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Who is Ginger White?
http://www.nydailynews.com ^ | BY Bill Hutchinson & Joseph Straw

Posted on 11/29/2011 4:59:06 AM PST by Lucky9teen

The Atlanta woman who says she was Herman Cain’s mistress for 13 years is a down-on-her-luck single mom who once sued a former employer for sexual harassment.

Ginger White surfaced in bombshell fashion on Monday, telling an Atlanta TV station that she’s “not proud” of what she described as long-running sexual shenanigans with the married GOP White House contender.

“I didn’t want to come out this way,” she said in an interview with Atlanta’s FOX affiliate WAGA-TV that put Cain on the defensive even before it was aired.

White described herself in the interview as a jobless former businesswoman. She is middle-aged, has two children and was evicted from her Atlanta home earlier this month, according to a background check done by the TV station.

WAGA reporters also found records showing she has been hit with several eviction notices in DeKalb County, Ga., over the past six years.

She filed for bankruptcy 23 years ago, the station reported. In 2001, she also filed a sexual harassment suit, which was later settled, according to the station.

Her former business partner, Kimberly Vay, once sued her and accused her of stalking, the station reported.

Vay, who did not respond to calls for comment Monday, also sought an order of protection against White, charging that she was bombarded with emails and texts “threatening [a\] lawsuit” and defaming her character.

A judge ruled in favor of Vay in a libel suit she had filed against White, the station reported.

White admits she has struggled as a single mother, but added that her financial woes shouldn’t define her.

“I don’t think that makes me out to be a bad person,” she told the station. “It makes me out to be one of the millions of people right now trying to keep a roof over their head.”

White said she ignored the fact Cain was married during their alleged affair, which she said included trysts in hotel rooms across the country. She says they met at a business conference during the 1990s.

“It was pretty simple,” White told WAGA. “It wasn't complicated. I was aware that he was married. And I was also aware I was involved in a very inappropriate situation, relationship.”

Cain, 65, who has been married for 43 years, went on CNN to deny the affair before White’s complete WAGA-TV interview was broadcast live.

His lawyer, Lin Wood, told the TV station that because White hasn't alleged harassment or assault, the matter doesn't belong in the news.

“The public's right to know and the media's right to report has boundaries and most certainly those boundaries end outside of one's bedroom door,” Wood wrote.

White said she came forward because she is upset over how Cain handled previous allegations that he sexually harassed four women, two of whom reportedly received cash settlements from the National Restaurant Association, where he was CEO during the 1990s.

“It bothered me that they were being demonized, sort of; they were treated as if they were automatically lying, and the burden of proof was on them,” White said. “I felt bad for them.”

Cain, the former head of the Godfather’s Pizza chain, was running near the top of the polls before the claims of sexual harassment broke.

Last week, Cain dropped to third place in a national GOP poll run by Quinnipiac University. He came in with 14% of the vote, behind ascendant former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

He said Monday he would stay in the race as long as he had his wife’s support. But White put even more pressure on him, offering what she said was proof of the alleged hush-hush romance.

She gave the TV station loads of cell phone records, and Cain’s personal cell phone, which he answered when someone from the station called it.

She also gave the station’s reporter two books Cain signed for her. In one of them, his 2001 autobiography “CEO of SELF,” Cain added a little note: “Friends are forever! Everything else is a bonus.”


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To: ken5050

Thanks. I just read it and a bunch of the responses. I’m really looking forward to how this one plays out, as I was with the others.


101 posted on 11/29/2011 6:36:36 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: luvbach1
I just don’t know.

Wow! That's a loooooong way from:

What about where there’s smoke...?

Silly me. My bad......./s

102 posted on 11/29/2011 6:38:19 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Wanna keep livin' with your momma? Vote for Obama. Tired of the pain? Vote CAIN!)
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To: cuban leaf
De nada...to me..that's pretty telling...that she got such a quick response from him..as you said...it will play out, but methinks that Cain's time is up...

Did you see the NR online poll..2:1 don't believe Cain..

103 posted on 11/29/2011 6:39:00 AM PST by ken5050 (Support Admin Mods: Doing the tough, hard, dirty jobs that Americans won't do...)
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To: ken5050

His responding to the text message hurts him. Sure, it may be innocent, but still...


104 posted on 11/29/2011 6:42:51 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: ken5050

His responding to the text message hurts him. Sure, it may be innocent, but still...

edit: I’d be really interested in knowing the content of the text message that prompted his response.


105 posted on 11/29/2011 6:43:43 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: lonestar

I don’t think you can say that we Cain supporters are in denial. I am sorely disappointed. Yes, about the affair if true, but two other things really bother me. If I decide to say, I don’t know his marriage, the troubles he’s had, if he lived virtually alone but didn’t want to divorce, and this was his only companionship,there are still things to affect me.

Why would this woman turn on him? I guess that answer would be money. But if he were a wonderful guy, why wouldn’t she just stay quiet and allow him to run for President?

And why, if you had a complicated marital situation, would you run for president as a conservative?

I do see serious character flaws here. How can he say he’s done nothing wrong? He knows that the general conservative public finds adultery wrong.


106 posted on 11/29/2011 6:43:43 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: dead
If you have an affair with somebody for 13 years, you should be able to come up with some evidence more solid than two signed books and some cellphone records.

Yeah, no kidding. Let's see the notes, letters, texts, emails, witnesses/receipts from the hotel trysts, etc.

Cain said when the details came out, we would see this was nothing, and until there is proof otherwise, I believe him. I believe in innocent until proven guilty.

I cannot believe how some here on FR cannot see what is happening to Cain. They have done the same to EVERY conservative they deemed a threat. They must be laughing their backside off at how easy conservative are to manipulate, all you have to do is hint of a scandal, you don't even need proof.

107 posted on 11/29/2011 6:44:10 AM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: midwyf

Yessirree....the Chicago gambits didn’t work when they tied Axelrod to the plan, so Obie’s war room figured they needed an Atlanta offensive.


108 posted on 11/29/2011 6:44:19 AM PST by chiller ( Elect another batch of TPartiers and it won't matter which R we elect. WE will lead.)
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To: cuban leaf
In politics we have to be more careful than that. In politics, often where there is smoke, there is a smoke bomb.

Yep. And smoke and mirrors sometimes too.

109 posted on 11/29/2011 6:45:27 AM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: cuban leaf

and some of the calls/messages were at 2am...not good..<P.
If you happen across any more interesting stuff..do ping me..


110 posted on 11/29/2011 6:45:28 AM PST by ken5050 (Support Admin Mods: Doing the tough, hard, dirty jobs that Americans won't do...)
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To: chiller

Ginger White’s attorney is a Democratic supporter! Over 4k donated to OBAMA

Search BUCKLEY, EDWARD

http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/norindsea.shtml


111 posted on 11/29/2011 6:47:36 AM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: icwhatudo
According to the article, she provided phone records to the news station that showed many calls from Cains private cell# with some occurring at 4 am and 6am.

I want to see actual text/email messages, not just a phone log. He doesn't deny knowing her, so that they would talk on the phone doesn't surprise me. If she has unimpeachable evidence, why didn't she show it to the reporter?

As for the 4 am calls - was that from her to him or vice versa? Also, of the 61 calls/texts, how many did she initiate vs him calling/texting her? The article I read wasn't clear on these points. These may seem like minor details, but they are important in determining the level of involvement.

As an aside: 61 calls/texts over a 4 month period doesn't seem to be that excessive.

112 posted on 11/29/2011 6:48:22 AM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: justsaynomore

“I cannot believe how some here on FR cannot see what is happening to Cain. They have done the same to EVERY conservative they deemed a threat”

they know exactly what is being done to Cain and are loving every minute of it because they believe it is helping their candidate whomever that may be


113 posted on 11/29/2011 6:49:02 AM PST by jneesy (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a mans character, give him power.)
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To: Yaelle

“I don’t think you can say that we Cain supporters are in denial.”

This one is certainly not in denial. If Herman Cain is the man these women are portraying him as, then he is the last man we want to put in office. Character does matter. But my Cain bumper sticker came off the car after that train wreck of an interview on Libya. Intelligence and judgment of the man with his finger on the button matters too. I’m afraid we are down to Newt and Mitt. Yikes!


114 posted on 11/29/2011 6:51:20 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: ken5050

as a DNC operative you can easily find his private cell number. You hire this woman to make a false accusation and give her the number to put into her cell phone.

presto.

she calls cain in front of the reporter and the illusion is complete.

She must have a really old cell phone.

everything about her screams hired gun.


115 posted on 11/29/2011 6:56:49 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Lucky9teen

The thing that bothers me is you could replace Herman Cain with the name Bill Clinton on every one of these articles and post date it to 1992 and it would read like a current event.

Candidate: Deny, deny, deny..

Campaign: Nuts and sluts.

That said, I do think a black conservative viewed as a threat to both parties and their carefully constructed power structures and socially engineered voter demographics.


116 posted on 11/29/2011 6:56:59 AM PST by IamConservative ("The ability to speak eloquently is not to be confused with having something to say." - MP Hart)
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To: Lucky9teen
she has been hit with several eviction notices in DeKalb County, Ga., over the past six years.

If she were the mistress of a wealthy man like Mr. Cain, wouldn't she have enough money to pay the rent?

117 posted on 11/29/2011 6:58:07 AM PST by iowamark (Rick Perry says I'm heartless.)
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To: jz638

I agree with this statement completely, our political system has become
PURE EVIL!!!!! This man has a wonderful family they do not deserve this
type of political terror. If this however IS true shame on him for putting his
beautiful family through this he had to know it would come out!!!!!!


118 posted on 11/29/2011 7:00:05 AM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: CAluvdubya
If he was helping her out he sure did a lousy job of it!

Perhaps she needs more help that he is capable of giving. Some people are so irresponsible with money that, short of paying all their bills, no level of support will suffice. Seems to me if she was his mistress he would have made sure she wasn't evicted from her apartments.

119 posted on 11/29/2011 7:01:25 AM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: PapaBear3625

Oh I don’t know- how many people run for office and then it is later discovered they had skeletons in their closet or they do something stupid like the Gov Sanford who left the country but said he was hiking for a few days. A few days of being MIA and the media found out he was having an affair with some gal in Brazil I believe....Now how stupid was Sanford to try and pass that off?

Look at Weiner- and all his lady problems...he knew he had issues for years but still ran for office.


120 posted on 11/29/2011 7:03:00 AM PST by Engedi (Hec)
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To: livius

Well stated. Time to let the Cain supporters have their time for Mourning.


121 posted on 11/29/2011 7:05:03 AM PST by annieokie
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To: jellybean
As an aside: 61 calls/texts over a 4 month period doesn't seem to be that excessive.

Good point. A call every other day on average. I could have 20 calls to/from a number in a day just playing phone tag.

There may be days with many calls, or there may be calls of long duration. 61 calls of long duration might be a concern, particularly if they were followed by a hotel reservation call when they were both in the same city.

No proof of anything. I said in an earlier post and I'll say it again:

It is not in my character to throw someone under the bus just because it is politically expedient.

The only way he loses my support is if he is PROVEN to be a liar. Otherwise this is all calumny.

122 posted on 11/29/2011 7:05:48 AM PST by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: RoosterRedux

WTH? Indeed.


123 posted on 11/29/2011 7:07:09 AM PST by annieokie
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To: RoosterRedux

Forget Herman, forget the contest for a minute. Lin Wood was the lawyer for Richard Jewell who was falsely trashed in the media during the Summer Olympics Bombing in 1996. Lin and Richard got loads of wins in court. I believe the Atlanta Constitution case still has not been tried (they delay because they’ll lose)....

My guess is that this legalese is prep work for a lawsuit against her and the TV station.


124 posted on 11/29/2011 7:07:46 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: NavyCanDo

I just ordered my Cain bumper sticker a couple days ago after I bout a new car. I won’t put it on at this point. If there is no corroborating evidence other than the books (not very intimate signings, but of course you wouldn’t sign “to the woman who sustained me all those long nights”) and the cell phones, I will give Herman another chance.

I do not want to let the MSM tactics win. This one seems different, though. The MSM can’t help it if they are lobbed softballs about horrible behavior from one of our frontrunners. Remember why Charlie sheen used hookers. So they’d leave and so they’d be quiet.

So even the thought of supporting him through this is troubling. I don’t want to be taken in by the media. Neither do I want to be taken in by the candidate I’ve supported through thick and thin so far.


125 posted on 11/29/2011 7:08:50 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: NavyCanDo
Me also..I'm surprised how many Cain supporters here are also in total denial. You think they woudl remmeber Reagan's watchword "Trust but verify"

But here's what's really irking me with Cain. Let's say that ALL these several "things" with women are completely innocent..He's running for the WH, for pete's sake..he has to know that they are going to turn his lfe inside out..and he failed to prepare, brief his staff..one could make a convincing argument that he's not prepared for day one on the Oval office..

126 posted on 11/29/2011 7:10:23 AM PST by ken5050 (Support Admin Mods: Doing the tough, hard, dirty jobs that Americans won't do...)
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To: Venturer
Thank you, Venturer! If she has proof, I want to see it.

The other ridiculous claims against him faded rather quickly when the defamation attorney was hired. They all went quiet; if what they were alleging was true, they would have forged ahead.

What concerns me, as a Cain supporter, is the attorney's response to this. Not too comfortable with that.

127 posted on 11/29/2011 7:12:58 AM PST by TheWriterTX (Rock you like a Herman Cain 2012)
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To: lonestar
There you go again.....

Hey lonestar,
which campaign do you support/work for cause your fat little digits have been typing fast and furious re: your serious problem/fascination with Herman Cain....look at all of your RECENT posts AGAINST Herman Cain.
Either you work for one of the other candidates or have a serious (DSM 4R)mental problem
with Cain.

Your recent (and updated hourly) anti Cain posts are found here

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:lonestar/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change

128 posted on 11/29/2011 7:13:08 AM PST by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: lonestar
There you go again.....

Hey lonestar,
which campaign do you support/work for cause your fat little digits have been typing fast and furious re: your serious problem/fascination with Herman Cain....look at all of your RECENT posts AGAINST Herman Cain.
Either you work for one of the other candidates or have a serious (DSM 4R)mental problem
with Cain.

Your recent (and updated hourly) anti Cain posts are found here

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:lonestar/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change

129 posted on 11/29/2011 7:13:56 AM PST by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: Nifster
I think it speaks to a kind heart ....

or, horny old man!

130 posted on 11/29/2011 7:20:22 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: TheWriterTX

If it true Cain is done for.

If it isn’t, and she deliberately collaborated with these other women to ruin his chance’s and destroy his life she and they should be punished.

If it is a lie he should use it as a tool to election.
He should find who put them up to it and hang the SOB.

I would want a hand on that rope myself.


131 posted on 11/29/2011 7:21:24 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Thermalseeker
""It's not the facts that matter, it's the seriousness of the charge." Hmm, where have I heard that before? I continue to be amazed at how easily Conservative opinion is manipulated by the media....."

There are 'conservatives' and then there are 'professing conservatives'.

The extreme right and the extreme left are merely flip sides of the same exremist coin. Both extremist sides exhibit a lack of emotional stability.

132 posted on 11/29/2011 7:21:42 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: cuban leaf
I love Cain but it troubles me that these weren't the words that immediately came out of his mouth (with smoke coming out of his ears):
This woman is a liar! We never had any kind of physical relationship at all! Period. Amen. She is categorically lying and so is anyone else who makes such claims. I have instructed my attorney to immediately file a defamation lawsuit against Miss White. She has attacked me and attempted to greatly harm my reputation and marriage. I realize that she does not have much money but a stand must be made and I make it today!.
133 posted on 11/29/2011 7:24:40 AM PST by Mr. Fabtastic (Cain is rapidly gaining on Fred Gwynne as my favorite Herman.)
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To: jneesy
...they know exactly what is being done to Cain and are loving every minute of it because they believe it is helping their candidate whomever that may be...

Pathetic and destructive, isn't it?

Kinda' like the Walmart black Friday shoppers running over people to get what they want... just collateral damage for their $3 waffle iron

...and a $3 waffle iron has as much chance of being elected president as the RINOs in this race.

134 posted on 11/29/2011 7:27:06 AM PST by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: Nifster
and her claims are not facts

Fact is...you don't know what the facts are!

135 posted on 11/29/2011 7:29:51 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: justsaynomore
"I believe in innocent until proven guilty."

Quite a novel position to take on this board. :) bttt

136 posted on 11/29/2011 7:31:21 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: Matchett-PI

Equally amazing is how easily Liberals are swayed to Liberalism, even after decades of one liberal failure after another......


137 posted on 11/29/2011 7:35:18 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Wanna keep livin' with your momma? Vote for Obama. Tired of the pain? Vote CAIN!)
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To: lonestar
Fact is...you don't know what the facts are!

Nor do you, yet you revel in the destruction of a man, an American, a person who has thrown his hat in the ring. A man who you must admit (since you don't know what the facts are), may be innocent of all of this.

Besides, should this story result in the end of the Cain campaign, your candidate will be next... and all it will take is someone to accuse your candidate of some indiscretion, true or untrue.

138 posted on 11/29/2011 7:36:12 AM PST by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: TheCause
I stand by everything I have said about Mr. Cain.

I really believe he has been in the POTUS race to get name recognition and make money. Serious candidates don't go off on book tours.

A member of Cain's staff has a history of campaign finance problems...banned in Wisconsin, I believe.

I really think that there is reason to suspect that you people who have sent him money have been financing a book tour and he has never intended to be a serious contender.

I think Herman Cain is on an ego trip on the Cain Train and I'm not going along for the ride! But, I am off on an over night road trip...will you miss me?

139 posted on 11/29/2011 7:39:03 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Never on my watch
A call every other day on average.

Actually the reporter lumps phone calls and texts together and doesn't differentiate the number of each from Herman as opposed to how many she originated:

She showed us some of her cell phone bills that included 61 phone calls or text messages to or from a number starting with 678. She says it is Herman Cain's private cell phone. The calls were made during four different months -- calls or texts made as early as 4:26 in the early morning, and as late as 7:52 at night. The latest were in September of this year.
A short session of texting back and forth could be as few as 2 or as many as 10 or more. Was the reporter being intentionally vague so it appears to be more than it is?

Something I just noticed from the article:

The calls were made during four different months
So, it wasn't over a 4 month period - they were even more spread out.
140 posted on 11/29/2011 7:41:14 AM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: jellybean

The initial stories about Cain’s alleged sexual harassment referred to two different women who worked with Cain at the National Restaurant Association. Karen Kraushaar said the complaint was about a “gesture” he made to indicate she was the same height as his wife.

The second accuser, who claims Cain persistently asked her to come to his hotel room during a work event, remains anonymous.

Anonymous second accuser = Ginger White


141 posted on 11/29/2011 7:45:15 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Elle Bee
two little words:

BROKERED CONVENTION


I have mentioned that before. I have also mentioned that it could open the door for a compromise candidate -- Jeb Somebody.

Romney, the Elites' preferred, can't seem to muster above the low 20s.

Gingrich might win several primaries, but the Dems/MSM would slaughter him in the General. He would end up with fewer EVs than McCain got.

I doubt Jeb Somebody would win in 2012, either. Bush fatigue is still rampant and too many still have a bitter taste from GW's 2nd term.


142 posted on 11/29/2011 7:45:43 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Elle Bee

>> BROKERED CONVENTION <<

Bring it on! Then we could get a real winner, like my governor and favorite GOP leader, Haley Barbour.

(But I’d settle for Gov. Daniels, Gov. Jindal, Sen. Kyl, Sen. Rubio or Congressman Ryan!)


143 posted on 11/29/2011 7:47:06 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: IamConservative

I wonder if we are going to discover that verbal platonic friendship is now called “an affair”.

that said,

A plantation for every demographic?

like hillaries thesis that society will spit into have and have nots? Though in modern society the “have” at issue is political power over others.


144 posted on 11/29/2011 7:48:03 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Lucky9teen
“It bothered me that they were being demonized, sort of; they were treated as if they were automatically lying, and the burden of proof was on them,” White said. “I felt bad for them.”

WTF? It's awful hard to prove a negative (that HC did NOT do what he is being accused of).

This stinks to high heaven!

145 posted on 11/29/2011 7:50:00 AM PST by sauropod (Ann Coulter does NOT choose my presidential candidate!)
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To: longtermmemmory
as a DNC operative you can easily find his private cell number. You hire this woman to make a false accusation and give her the number to put into her cell phone.

And the amazing thing is they hired her 13 years ago because Miss Cleo's crystal ball told them he would eventually run for president.

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146 posted on 11/29/2011 7:50:10 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: lonestar
Do you think it speaks well of Cain that he likes trashy losers? ?

Didn't hurt His Slickness when Gennifer Flowers came out, did it? She had tapes of him telling how to deceive the press and everything.

147 posted on 11/29/2011 7:53:09 AM PST by sauropod (Ann Coulter does NOT choose my presidential candidate!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Any man is a fool to have or describe a woman as a “friend”. That’s too intimate in a business or professional relationship. A man can have or describe a woman as an acquaintance or co-worker, but not a “friend”. This woman is dumping on Cain because she didn’t know there were other “friends”.


148 posted on 11/29/2011 7:55:18 AM PST by damper99
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To: Never on my watch
Nor do you, yet you revel in the destruction of a man,

I liked Cain...before I didn't like him. The more I didn't know about him, the more I didn't trust him.

I noticed that I haven't seen anybody from Cain's past come forth to defend the man's character.Where are his past business associates?

Surely he has one or two friends from his business acquaintances who would be familiar with his character.

149 posted on 11/29/2011 7:57:44 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: ken5050
Question..if Cain were a Democrat, what would we all eb sayign about him now?

Question.. What did we say about Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones, and Juanita Broaddrick?

Did they have a history of evictions, bankruptcies and sexual harrassment litigiousness>

I don't recall any of that with them where it appears to be the MO with Cain's accusers.

150 posted on 11/29/2011 7:59:37 AM PST by sauropod (Ann Coulter does NOT choose my presidential candidate!)
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