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Mayans Never Predicted December 2012 Apocalypse, Researchers Say
History ^ | 12/2/11 | Staff

Posted on 12/02/2011 11:46:17 AM PST by Winstons Julia

Various Mayan scholars have attempted to debunk this reading, including Sven Gronemeyer of Australia’s La Trobe University, who has studied the Tortugero tablet in great detail. On Wednesday he presented his decoding of the inscription, suggesting that Bolon Yokte’s prophesied appearance on December 21, 2012, represents the start of a new era and not the end of days. Proponents of the apocalyptic interpretation have misunderstood the poorly preserved hieroglyphs, he said.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: 2012; aliens; canada; catastrophism; collapse; economy; eow; godsgravesglyphs; maya; mayan; mayancalendar; mayans; oil
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Phwew....close one!
1 posted on 12/02/2011 11:46:22 AM PST by Winstons Julia
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


2 posted on 12/02/2011 11:47:18 AM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: Winstons Julia
Hey give them a brake! They were only a month or so off from the Apocalypse.

Tuesday, November 6, 2012
3 posted on 12/02/2011 11:50:00 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
"Tuesday, November 6, 2012"

aka The "Barakalypse".

4 posted on 12/02/2011 11:52:50 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Winstons Julia
Various Mayan scholars have attempted to debunk this reading, including Sven Gronemeyer of Australia’s La Trobe University...

There are Mayans living in Australia? I did not know that.

5 posted on 12/02/2011 12:00:12 PM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Winstons Julia
Curiosity about Mayans, the occult, mysticism, and every false religion there is has brought America to her knees. It is time to get the truth about the past, present, and future from the Bible, and trust in the Lord God Almighty. He is the only way.
6 posted on 12/02/2011 12:04:01 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: Winstons Julia

If they Mayans were really that smart, they would have foreseen their own demise first.


7 posted on 12/02/2011 12:07:36 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Winstons Julia

Despite the fact that none of this nonsense is going to happen it will still pay to be prepared because everyone ELSE is going to panic. That means a run of food, gas, water, etc, most likely violence and panic as well.

Boy Scout motto is fitting here.


8 posted on 12/02/2011 12:08:15 PM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: Winstons Julia

“Start of a new era” can be interpreted in a number of ways and not all of them are a bed of roses for those undergoing the transition.


9 posted on 12/02/2011 12:08:32 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: Winstons Julia

10 posted on 12/02/2011 12:11:12 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: Winstons Julia

Since the Mayans didn’t save themselves from their OWN extinction( assuming they successfully predicted it) it does seem more than stupid to trust their precognitative abilities regarding ours.
If Mayans were that prescient, there would still be a Mayan civilization.


11 posted on 12/02/2011 12:17:04 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: Peter from Rutland

See if you can get all those believers you know to sign documents giving you all their money and property come Dec 2012. THAT’S what I call being prepared.


12 posted on 12/02/2011 12:19:03 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: Kartographer

Did you go Camping to come up with that date?


13 posted on 12/02/2011 12:22:59 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

What do you plan for those people that do not believe in the Bible like you do?


14 posted on 12/02/2011 12:23:19 PM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Winstons Julia

Oh Great! Now what am I going to do with all these cans of spam?


15 posted on 12/02/2011 12:24:39 PM PST by farmguy
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To: Winstons Julia
Mayans Never Predicted December 2012 Apocalypse, Researchers Say

No biggie, Elenin's gonna destroy the Earth during September 2011 anyway.

16 posted on 12/02/2011 12:26:37 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: farmguy

Trip to Hawaii?


17 posted on 12/02/2011 12:34:28 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: steve86
“Start of a new era” can be interpreted in a number of ways and not all of them are a bed of roses for those undergoing the transition.

It could also mean "We're out of rock, see the new edition of our calendar."

My sophisticated, modern calendars run out annually. The world hasn't ended yet.

18 posted on 12/02/2011 12:39:31 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I never did expect the world to end but anyone can look at the international news and see it isn’t going to be a Rose Parade next year.


19 posted on 12/02/2011 12:43:21 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: Winstons Julia

I guess that means that “The Discovery Channel” will have to pull about 30 years worth of programming including anything that refers to the Mayan Calendar.


20 posted on 12/02/2011 12:47:52 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: Winstons Julia

The Mayans were tards.


21 posted on 12/02/2011 12:55:09 PM PST by The Toll
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To: Winstons Julia

I think this may mean something regarding my January 1, 2013 balloon payment.


22 posted on 12/02/2011 1:27:07 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: stuartcr
What do you plan for those people that do not believe in the Bible like you do?

It's not about me, it's about the Lord God Almighty.

www.patburt.com

23 posted on 12/02/2011 1:38:57 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: Winstons Julia
From Matthew Chapter 24:

Learn a lesson from the fig tree. When its branch becomes tender and sprouts leaves, you know that summer is near. In the same way, when you see all these things, know that he is near, at the gates. Amen, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.

But of that day and hour no one knows, neither the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

24 posted on 12/02/2011 1:54:50 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: Winstons Julia

I guess anyone that has done fifteen minutes of serious reading on this subject understands that the Mayans never predicted the “end of the world.” It is simply akin to needing to go out and buy a new calendar.

End of one cycle, start of another one.

Pretty simple, and pretty hopeful.


25 posted on 12/02/2011 2:36:35 PM PST by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
I thought this guy's theory was that space visitors did everything?

Hard to take someone with hair like that seriously even if he wasn't seriously discussing UFOs.

26 posted on 12/02/2011 2:47:02 PM PST by CommerceComet (Governor Romney, why would any conservative vote for the author of the beta version of ObamaCare?)
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To: ClearBlueSky

I think I could make millions selling “Global Catastrophe Insurance”. If the world comes to an end, one could apply for reimbursement. I’d probably end up in jail, though, unlike the global warming hoaxsters.


27 posted on 12/02/2011 3:17:23 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; ...

Thanks Winstons Julia.




28 posted on 12/02/2011 3:22:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Thanks Winstons Julia.

;') [singing] two thousand uno du'os party over says the lights of heaven /
tonight i'm gonna party like it's two thousand eleven
December 20, 2012

29 posted on 12/02/2011 3:22:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Winstons Julia; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks Winstons Julia.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


30 posted on 12/02/2011 3:22:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Winstons Julia; Kartographer

LOL

on second thought....

BWAAAAHHAAAHAHAHA


31 posted on 12/02/2011 3:48:49 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: ClearBlueSky
If Mayans were that prescient, there would still be a Mayan civilization.

The Mayans didn't predict the end of the world in 2012. It's the renewal of their Long Count calendar.

There still IS a thriving Mayan civilization in Mexico, Guatemala and Belize. Modern Mayans just don't live in city-states run by bloodthirsty warring kings. Their ancestors had the good sense to walk away from all that and let the kings fend for themselves.

32 posted on 12/02/2011 3:50:37 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Winstons Julia

Of course not, everyone knows that the Mayan calendar maker was laid off following the 2012 production run.......


33 posted on 12/02/2011 3:54:00 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Be good, Santa is coming)
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To: Winstons Julia

Those crazy Mayans. Everyone knows you never round up to the highest integer when predicting the end of the world.


34 posted on 12/02/2011 4:00:54 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Winstons Julia

-——represents the start of a new era and not the end of days-——

no rational person i know ever thought otherwise


35 posted on 12/02/2011 4:02:50 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: ClearBlueSky; PGR88

Greece declined and Rome fell, too. But I don’t hear anyone arguing that those cultures weren’t “smart.” The Mayans never predicted an apocalypse, the 2012 event they predicted was a calendar cycle change, much like the change from 1999 to 2000. They were very sophisticated about some things — astronomy, math, they developed a written language — and not very sophisticated about others: they never figured out how to make use of the wheel, although they were familiar with the concept and created wheeled toys for their children. The Mayan culture was like all human cultures, smart about some things, not so smart about others.


36 posted on 12/02/2011 4:14:01 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: Winstons Julia

37 posted on 12/02/2011 4:16:01 PM PST by eartrumpet
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To: Bernard Marx

I don’t know if I would characterize them all as thriving, some of them are leading marginal jungle existences, but I agree with everything else you say.


38 posted on 12/02/2011 4:16:21 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: Bernard Marx
Historical Review: Megadrought And Megadeath In 16th Century Mexico (Hemorrhagic Fever)
39 posted on 12/02/2011 4:18:50 PM PST by blam
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To: Bernard Marx; Winstons Julia
Modern Mayans just don't live in city-states run by bloodthirsty warring kings.

Welcome back to the planet...

Nothing changes...

40 posted on 12/02/2011 4:24:28 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: SunkenCiv

41 posted on 12/02/2011 4:26:40 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit)
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To: La Lydia; Bernard Marx; SunkenCiv; Winstons Julia
but I agree with everything else you say

Okay. Before this goes any further...Get Lucky

42 posted on 12/02/2011 4:33:17 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Winstons Julia

The long count rolls over at the end of the 13th baklun, or every 5129 years. It’s like the odometer on your car rolling over at 1000000 miles.


43 posted on 12/02/2011 4:37:55 PM PST by Gideon7
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To: blam

That’s all very interesting and probably true. How does it relate to the 2012 “Apocalypse” and Mayan “extinction?” Are you saying the collapse of the city-states was due to hemorrhagic fever? If so it was only the coup de grace after years of inter-kingdom warfare and drought. The Mayan people did not go extinct.


44 posted on 12/02/2011 5:06:23 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: SunkenCiv; All

45 posted on 12/02/2011 5:20:09 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: bigheadfred
Welcome back to the planet...

I've been here all along. Your suggestion that the Mayan city-states have been supplanted by modern drug gangs is interesting but off-point. The OP suggested the Mayans are extinct; they are not. There will be no 2012 "Apocalypse" nor did the Mayans predict one.

When in human history have common folks been lucky enough to avoid exploitation by the brutal and powerful? History is nothing if not repetitive.

46 posted on 12/02/2011 5:29:41 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: CommerceComet
I thought this guy's theory was that space visitors did everything?

Well, who do you think told the Mayans when the world was going to end?

47 posted on 12/02/2011 5:54:00 PM PST by Nachoman (I HOPE we CHANGE presidents.)
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To: Winstons Julia

There was a Mayan free State recognized by the UK on the Yucatan Peninsula from the 19th to around the beginning of the 20th century.

There are still who speak Mayan,dress Mayan and live in their own belief systems.They are hardly extinct.

Given what is going on in 2010-2011,if 2012 is more of the State it won’t matter much what the intent(most likely non-apocalyptic) had to do with a stone calendar.


48 posted on 12/02/2011 6:28:05 PM PST by Del Rapier
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To: Bernard Marx; Winstons Julia

No, it isn’t off point. You are trying to apply a dream to a reality.

Everyone knows “apocalypse” means change.

The “violence” associated with the “apocalypse” is completely contextual. Completely Biblical.

6.2 billion dead bodies laying in the streets otta make for some change.

The promise of the Christ is to free YOU of the repetetive nature of “history”...

Put down your I-Phone and gigadigit in the data stream. You were born with that. Tell HIM you need an upgrade.

If yo mama and papa dinna show you that, be 6.2.


49 posted on 12/02/2011 6:58:04 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: SunkenCiv
I have a hard time believing in the Mayan Calendar and it's 12/12/12 prediction. My brother believes it though...and throw in the Chinese, Jewish, ancient Christian ( but that's a bit redundant, when you come to think off it) the Hindu, the Zoroastrians and the Muslims' calendars all predicting the same thing.

The Mayans are long gone, the rest are muddling through heedless of the impending doom.....except the Muslims. They came late to the party and never developed anything that made sense in all their time but just may be the catalyst for the end of times lurking using what they deem the best deception in the inventory....superstition.

My brother's nuts, so forget about it. If he's right......well forget abour that too come 12/13/12.
50 posted on 12/02/2011 8:22:59 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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