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Rock hall of fame snubs red-state favorites
Washington Times ^ | 12/12/2011 | Hampton Stevens

Posted on 12/13/2011 1:29:58 PM PST by mojito

....Of course, the real divide institutionalized in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame isn’t the line between black and white. It’s the one between red and blue. The great divide in Cleveland isn’t racial, but cultural, with artists that appeal to a red-state audience getting shoved aside time and time again in favor of more blue-state-friendly acts. While the hall has been making a display of its musical ecumenism by extending its reach to embrace ever more remote cousins of rock, it has simultaneously revealed an equally strong prejudice against the mainstream rock of the American heartland, pejoratively dubbed “arena rock” because its representative acts fill sports arenas rather than the pages of Rolling Stone and Spin.

The hall’s selective “open-mindedness” explains how ABBA, Neil Diamond, Madonna and Steely Dan can be rock hall members. But that big tent gets tiny when it comes to music that mainstream Red America loves — especially music that appeals to straight, white, working-class men. Journey isn’t in the hall. Neither is Jethro Tull, Boston, Bon Jovi, the Cars, ELO, the Steve Miller Band or Stevie Ray Vaughn. Nor is Kansas. Or Styx. Or Ted Nugent. Get the picture?

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Ah, come on! You can't find a place for the Nuge?
1 posted on 12/13/2011 1:30:06 PM PST by mojito
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To: mojito

Nugent plays Rock and Roll and there is NO PLACE for that sort of thing in the Rock and Roll HOF.


2 posted on 12/13/2011 1:31:10 PM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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To: mojito

I hope the Hall of Fame will remember,

a southern man don’t need them around, anyhow.....


3 posted on 12/13/2011 1:34:28 PM PST by EyeGuy (moral)
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To: mojito
Bon Jovi - shortly before being picked up as a transexual hooker by Eddie Murphy (hat tip to Triumph the Insult Comic dog). THIS is the kind of music that appeals to straight white red blooded American men? Not THIS one! Not even close!
4 posted on 12/13/2011 1:35:24 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: mojito

It’s not about what red staters do and don’t like, it’s about Wenner not liking prog rock or metal. Anybody in either of those categories that’s in is in grudgingly at best. Some Wenner will die and things might get better.


5 posted on 12/13/2011 1:37:45 PM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: mojito

As long as Jan Wenner is alive, NO red-blooded American rockers will get into the Hall. He is a raving homo lunatic.


6 posted on 12/13/2011 1:40:26 PM PST by hoagy62 ("Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff."-Frank Zappa)
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To: mojito
No Ted, No Jethro?

More Mistakes-on-the-Lake.

7 posted on 12/13/2011 1:41:37 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: mojito

It’s only a matter of time before Justin Beeber gets in.


8 posted on 12/13/2011 1:42:59 PM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: mojito

Jon Bon Jovi is a huge lefty.


9 posted on 12/13/2011 1:43:38 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: mojito

Well, I guess that tells me that they don’t need or want red state visitors too, right?


10 posted on 12/13/2011 1:45:57 PM PST by Obadiah (Obama's America: His Own Private Venezuela)
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To: mojito
This is NOT satire although I am definitely showing my age: Pat Boone belongs in the R&R HOF. Yes, I really wrote that and there's not a smiley or sarc tag in this posting.

Like him or not, he was instrumental in exposing the genre to a wide, mass audience. Sure it was cover music and tamer versions of what was then called "race music". Nevertheless, his talent and charm were critical to making rock and roll palatable to many, myself included.

Admittedly, I may be the only person in the known universe who prefers his version of I Almost Lost My Mind over the original. So flame away...

11 posted on 12/13/2011 1:46:22 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: allmendream

“I mean Stevie Ray Vaughan is dead, and we can’t get Jon Bon Jovi in a helicopter. Come on, folks. “Get on that helicopter John. Shut the —— up and get on that helicopter! There’s a hair dresser in there. Yeah, go ahead in there, yeah yeah.” - Dennis Leary


12 posted on 12/13/2011 1:47:47 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: ColdOne; allmendream
You give 'rock' a bad name!"

13 posted on 12/13/2011 1:47:57 PM PST by evets (beer)
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To: EyeGuy

Styx? I rather shoot my radio than listen to Styx.


14 posted on 12/13/2011 1:47:57 PM PST by AceMineral (Some people are too stupid for their own good.)
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To: mojito
Neither is Jethro Tull, Boston, Bon Jovi, the Cars, ELO, the Steve Miller Band or Stevie Ray Vaughn. Nor is Kansas. Or Styx. Or Ted Nugent. Get the picture?

With the exception of SRV, I would question any of them baing voted in.

So how does the writer explain such inductees as:

Johnny Cash
Bob Seeger
The Band
ZZ Top
Allman Brothers
Van Morrison
YardBirds
Clapton
Cream
Led Zep.
The Stones

I think a lot of those named are fairly popular in states both Blue and Red

15 posted on 12/13/2011 1:48:44 PM PST by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: AceMineral

Styx - Gayest band ever.


16 posted on 12/13/2011 1:49:50 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: mojito
There is no more egregious example of hall voters’ arrogance and pedantry than this year’s selection of Laura Nyro. To choose this talented but obscure singer-songwriter is the very definition of cultural elitism, one thrown into sharper relief by the fact that Joan Jett and Heart were also on the ballot this year, but voters passed on both in favor of Nyro. Electing Nyro is a gesture of withering arrogance and disdain, one meant to instruct the rock audience on what music it “should” listen to, instead of the stuff people actually like.

I'd like to know the average age of the voting members.

17 posted on 12/13/2011 1:50:12 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: re_nortex
Pat Boone is too awesome for the Rock hall of fame!

18 posted on 12/13/2011 1:51:56 PM PST by evets (beer)
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To: AceMineral

“Styx? I rather shoot my radio than listen to Styx.”

######

Skynyrd.


19 posted on 12/13/2011 1:52:12 PM PST by EyeGuy (moral)
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To: re_nortex

pat boone - enter sandman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z67IqrmygZY


20 posted on 12/13/2011 1:52:59 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: Charles Martel
There is no more egregious example of hall voters’ arrogance and pedantry than this year’s selection of Laura Nyro.

A local Cleveland DJ said, "the only way Nyro belongs in the rock-n-roll hall of fame is with a mop and a bucket". I agree.

21 posted on 12/13/2011 1:56:58 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Michael.SF.
To some extent, your list are the ones that are inarguable. A Hall of Fame without Zeppelin, etc. would be a joke.

There are too many inductees already, but I think the point is that as the HoF has gone beyond the easy ones, it has leaned in a certain direction.

22 posted on 12/13/2011 1:57:17 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: hoagy62
As long as Jan Wenner is alive ...
He must be ...

23 posted on 12/13/2011 1:57:48 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: mojito

“BOSTON”............”Red Staters!”

Morons!!!


24 posted on 12/13/2011 1:58:54 PM PST by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: dfwgator

Wham!

Glass Tiger

Jane Loves Jezebel

Duran Duran

Styx doesn’t hold a candle (or a flame) to those bands.


25 posted on 12/13/2011 2:05:37 PM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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To: evets
Pat Boone is too awesome for the Rock hall of fame!

I sort of liked his rendition of Van Halen's Panama.

26 posted on 12/13/2011 2:06:02 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
I think the point is that as the HoF has gone beyond the easy ones, it has leaned in a certain direction.

Agreed, but I think that direction is slanted more towards mediocrity than it is towards red or blue state.

27 posted on 12/13/2011 2:06:37 PM PST by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: mojito
I went to the R & R HOF once.

After seeing a Britney Spears display, I knew I wouldn't be returning.

28 posted on 12/13/2011 2:08:39 PM PST by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: Charles Martel

To be honest Laura Nyro has a huge body of songwriting work to her credit.

Yardbirds were a main incubator of future members of Creram, Zep, and other bands. Jeff Beck is a genius.


29 posted on 12/13/2011 2:08:39 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: Grunthor

Duran Duran????

Paaleeeeze!

Rush RULES!!!!! (and their not in either)


30 posted on 12/13/2011 2:18:16 PM PST by PjhCPA (I'm an equal candidate criticizer.)
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To: PjhCPA

I love Rush.


31 posted on 12/13/2011 2:22:28 PM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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To: Paladin2

Surely, you don’t mean Jethro Tull, as an example of Red State rock, do you? Those pretensious, no-talent, anti-Christian poseurs who write the background music for Whole Foods?


32 posted on 12/13/2011 2:30:06 PM PST by dangus
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To: dfwgator

Only Dennis “Babe” DeYoung. Tommy Shaw rocked. Fooling Yourself, Blue Collar Man, Renegade, Great White Hope, and Miss America were all good rock. (I’ll admit, for pure campy fun, Mr. Roboto works... I just shudder to think that DeYoung was serious.)


33 posted on 12/13/2011 2:36:30 PM PST by dangus
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To: Grunthor
Styx doesn’t hold a candle (or a flame) to those bands.

Which version of Styx are you talking about - the Wooden Nickel Records band with John Curelewski on guitar, or the later hair band featuring Tommy Shaw and lots of Dennis DeYoung ballads? Might as well be two entirely different groups.

I rather like some of their earlier stuff, such as Man in the Wilderness and Suite Madame Blue. Those were really before they got the "corporate rock" treatment.

34 posted on 12/13/2011 2:45:48 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: diverteach

>> “BOSTON”............”Red Staters!” ... Morons!!!<<

Not exactly. Tom Sholz is from Ohio. He, basically, IS Boston. Their music is most popular in the midwest, as well.


35 posted on 12/13/2011 2:47:16 PM PST by dangus
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To: dangus
I never go to Whole Foods -- It creeps me out. It's like some kind of a weird parallel universe. Do they play music there?

I do like my rock with flute on occasion though.

Remember that "red" is the commie color. I don't subscribe to the current state of dhimmi "conservatives" who proudly describe themselves as "Red Staters". As long as it's just the music playing, I can enjoy good stuff from even the the most commie, marxist, fascist progressives. YMMV.

36 posted on 12/13/2011 2:50:23 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: dangus
I just shudder to think that DeYoung was serious.

Agreed, that album (and the weird stage play that accompanied it) wasn't the artistic statement that *I* would've chosen, but at least DeYoung tried to put a thumb in the eye of Tipper Gore and her pro-censorship associates.

37 posted on 12/13/2011 2:59:32 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: allmendream

I know PLENTY of people who love Bon Jovi. Nearly all of them are women.


38 posted on 12/13/2011 3:09:05 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (There are two kinds of people: those who divide people into two kinds and those who don't.)
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To: Charles Martel

Just how many people have actually heard of Laura Nyro, much less heard any of her music?


39 posted on 12/13/2011 3:11:55 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (There are two kinds of people: those who divide people into two kinds and those who don't.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
I think the point is that as the HoF has gone beyond the easy ones

Rush, KISS, Nugent, Deep Purple are all easy no matter what metric you want to use. My ten year old plays "Smoke On The Water" on his violin for cryin' out loud.

40 posted on 12/13/2011 3:14:19 PM PST by Poison Pill (Obama is the hopium of the masses)
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To: dangus

“Not exactly. Tom Sholz is from Ohio. He, basically, IS Boston. Their music is most popular in the midwest, as well.”

Tom Scholz is also a flaming leftard. If it weren’t for the fact that Boston sort of rocks, they’d be an R&RHOF shoo-in for that reason alone.


41 posted on 12/13/2011 3:14:50 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (There are two kinds of people: those who divide people into two kinds and those who don't.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Tull should be in. Their music was distinctive and interesting. Never formula and unique instrumentation. Heard Ian Anderson in an interview once say that in their day they were not into being ‘rock stars,’ they were into being musicians.


42 posted on 12/13/2011 3:16:40 PM PST by Sven Tremain
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To: dangus
Tom Sholz is from Ohio. He, basically, IS Boston.

He was the brains of the outfit without question. But, Brad Delp is the reason folks listen to the band. Lots and Lots and Lots of folks. Another no-brainer for the HOF.

43 posted on 12/13/2011 3:27:36 PM PST by Poison Pill (Obama is the hopium of the masses)
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To: Sven Tremain
Ian Anderson was distinct that is a certainty. I would have not issue over him being in the HOF. Certainly he over the other remaining ones on that list would be the best choice.

BTW, I saw him just before he really took off with 'Aqualung', it was a heck of a show!

44 posted on 12/13/2011 3:29:01 PM PST by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: Paladin2

Truth is I never go to Whole Foods. I was just calling them new-age crap.


45 posted on 12/13/2011 3:30:17 PM PST by dangus
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To: mojito
It is ghard to take seriously anyone who thinks Steve Miller belongs in the HOF.

I would vote for his harmonica player, the late Norton Buffalo before Miller.

46 posted on 12/13/2011 3:31:35 PM PST by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: hoagy62

Considering the faggots and their weak-ass crap that have been added to their list, I would find it an insult someone thought my music was like theirs.


47 posted on 12/13/2011 3:35:48 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: mojito
The hall of fame is bogus... no one has the right... rock is... and it is bigger than any bunch of celebrity worshipers.

LLS

48 posted on 12/13/2011 3:37:21 PM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: mojito

There is no smoking allowed in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Enough said.


49 posted on 12/13/2011 4:18:22 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers
Just how many people have actually heard of Laura Nyro, much less heard any of her music?

I sure hadn't - and my tastes are pretty far-ranging. This snippet from her bio totally supports the author's comments in the article above:

"Throughout high school Laura also listened to the protest music of Pete Seeger, Joan Baez, early Bob Dylan the Beatles and others. Laura always "adored" the music of Van Morrison. “I was always interested in the social consciousness of certain songs. My mother and grandfather were progressive thinkers, so I felt at home in the peace movement and the women's movement, and that has influenced my music.”

Counter-culture, Progressive, Pete Seeger protest music, etc., etc.

Yep, the R&RHOF is kissing Commie butt.

50 posted on 12/13/2011 4:26:50 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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