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Now That We've Crucified Every Candidate.... (Here's Your Chance FReeper Nation)
Personal Thoughts | 11-23-11 | TheRobb7

Posted on 11/23/2011 6:38:16 AM PST by TheRobb7

Now That We've Crucified Every Candidate, who are we gonna support?

Take a step back and think about it for a moment:

Romney? No, for reasons stated on this site and encoded on our DNA.

Paul? No, unless you're an isolationist.

Perry? Apparently not, since my fellow FReepers appear ready to kill each other at the thought of a Perry nomination.

Santorum or Huntsman? No, because they apparently aren't pure enough either.

Cain? Maybe, but many consider 999 to be 666.

Newt? After last night's debate, FR will lynch the man and serve him on their tables tomorrow...so, no.

That leaves Bachmann, who again isn't pure enough for my fellow FReepers.

So since we insist on nominating a Priest instead of a POTUS, my question to all here is this:

SINCE YOU HAVE CRUCIFIED EVERYONE ON THAT STAGE AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER.....WHO WILL YOU SUPPORT?

(or are we hoping that no one will have enough delegates heading into Tampa, thus giving us a nice little floor fight?)


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KEYWORDS: bachmann; cain; elections; gingrich; gop; hermancain; newtgingrich; perry; primaries; rickperry; romney
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Here's your chance ya'll.

I value your opinions.....that's why I'm asking.

1 posted on 11/23/2011 6:38:19 AM PST by TheRobb7
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To: TheRobb7

The one person who really ought to be on that stage is quietly watching this slow motion train wreck, while millions wish she’d reconsider her decision.


2 posted on 11/23/2011 6:42:59 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: TheRobb7

Cain, Bachmann, and Santorum are all good.


3 posted on 11/23/2011 6:43:33 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: TheRobb7

Cain

His economic plan, his empowerment instead of entitlement attitude, his ability to see a problem and attack it are why he still has my vote.


4 posted on 11/23/2011 6:43:58 AM PST by greatvikingone
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To: TheRobb7

I think a Cain/Bachmann ticket would be ideal.

Mix their fiscal and domestic strengths with Bachmann’s foreign policy prowess and they’d be great.

I personally think Bachmann should top the ticket but I don’t think she can be.


5 posted on 11/23/2011 6:44:02 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: TheRobb7

Newt.


6 posted on 11/23/2011 6:44:05 AM PST by Carry me back
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To: TheRobb7
You first. LOL.

Let's rip your guys/gal a new a$$ before I tell you who I like.

(I'm kidding)

People are really being over sensitive. We debate because we all believe in what is best for the nation. We are all on the same side with differing opinions. It's ok to disagree.

Avoid arguments of feeling. State positions, reasons and logic. Provide links when necessary. Avoid name calling and denigration of fellow FReepers (unless they say something really, really ignorant about support for Romney or Paul).

Eventually, we need to all line up, support and defend the nominee that wins the primaries.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Now let's get ready to ruuuummmmbbbbbllllllle.

7 posted on 11/23/2011 6:45:43 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals vote like clowns walking thru a minefield, oblivious to the consequences.)
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To: TheRobb7
This is part of the process.

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the chicken....errrrr, kitchen.

8 posted on 11/23/2011 6:46:50 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: TheRobb7

Speaker Gingrich is standing even more strongly on my list. Perry and Cain are there too.


9 posted on 11/23/2011 6:46:50 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Windflier

I’ve been thinking about that, but it would take a delegate shortfall heading into the convention to even make that a possibility.


10 posted on 11/23/2011 6:46:56 AM PST by TheRobb7 (OBAMA 2012: NO TAX LEFT BEHIND)
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To: TheRobb7
I value your opinions.

Thats clear from the way you phrased your question.

11 posted on 11/23/2011 6:47:43 AM PST by skeeter
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To: TheRobb7

I’d like to put Newt, Cain, Bachmann and yes, Huntsman in a blender and take out the good parts from each and discard the detritus.

Can I do that?


12 posted on 11/23/2011 6:47:43 AM PST by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: TheRobb7
Santorum or Huntsman? No, because they apparently aren't pure enough either.

My opposition to Huntsman is that he was Obama's bootlicker. Being a sponge-spined RINO is bad enough, but actually serving in the enemy camp is simply unacceptable. During the presidential debates, Obummer would simply ask, "If you think my policies are so bad, then why did you work for me?"
13 posted on 11/23/2011 6:47:46 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: TheRobb7
Think people upset about this vetting of the candidates might want to listen to Newt Gingrich's words on the issue.

"In the next three weeks, I predict to you we will have all sorts of questions about me. And it's fine. You can not ask the people of the United States to loan you the most powerful governmental job in the world, particularly in a campaign that's promising very dramatic change, and not have them vet you carefully and thoroughly," Gingrich said.

14 posted on 11/23/2011 6:48:05 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: TheRobb7

I wanted Sarah Palin, I will support Herman Cain and Michelle Bachmann. None of the rest give me any feeling of enthusiasm. I will say that I will not support Mr. Romney, I’ll still vote but I will not vote for President at that point.


15 posted on 11/23/2011 6:48:54 AM PST by The Working Man (The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
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To: TheRobb7

Romney is a liberal - NO
Hunstman is a liberal with a softer voice - NO
Paul is an anti-Semitic isolationist - NO
Cain - ?
Perry - ?
Santorum - I like the guy but no
Bachman - Great qualities she just rubs me raw - probably not
Gingrich - ?
Today Nove 23, 2011 at 640 AM PST - who knows what tomorrow will bring.


16 posted on 11/23/2011 6:48:59 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: TheRobb7

The crucifixions that you speak of are the reason I don’t come here (FR)much anymore.


17 posted on 11/23/2011 6:49:09 AM PST by Ditter
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To: TheRobb7

While we might not agree with every candidates opinion, we whould all agree that it’s better than what we have now.


18 posted on 11/23/2011 6:50:12 AM PST by mikefive
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To: TheRobb7

This is our chance to show the candidates that we’re not going to take any of their carp when he or she becomes our President.


19 posted on 11/23/2011 6:50:35 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Tenacious 1; All

Let me try this again:

I wasn’t trying to insult my fellow FReepers.

NO way no how!

For the record (you can trace my posting history) I do like Cain and was leaning Newt.

I had a place in my heart for Palin and was hurt by her decision....but I moved on.

I’m wishing Bachmann would gain more traction, but if you had to nail me to the floor right now, it would be Cain.


20 posted on 11/23/2011 6:50:41 AM PST by TheRobb7 (OBAMA 2012: NO TAX LEFT BEHIND)
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To: SumProVita

Agree 100%


21 posted on 11/23/2011 6:52:04 AM PST by tatown
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To: TheRobb7

I would support Mickey Mouse against Obama if he was the nominee. Inasmuch as the nominee will most likely be decided before my states Primary, I will support that nominee whoever he or she is. Those of you voting in States that may decide the nominee I would advise to answer the question”who has the best chance of beating Obama” and that is where your vote ought to go. This is one year where for the sake of the Nation, beating Obama is more important than ideology.


22 posted on 11/23/2011 6:52:11 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: TheRobb7

Many here are waiting for the orders from on high on who to support. Memories of Giuliani, not W then yes W, no McCain then McCain are still fresh in FReeper minds.


23 posted on 11/23/2011 6:53:34 AM PST by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: TheRobb7

Many here are waiting for the orders from on high on who to support. Memories of Giuliani, not W then yes W, no McCain then McCain are still fresh in FReeper minds.


24 posted on 11/23/2011 6:53:41 AM PST by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: TheRobb7

I am supporting Rick Perry because, out of all the GOP candidates, he has the most executive branch experience (12+ years), has governed one of the largest states in the union, Texas has created more jobs than any state in the union combined, supported the Tea Party before there was a Tea Party, is solidly socially conservative, has an amazing economic plan, basically wants to apply the Texas model of government to Washington DC (works in Texas, would work in DC!), can deliver fiery speeches and is JUST PLAIN AWESOME!

FREEDOM, PROSPERITY, RESPONSIBILITY: RICK PERRY, 2012!


25 posted on 11/23/2011 6:54:13 AM PST by wk4bush2004 ("FREEDOM, PROSPERITY, RESPONSIBILITY: RICK PERRY 2012!")
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

You speak truth.

Last time the McCain comeback was complete before I had a chance to vote, also (tennessee). So i tried to spread the delegates around in hopes of denying a first-ballot victory to McCain (TN does it that way in the primaries).


26 posted on 11/23/2011 6:54:59 AM PST by TheRobb7 (OBAMA 2012: NO TAX LEFT BEHIND)
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To: Texas Eagle
This is our chance to show the candidates that we’re not going to take any of their carp when he or she becomes our President.

Take my carp, please. ;-)

27 posted on 11/23/2011 6:55:07 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: TheRobb7

Huge point you made there. NOW is the chance, before Iowa, to coalesce. If we don’t make dang sure that Iowa and SC bring out one strong non-Romney, we have to send a ton of money to him or her now. Or soon. Seriously.

We don’t have a Perfect Candidate. They don’t exist, and a lot of good people don’t want the job.

One of this pack is strong, conservative, and a refreshing outsider, and that is Herman Cain. He is bold enough to stand up to the media, and he’s proved that. He can do what we want, which is to tell and show Americans that constitutional conservatism works best for all Americans to have a chance at a good life.

Perry and gingrich have too much pity for bad guys. According to their stance on illegals, if they find a terrorist who’s had a family, or who’s been here a long time, why, it would be cruel to remove him from his family. Good thing they weren’t at osama’s compound with seal team 6.

Seriously, Cain could beat Obama. He is more real and likable than Obama. There is the same race so that becomes moot for all but liberals. And it’s the apolitical ( better term than independents) whom we need to convince. A lot of them have been hurt by Obama.

I think Cain is our best shot at besting Obama.


28 posted on 11/23/2011 6:57:38 AM PST by Yaelle (Herman Cain: the clever conservative with cojones.)
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To: TheRobb7

Wow...yet another Rodney King, “can’t we all get along” vanity. Why? Just because Newt exposed a stance on amnesty that many of us have been pointing out for weeks? Well it’s out now. So take a look at his global warming stance, pimping of WTO, NAFTA and GATT, vote in favor of Carter’s Dept. of Education (one of only 29 GOPers - most of them N.E. RINOs), pimping of Alvin Toffler’s one-world, anti-Constitution “Third Wave”, and on and on. Newt’s honeymoon is finally over. Let the truth come out.


29 posted on 11/23/2011 6:57:45 AM PST by montag813
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To: andy58-in-nh

Damn.
Now,
THAT’S a load of carp.


30 posted on 11/23/2011 6:58:01 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: TheRobb7

Unless someone emerges from the fog..extremely unlikely.

So, by process of elimination.
Remove the people who probably should be democrats (Huntsmen , Commie Rommie, and blue dog Perry) and Libertarian and or strange (Paul)
and or the candidate that have not gained any traction.
Bachmann and Santorum. ( possible VP’s?)
We are left with Newt/Cain or perferably Cain/Newt.

Thanks and good luck America.


31 posted on 11/23/2011 6:58:09 AM PST by Leep
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To: cripplecreek

Yesterday Beck essentially endorsed Bachmann because of a personal conversation he had with her the night before. I don’t know what she told him to have him discount the fact that Cain was the only candidate to attend his “Restoring Courage” event in Israel. But I am not comfortable to just take anyone’s word on who they support and until he gives us an accounting on what was said, I take it for it’s worth in that it means something, but not everything.

With that said, I am uncomfortable with her campaign jumping on anything any of the others say at a debate and have already put out a position before she even leaves the stage. She is not obviously calling the shots for the campaign because they are not permitted to have their smart phones to be tweeting during the debates. I see it as Ed Rollins still lurking behind the scenes while one of his chosen ones actually does his bidding for him. I do not trust Ed and never will.

Either way, Bachmann or Newt would be a good second fiddle to a president who would administer and not rule. Cain is the ONLY outsider with no political chits to pay off and I feel for this reason alone, with his business success background of results, will be the best administrator who knows how to collect the necessary information to make a non-political decision. The days of politics are behind us with only hard decision making to get us beyond the stat we are in today.


32 posted on 11/23/2011 6:58:09 AM PST by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: TheRobb7

Cain and Bachman are the best so far...


33 posted on 11/23/2011 6:58:12 AM PST by Eye of Unk (E-Cat is the future, unless we want to live in the past.)
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To: Yaelle

Cain is a nivr guy, but he isn’t ready for “prime time”.


34 posted on 11/23/2011 6:59:39 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: MrEdd

Only one has the numbers to make it happen.

Cain for me.


35 posted on 11/23/2011 6:59:55 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I know I will be flamed, but I disagree with that premise. I would rather see Obama in office as a clear enemy than someone that is an “Obama Lite”. The USA can survive the ONE. It it comes to bullets, so be it, but it is time for a clear change.


36 posted on 11/23/2011 7:00:11 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: montag813

“Let the truth come out.”

OK, cool. Now that it has, who has your support?


37 posted on 11/23/2011 7:00:26 AM PST by TheRobb7 (OBAMA 2012: NO TAX LEFT BEHIND)
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To: svcw
Santorum - I like the guy but no ...

I agree with that. Here's a VDH analysis that I think nails the reason why: Rick Santorum does great when he answers directly the question asked. The more he avoids attacking others, or curbs his exasperation that his often superior answers don’t lead to political traction, the better he does. But somehow such an experienced and knowledgeable candidate always seems frustrated to the point of vexation.

38 posted on 11/23/2011 7:00:28 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: TheRobb7
Rob,

Simma down, now.

Your post is the reason so many get worked up. Discuss it. Don't shout it.

Capital letters and exclamation points incite others to use more capital letters and exclamation points. Before you know it, one FReeper is calling another TURDBREATH.

After that, its a WWE Raw mud slinging slur fest.

I like Cain. I like him because he is not a politician first. He is articulate. He is honest. He likes pizza. He has not changed positions for political expediency. He “never slept with that woman.” And I don't know if 999 is the best we can do with the tax code. But it is better than what we have now. He needs a strong VP and SOS for foreign policy support.

39 posted on 11/23/2011 7:00:33 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals vote like clowns walking thru a minefield, oblivious to the consequences.)
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To: Gadsden1st

YIKES! Scary!


40 posted on 11/23/2011 7:01:38 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: TheRobb7
Santorum- Spoiled lil rich kid, northeasterner. Maybe a good VP.

Paul- I like his constitutional stands, Just plain wrong on Israel and Iranian threat.

Bachman- like a bad date that won't go away. Not ready for a woman POTUS. Crazy-eyed look on her face. Creeps me out.

Romney- Used car salesman! nuff said.

Gingrich- The monopoly game banker w/o the mustache. Flip flopper, major baggage, globalist.

Huntsman- Not so well scripted. Stars in his eyes. Doesn't truly believe what he speaks.

Perry- As a native Texan, hell no, we won't go! Perry's a political animal, self serving, Dem in Pub clothing.

Cain- Southern baptist preacher thang goin on. Like him, but not sure he'll stand up to the jive talker.

In the end, either would be better than O-freakin-bozo. I'm really no closer to a decision than a week ago, but if I had to throw it on the line....It would be Ron Paul.

Here is my reasoning. I am mucho concerned about the erosion of personal liberties in this country. I agree with Paul...we are broke!!! Let me repeat...broke, as a nation.

The major increase in spying on the American citizen is appalling. Almost feels like the citizens have become the suspects. I've always believed that you do not tread on the many to nab a few.

We cannot afford all the globe trotting. I also favor “America First”. Not understanding why this is isolationist. Haven't we given enough to the world? Our nation is hurting, it's time to get into bed, nurse ourselves back to health. A sinking lifeboat full to the brim cannot help anyone.

Paul's call for a 10% cut in government, cut federal agencies, cut over a trillion from the budget, turn over unconstitutional federal mandated programs to the states, cut off magnets for illegals....sounds good to me.

41 posted on 11/23/2011 7:01:50 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: Texas Eagle
Damn. Now, THAT’S a load of carp.

LOL. I was just fishing for compliments.

42 posted on 11/23/2011 7:04:31 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Yea, that’s it. Thanks.


43 posted on 11/23/2011 7:04:41 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: TheRobb7
Despite his stumble on immigration, I've decided to support Newt. We need a president who can get things done and doesn't need on the job training. Newt knows how to work with congress to get things done.

Even if we take the senate (which I think will happen), the prez will have to strongarm congress into getting an agenda passed, and I think Newt is the best guy for that job.

I was for Cain until I saw how he handled the sex scandal flap...has nothing to do with his guilt or innocence...I just think he mishandled it and I wonder how much he would stumble during the first couple of years as prez.

As I said above, we can't afford someone who needs on the job training.

44 posted on 11/23/2011 7:04:52 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: TheRobb7

I’ve voted for Rick Perry before.

I’d vote for him again.


45 posted on 11/23/2011 7:05:30 AM PST by evets (beer)
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To: TheRobb7

It’s Cain right now for me, although Paul is looking better.

Paul’s stupidity toward Islam and closeted anti-semitism are wrong, but those are not the biggest dangers our nation faces.

I have problems with all of them, but a big HECK NO for Willart, NOOT, Bachman, Santorum and Hunstsman.


46 posted on 11/23/2011 7:05:39 AM PST by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture....all should be preserved)
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To: TheRobb7
It looks to me like almost every Republican candidate has decided that the anti-illegal-immigration faction isn't worth courting. Sorry to be so blunt, but you know how heartless politicians can be :)

As for your question: I'm Canadian, and thus I cannot vote in any Republican primary. So I might as well stay 'indecisive'.

47 posted on 11/23/2011 7:05:48 AM PST by danielmryan
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To: andy58-in-nh
LOL. I was just fishing for compliments.

Well, I fell for it hook, line and sinker.

48 posted on 11/23/2011 7:07:40 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

I agree. We should let them keep their carp.

But we will take the women and children.

;o)


49 posted on 11/23/2011 7:07:58 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals vote like clowns walking thru a minefield, oblivious to the consequences.)
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To: whattajoke
Can I do that?

I've said the same thing, except I used Cain, Newt and Paul.

50 posted on 11/23/2011 7:08:07 AM PST by tnlibertarian (Things are so bad now, Kenyans are saying Obama was born in the USA.)
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