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GUT CHECK: Is America's Christmas about Christ? Or about buying imported communist Chinese crap?
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Posted on 11/26/2011 6:01:02 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network

Want to consider something for a change, rather than simply accept mass advertized "free trade" propaganda from Walmart during this season, to be buying crap made in China?


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I'm watching a colorized version of the "Big Red One" right now on the Military channel.

Watch it. And think about how it is America has come to have sent our manufacturing abilities, to Communists.

Don't think about watching it. Watch it.

And think how far we have fallen.

Wake up America. We are wildly, off course.

1 posted on 11/26/2011 6:01:03 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I see a definite silver lining in our crappy economy. Its forcing a lot of us to return to the true meaning of Christmas and take stock.


2 posted on 11/26/2011 6:02:45 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
God, you are so friggin' smart.

If only the world would listen to and obey you, all our problems would be solved and we could live in a Walden paradise in peace and prosperity forever.

And don't let anybody tell you anything different.

3 posted on 11/26/2011 6:03:17 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The very idea of a community organizer is to stir up a mob for some political purpose." Ann Coulter)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Every year I wish people I meet a merry Christ mass.


4 posted on 11/26/2011 6:03:49 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Get out there and buy something imported, citizen.

Don’t think. Just go.


5 posted on 11/26/2011 6:04:14 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Galts Gulch" <> Communist China)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Put a 100 percent tariff on Chinese slave-labor trash.


6 posted on 11/26/2011 6:05:58 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Are you suggesting that buying things from China has something to do with fealty to Christ?

Do you have something against pre-teen slave girls having jobs? lol... try to be humane and have a heart... lol


7 posted on 11/26/2011 6:05:58 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

We’ve fallen even further than you know.Fighting over a two dollar POS waffle iron?


8 posted on 11/26/2011 6:06:02 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Went to local pharmacy to buy my greeting cards for Xmas and Hannukah.

Looking through the Hallmark brand of Xmas cards, not a single one had a true “religious” message on the front cover. Not a single one.


9 posted on 11/26/2011 6:07:22 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander

Minor point.

It’s not Xmas.


10 posted on 11/26/2011 6:08:22 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Galts Gulch" <> Communist China)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Uh, is this satire?
Of course it’s about buying Chinese crap...duh....


11 posted on 11/26/2011 6:14:23 PM PST by matginzac
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Don’t think. Just go.

That's your department, Skippy.

12 posted on 11/26/2011 6:15:31 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The very idea of a community organizer is to stir up a mob for some political purpose." Ann Coulter)
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To: JerseyHighlander

Did you look under “X”?


13 posted on 11/26/2011 6:16:32 PM PST by bigbob
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That then would make your department “knee jerk”.

Suit yourself.

Just go buy something Chinese. It’s almost Christmas after all.

And we all know China is all about Christ, and religious freedom.


14 posted on 11/26/2011 6:17:46 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Galts Gulch" <> Communist China)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Get out there and buy something imported, citizen.

Don’t think. Just go.


That’s what the bought off Congress, Whitehouse and Wall St globalists want you to do. They want us to go to Walmart and buy some worthless piece of imported trash and put it on your plastic credit card too and pay the thieves 20% interest.

I’m old enough to remember when American husbands could support a family with a good paying factory job and have stay at home wife and mother who raised responsible children. We had a secure and strong and self sufficient USA. It was run by industry, not financiers.

That was before Hollywood libs and their commie peers in the media colluded on the destruction of the USA with the help of globalists and world immigration, all to the benefit of the commies in China.


15 posted on 11/26/2011 6:21:20 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You know China is really not communist anymore - not in the classic sense anyway. They allow private property, encourage capitalism, mostly allow their people to travel if they can afford it, etc, etc.

If anything, China is more a fascist state. They are totalitarian politically, but not a true repressive marxist/leninist regime in that there is growing economic and even personal freedom as long as you don’t challenge the state in any way.

You post about China and manufacturing a lot. Ever been there? It may not be what you think it is. It’s also a giant house of cards that is nowhere near as strong as you might think. Remember in the late 80’s when we were all supposedly turning Japanese and the rising sun was going to take over all manufacturing - how’d that turn out? A lost decade or two later and we’ve moved on to the next economic boogeyman. China is nowhere near as strong as you imagine it is.

Our manufacturing problems are largely of our own making. Too much government interference and unions that became too strong and destroyed or made uncompetitive everything they touched. If it weren’t China, manufacturing would have just moved more heavily to India, Indonesia or somewhere else. The problem is mostly one of failed American policy. You’d be better off advocating less regulation, lower corporate taxes and less unionization. Those are things we can actually do to become competitive instead of knee jerk tariffs and starting idiotic trade wars.


16 posted on 11/26/2011 6:22:05 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

Baloney.


17 posted on 11/26/2011 6:23:07 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Galts Gulch" <> Communist China)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
You just keep building them straw-men, Butch.

That's what you're good at.

18 posted on 11/26/2011 6:23:51 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The very idea of a community organizer is to stir up a mob for some political purpose." Ann Coulter)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Whatever.

America first.


19 posted on 11/26/2011 6:24:22 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Galts Gulch" <> Communist China)
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To: cripplecreek
iTS ABOUT BOTH. sorry for the caps. don't mean to yell...When my kids were small, I taught them about the birth of Jesus and since we cannot give him presents we give presents to others...sometimes it was taking childrens presents to the parish priest house to find some children to give them too...When they were adults I went to the office in the little town near by that gave out Christmas baskets for the poor than signed up. (and the woman in charge checked up to make sure they were needy) it was part of Project Hope program that a catholic priest started.

I would get the name of a family and the age and sex of the children and each one of my adult kids and their family were responsible for getting presents for the child who's name they picked...We did that until I sold the farm and moved away....

So you can have Christ and presents at the same time...

20 posted on 11/26/2011 6:25:43 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Oh, that's really gonna help.

You are a genius.

21 posted on 11/26/2011 6:25:56 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The very idea of a community organizer is to stir up a mob for some political purpose." Ann Coulter)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Kind of a false choice there. Most of the stuff I buy, just like all Americans actually, doesn’t come from China. But I’m not really into the whole religion thing, and half the people I’m buying gifts for are non-Christian of various flavors.

You gotta stop obsessing. It’s not all about China, and it’s not all about WalMart, and your one trick pony BS is tiresome, boring, and often times factually challenged.


22 posted on 11/26/2011 6:26:30 PM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: goat granny

You seem to have overlooked the “communist China” detail.

Why?

Is making jobs and import revenue for communist China part of Christmas now?


23 posted on 11/26/2011 6:27:33 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Galts Gulch" <> Communist China)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Just breathe. You don’t want inexpensive goods from China don’t buy them.
Christmas is what you make of it, apparently you want to make it about b#itching and moaning.


24 posted on 11/26/2011 6:28:19 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: discostu

You are in denial.

Have you been shopping in the last three years?


25 posted on 11/26/2011 6:28:25 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Galts Gulch" <> Communist China)
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To: JerseyHighlander

What’s an Xmas card and why would it have a religious meaning?


26 posted on 11/26/2011 6:29:29 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: JerseyHighlander

Make your own. You can find the programs to do that.

That is what the wife and I do. More fun to boot since you can make them more personal.


27 posted on 11/26/2011 6:29:54 PM PST by crz
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Shop all the time, and I read the statistics, which is why I know you’re wrong. And I’ve seen the threads enough to have seen the FACTS pointed out to you, but you ignore the facts, they don’t fit in your world. You’re the one in denial.


28 posted on 11/26/2011 6:31:21 PM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

My wife and I have it figured out. We give each other $500 in cash every year.


29 posted on 11/26/2011 6:31:56 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The latter.


30 posted on 11/26/2011 6:32:09 PM PST by logician2u
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Just go buy something Chinese. It’s almost Christmas after all.

If the Chinese product is a better value than the American made one, I will buy the Chinese one every time.

If your thinking prevailed, we'd still have the big 3 to chose from for automobiles. They'd still be crappy, poorly made junk because "our" companies would still be cozy with the UAW and would have never had any incentive to produce a decent vehicle that could compete on the open market.

The goal is to make America MORE competitive, not limit consumer choices in any effort to desperately hold back modernization and encourage bloated, inefficient labor unions to reign forever.

31 posted on 11/26/2011 6:32:21 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: discostu

In other words, you have not been shopping in the last three years.

Computers now are all made in China

Flat screen tvs are all made in China.

Almost everything in Walmart is made in China. Just about the only thing not yet made in China, is Zippo lighters.


32 posted on 11/26/2011 6:33:19 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Galts Gulch" <> Communist China)
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To: TBP
Put a 100 percent tariff on Chinese slave-labor trash.

That's a good idea...let's punish Americans by doubling their prices. Meanwhile, we can continue to send money by the buckets to DC.

33 posted on 11/26/2011 6:35:08 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: Longbow1969

Soon we will not have a big 3 to choose from.

We will have Cherry knockoffs of GM cars.


34 posted on 11/26/2011 6:35:47 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Galts Gulch" <> Communist China)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

See there you go again. The facts were pointed out to you but you just pretend they aren’t there. You’re just a liar. A doomsday crying freaked out liar spreading panic based on lies. Lies lies lies. Lots of stuff is made here, including flat screens, and computers, and about 2/3 of the stuff in WalMart. But I know you’ll ignore that and lie some more. That’s all you do. Every thread you find, spread your useless panic spawned lies.


35 posted on 11/26/2011 6:36:24 PM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: Cyber Liberty

The idea is to make the prices of Chinese slave-labor trash high enough that people will choose other products instead of the Chinese ones, thus taking dollars out of China’s pockets.


36 posted on 11/26/2011 6:37:04 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

And BTW, that may not be the best economic policy, but it’s necessary for national security and survival.


37 posted on 11/26/2011 6:37:50 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Outsourcing Americans’ JOBS punishes Americans.

Firing Americans punishes Americans.

What we’re doing now, punishes Americans.


38 posted on 11/26/2011 6:37:59 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Galts Gulch" <> Communist China)
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To: TBP

America will have collapsed by then.

We cannot race China to the bottom.

We will lose. Badly.


39 posted on 11/26/2011 6:39:07 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Galts Gulch" <> Communist China)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I am torn by this. Of course Christmas is about the birth of Christ. However, Christmas is an important time for stores. This is the day that they receive 75-80 percent of their yearly sales. If consumers did not buy during this time especially as much as they spend then we would not have many stores and of course workers would be fired. I think a little balance could be involved though.


40 posted on 11/26/2011 6:39:50 PM PST by napscoordinator (Anybody but Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, Paul. Perry and Obama are 100 percent the same!!!!!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Yes, I said forget it this year. A few books, some silver eagles, and that’s about it. My family is going to be shocked. Good.


41 posted on 11/26/2011 6:40:49 PM PST by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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To: TBP

It worked well in the ‘30’s.


42 posted on 11/26/2011 6:40:56 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

We should try to weaken China any way we can.


43 posted on 11/26/2011 6:40:56 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Actually, I’d prefer just to keep Chinese stuff out of our country.


44 posted on 11/26/2011 6:41:32 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: napscoordinator

So enact import tariffs and let Americans make Christmas presents for other Americans.

We are giving away our nation.

If we don’t stop it, the free world ends. Forever.

We’re the only thing standing between freedom, and slavery.

We’re it. Nobody will come to our defense.

Think about that.

We’re it.


45 posted on 11/26/2011 6:42:59 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Galts Gulch" <> Communist China)
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To: TBP
The idea is to make the prices of Chinese slave-labor trash high enough that people will choose other products instead of the Chinese ones, thus taking dollars out of China’s pockets.

Takes the Americans' hard-earned money right out of China's pockets...and sends them to Washington DC to fee the leviathan.

46 posted on 11/26/2011 6:42:59 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
What we’re doing now, punishes Americans.

So your solution can be best summed up this way: "We need to punish Americans again, good and hard?"

47 posted on 11/26/2011 6:44:34 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Well, no, not if it discourages them from importing the stuff so Americans can buy it. That’s what we need to be doing — finding a way to stop the flow of Chinese junk into our country.


48 posted on 11/26/2011 6:44:49 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP

It doesn’t discourage anything, it just makes Americans pay more for things. All things. And who skims the cream? Uncle Obama.


49 posted on 11/26/2011 6:46:52 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Baloney.

You really don't know what you're talking about do you?

Just admit it, you have limited knowledge on this subject and just regurgitate knee jerk talking points in sporadic vanity posts that rarely if ever display a learned understanding of the issue. The views you advocate on FR when it comes to manufacturing/tariffs sound right out of the union playbook. Bernie Sanders and Ed Schultz say precisely the same things you do. In fact, it sounds to me like you are in fact a union supporter.

Have you been to China? In what ways would you say modern China resembles a classic marxist/leninist state when it comes to economic policy? Were you aware that the Chinese provinces are deeply indebted and when the current spending spree ends (and it will end), the result is likely to mean the relative domestic peace Beijing has maintained through artificially increasing employment may will crumble. Do you really know anything about this topic other than the progressive left and protectionist right talking points?

Americans are never going to go back to being forced to buying overpriced union garbage. It's just not going to happen.

50 posted on 11/26/2011 6:47:02 PM PST by Longbow1969
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