, and or hippies - Bear mace!
If all else fails - Tomahawk go!
That’s interesting...I live in IL (sadly, the last CCW holdout), and did not realize tasers are legal. Better hope our idiot legislature/governor don’t read this or they will be! Not as good an option in some ways, but better in others.
In the right hands this Khukuri is a prettu good substitute for a gun
Yep. But the mind is the best. If the mindset isn't there, nothing else will suffice.
“Mindset”. Have no clue what you mean.
Of course, if you're trained and practice. This article is for those who need self-defense without going through months of hand-to-hand and/or are older.
Excellent info. Thanks.
That’s my favorite weapon and tool.
Mindset is what makes everything a weapon. Otherwise everything is just another object.
“One also has to be careful about carrying bladed weapons and laws involving that. In some cases, you could have less problems carrying a gun than a long knife.”
Yes. Some States don’t allow carry for anything over a 6” blade...or is that 4”?
“Pepper spray is an option that could cause some of the least legal issues.”
I don’t believe “pepper spray” is a good deterrent. There’s been too many examples of intoxicated bad guys who kept on coming after getting sprayed. The historical example is Rodney King.
“The best thing is to know your local laws and become proficient with whatever you choose to carry.”
“A good Krav Maga class can teach you how to use almost anything as an effective defensive weapon.”
Yes, but what about us older folks who can’t train in that martial art? I’m 61 and don’t have the energy or strength for that type of training, much less a frail woman. Plus, it teaches you to maim, when you may only need to deter. A zap with a stun gun or taser will put the punk down, and give you the opportunity to run...that’s also something Krav Maga teaches. Who needs a lawsuit for putting out someone’s eye when you can just zap them and leave?
I remember than one! That was Tex Cobb as “Sailor” in the movie Uncommon Valor. Cobb had some great one-liners. My favorite being “Boy, you just bought the whole can of whup-ass!”
I used to have a couple (handy little items if you know where to hit). Also, was trained in a PR24 baton while Shore Patrol in the Navy. That's all good if you can use it like in the movies, but since most of us older or non-trained folks can't, zapping there ass actually works. They fall to the ground. Then beat feet! Ha!
I did a little research/testing of alternate self-defense products for my wife to carry from her car into work. After considering a couple of products and trying a few out, this is what I settled on:
This is a pepper gel that that is effective out to about 10 or 15 feet. I decided to go with the gel instead of the spray to minimize the risk of her getting blow back or if she had to use it in close quarters.
The gel completely coats the face and it will grind deeper into the skin when the bad guy goes to wipe his face. (I am taking them at their word, I did not personally verify that claim).
After the fact the product coats the skin of the bad guy(s) with a UV dye for later identification if necessary.
Wasp spray is an excellent deterrent, but never seen it other than a full size can. If they make it in a pocket size, please let me know. Although, if not careful, it could come back to you.
I get your point though. I have a pocket folder and pepper spray as firearms alternatives. A stun gun would definitely beat opening someone up with a knife and take less skill.
He means, you are mentally-trained to take out your opponent, without hesitation or concer for his well being.
I hear that a blue ringed octopus can inflict some serious damage.
You're welcome. Just look up your State laws and buy the "zapper" that you think works best. However, I will say again that tasers are too big and bulky. Look at the site. The stun guns come in all different sizes and configurations. Like I said above, I like the "Blaster Knuckle" because it is pocket size and once wrapped around your hand, there is little chance of anyone taking it from you. Just push the buttom, and down he goes. If not, he will at least back off in pain - time to let you get away.
Pepper spray and Tasers have both come a long way since Rodney King.
I can point you to a thread full of people who have ‘ridden the lightning’ and been OC’d, and they all say they’d rather be Tasered again.
Get some Fox Labs 5.3, and you’ll be good to go.
Although a venomous cone snail is more convenient to carry.
My friend has a 45 caliber air rifle that shoots 180gr bullets at over 750fps when filled to 3000psi. It is bolt action and it will shoot several rounds before losing a lot of it's oomph. We cast our own projectiles. It is not considered a firearm anywhere that I know of. The first several rounds all pack considerably more energy than a .22 cal rifle.
My friends has a different gun than the one pictured below. His has a larger air resevoir and it costs more. I couldn't find a picture online. I have never purchased anything from airgundepot.com, but included the link so you could see specs and approximately what they cost.
That was it! I couldn’t remember the name!
That was it! I couldn’t remember the name!
There is some controversy over the effectiveness of wasp spray to take down an opponent.
If you spray it the face, a good strong pepper spray will immediately blind the assailant every time. That’s a good thing.
thanks for the link
As an aside, I bet in many states the ‘Blaster Knuckle’, no matter its composition or purpose, falls under ‘brass knuckle’ laws. So double double check one’s state laws.
You are practicing zanshin.
I know of some women who carry a small nasal spray squeeze bottle, full of household ammonia.
Here in AZ where no permit CC is OK, Wife and I both carry .380 pistols with 13 rd hi cap mags.
I carry wasp spray in my Tahoe but this stuff looks better. I am going to order some. It will make nice gifts too LOL!
I did it automatically those two times when I was a kid. Since then I have consciously considered my surroundings in that light and taken note of the anecdotes others have told about weapons of convenience and how to use them. Tools dedicated to the task are great but it's good to consider alternatives.
She takes this when jogging because its easier to carry than the mace can.
Krav Maga is actually a very good art for people who aren’t strong. I’m a small woman, only took a few KM classes because it was too far away, but in terms of self defense it’s a lot more practical than most karate classes. And the instructors take your size and strength into account and teach you techniques you can actually carry off.
Anyway, if I ever have to fight, I’ll figure my opponent is deterred if he’s running away or incapacitated. Anything less than my utmost might not be enough, my utmost might not be enough, so why do less?
Best thing I ever learned from martial arts was that it’s better to avoid fights. Deterrence is awareness, trusting your instincts, avoiding risky situations, carrying yourself with alert confidence.
First LED setting is for 15 lumens, normal use ... then hit the switch for 200 lumens !!! to blind an aggressive individual, and if the situation continues to escalate, a solid rap to the forehead with the serrated/crenellated Strike Bezel will send enough blood pouring into the perps eyes to neutralize most events.
I like the fact that it won’t blow back in your face. A friends husband was out on the end of his drive and his dog was with him. A jogger ran by and I guess he thought the dog was going to chase him (it didn’t) but he sprayed the dog. It blew into the man’s and he had such a bad reaction his wife had to take him to the ER.
That gel thing sounds pretty good. My problem with pepper spray was about being an aerosol that could come back in your face or the wind blow it away from the attacker.
Does it shoot out in a stream like wasp spray? If so, that could be really nasty.
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