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Vanity: Webley Mark VI .45 acp
12/22/11 | mylife

Posted on 12/22/2011 7:43:46 PM PST by mylife

Today, I found a Webley Mark VI chambered for 45 acp, in very good to excellent condition.

It was for sale on consignment for $545 I am uncertain as to the date of manufacture (I didnt look it over)

Is this a fair price? I cant stop thinking about it.


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1 posted on 12/22/2011 7:43:53 PM PST by mylife
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To: mylife

Christmas gift for yourself?


2 posted on 12/22/2011 7:49:43 PM PST by gettinolder (Smashed lips save ships.)
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To: mylife

I have no idea if it’s fair or not but it would be so cool to own one of those.


3 posted on 12/22/2011 7:51:01 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: gettinolder

I got an Ruger LC9 for that.

I’m just a sucker for classic collectibles and I know if I don’t buy this thing tomorrow, it will be gone.


4 posted on 12/22/2011 7:51:41 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

I’ve always liked guns you can break open, like Schofields.
Here’s some comparables: http://www.gunsamerica.com/Search/Category/746/2/Guns/Pistols/Webley-Pistols.htm

Btw, if the freeper whose name I can’t recall but just bought a Ruger LC9 is still looking, I bought a pocket holster from High Noon. They are ready to ship, quick turn around, about %60.00. Nice piece of work.


5 posted on 12/22/2011 7:52:59 PM PST by tumblindice (Cowboy up)
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To: mylife
The ring is so you can legally dangle your pistol in public.

I'm not sure I would spend that kind of money for a pistol without personally
inspecting the weapon. My model K S&W has worn parts that are very hard to
find, if at all. The trigger assembly must be taken to a machine shop for
adjustments that cost more than the original replacement part that cannot be found.

I would also check the availability of parts.

6 posted on 12/22/2011 7:53:06 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: Lurker

I love classic stuff.


7 posted on 12/22/2011 7:53:50 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

GunsAmerica just sold a 1917 Webley in 45acp for $795. I didn’t know they made them in 45acp til I saw your post. I think I’d like to have one.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/939406363/Guns/Pistols/Webley-Pistols/WEBLEY_MK_VI_45_ACP.htm


8 posted on 12/22/2011 7:55:13 PM PST by umgud
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To: mylife
I just checked gunbroker.com and they've got four for sale. One is started at $400 w/reserve not met. The rest are no reserve. One for $699. One for $799. And one for $1150. The last three have no bids. Not a good sign.

I'd say the price for the one you're looking at is fair, but not great. Condition means everything. The picture almost looks like a refinish job. That would detract from its collector value.

9 posted on 12/22/2011 7:55:51 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: tumblindice

Thanks for that info.

I had looked at that gunsamerica page.


10 posted on 12/22/2011 7:56:27 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
With firearms, if in doubt. BUY IT.

You can always trade or sell it later.

/johnny

11 posted on 12/22/2011 7:56:40 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: MaxMax
I intend to inspect it and fire it tomorrow if I get decent feedback here.

I may anyway. ☺

12 posted on 12/22/2011 7:57:58 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: umgud

I never realized they converted them to 45 acp until today either.


13 posted on 12/22/2011 7:59:14 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Without seeing the gun in person it is hard to say about the price. However I can tell you it has been re-chambered to 45ACP. They came chambered in .455 Webley. You may or may not be able to use that as a bargaining chip in your purchase. By the way have one that was re-chambered to 45ACP.


14 posted on 12/22/2011 7:59:51 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: LouAvul

That picture is just one I pulled off the web.
Also it is a pic of a .455


15 posted on 12/22/2011 8:00:35 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I tend to agree.
It’s not like they are making anymore.


16 posted on 12/22/2011 8:01:43 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Parley Baer

How significant is the date of manufacture to the value?


17 posted on 12/22/2011 8:03:45 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: tumblindice; mylife

Maybe you’re thinking of me.

I recently bought an LC9 for my wife.

We’ve been so busy with work and holiday stuff that we haven’t even gotten to the range with it yet.

Thanks for the tip. I was thinking of a pocket holster that she could use in her purse.

mylife, looks like we’re gonna have to rely on you for the first LC9 range report!


18 posted on 12/22/2011 8:05:20 PM PST by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: LouAvul

This one is not a refinish.
It has minor holster wear on the barrel.


19 posted on 12/22/2011 8:06:24 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

THey were originally chambered in.455 Webley. Tens of thousands were rechambered in .45 ACP during WWII to ease pressure on the logistics chain.


20 posted on 12/22/2011 8:07:51 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: mylife

Neat looking piece.

Are the grips plastic or wood?


21 posted on 12/22/2011 8:08:55 PM PST by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: 2111USMC

I will test it out tomorrow. I would have shot it today but I had stuff I had to get done.
I didn’t get the good deal you got.
You got yours 8% below dealers cost!
I paid 8% above.

I’m impressed with it so far.


22 posted on 12/22/2011 8:09:33 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Lurker

Thanks for that info.
I kinda figured as much.


23 posted on 12/22/2011 8:11:03 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 2111USMC

Hard rubber.


24 posted on 12/22/2011 8:11:37 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

I don’t know. It has been awhile since I studied up on the Webleys. Like anything else the rarity, condition and demand will be the factors in determining the price. As stated above you can look on websites such as www.gunbroker.com and see what the going rate is.


25 posted on 12/22/2011 8:15:27 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: mylife

You need to research it. I don’t think converted Webley’s can handle the factory ACP loads, so it would be a handloader’s special. Also, conversions tend to destroy the collector value.


26 posted on 12/22/2011 8:15:39 PM PST by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: mylife

those are collectible now.


27 posted on 12/22/2011 8:16:40 PM PST by omega4179 (We can't wait!............. for the end of an error.....1-20-13)
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

They were converted by webley at the factory.

Conversion is probably the wrong word.
they were produced in .45 acp at the factory, thought the original design was .455


28 posted on 12/22/2011 8:20:05 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: omega4179

That is my hope.


29 posted on 12/22/2011 8:21:00 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/topic/9296/CAUTION—455-REVOLVERS-ALTERED—SHOOT-45-ACP—45-Auto-Rim#.TvP-8zJZ40k


30 posted on 12/22/2011 8:21:11 PM PST by omega4179 (We can't wait!............. for the end of an error.....1-20-13)
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

Actually these were converted specifically for use with mil-spec .45 ammo and were for war time use. They are fairly collectible and from what I’ve heard are good shooters.

Ironically enough so many of them were converted in this fashion that if you run across on in the original .455 they command a pretty nice premium.


31 posted on 12/22/2011 8:24:06 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: omega4179

Dude! You are making me sad!


32 posted on 12/22/2011 8:24:44 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 2111USMC
Thanks for the tip. I was thinking of a pocket holster that she could use in her purse.

Don't let her keep her gun in her purse. That's the first thing the bum will grab away from her. My wife carries her LC9 or her Walther in her pocket. Hope this helps.

33 posted on 12/22/2011 8:25:23 PM PST by Octar
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To: omega4179

Apparently that is the only documented case on the web

http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=101007


34 posted on 12/22/2011 8:30:09 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

I owned one of these when I was young and dumb. I had the half moon clips you need in order to fire the .45 ACP round in the revolver. I was stupid and sold it. It was a great gun and very accurate, heavy and hard to conceal but it was a great gun. I wish I had kept it. I have no idea what one would go for now.


35 posted on 12/22/2011 8:31:16 PM PST by calex59
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To: mylife
The Webley revolver went through a number of changes, culminating in the Mk VI, which was in production between 1915 and 1923. The large .455 Webly revolvers were retired in 1947, although the Webley Mk IV .38/200 remained in service until 1963 alongside the Enfield No. 2 Mk I revolver. Commercial versions of all Webley service revolvers were also sold to the civilian market, along with a number of similar designs (such as the Webley-Government and Webley-Wilkinson) that were not officially adopted for service, but were nonetheless purchased privately by military officers.
36 posted on 12/22/2011 8:31:35 PM PST by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: mylife
If you don't know what this is you are about to find out.


37 posted on 12/22/2011 8:32:12 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: calex59

That is exactly what this is.


38 posted on 12/22/2011 8:32:19 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
After looking in my Blue Book of Firearms Values,1.Webley never made a MKVI of any other service revolver in 45ACP, that one has been worked over by some gun butcher to shoot 45 ACP in 1/2 moon clips. 2.The original caliber was 455 Webley MKII, you have to shoot low power 45 ACP ammo ,the stuff you get over the counter can damage the gun. 3.Needless to say the collector value is gone and it's worth between $100-250 at the most. Unless you want a shooter and are willing to or have someone else reload low power ammo this isn't a good deal. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news
39 posted on 12/22/2011 8:32:40 PM PST by Billy Dixon (A Chicken in every pot and a Liberal from every Lamp Post)
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To: central_va

I know.


40 posted on 12/22/2011 8:32:52 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Billy Dixon

You are making me sad, but I appreciate the information.


41 posted on 12/22/2011 8:35:04 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Billy Dixon

You are making me sad, but I appreciate the information.


42 posted on 12/22/2011 8:36:08 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Billy Dixon

Looks like I will let this one go.
A shame.


43 posted on 12/22/2011 8:41:55 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife; Lurker
I love classic stuff.
Same here. I like S&W N and K frame revolvers, Browning High-Powers, Colt SAA and of course the 1911. Too bad I lost all of them in a tragic boating accident.
44 posted on 12/22/2011 8:44:12 PM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: All

I appreciate the wealth of knowledge here on FR.
FReepers are the best!


45 posted on 12/22/2011 8:44:14 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: wjcsux

Damned water craft!


46 posted on 12/22/2011 8:45:07 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
If you can get it for $250 or under it would be a fair deal.
Unaltered guns are valued between $600 and $200 depending on condition and conversion to 45 reduces this by half. I'd wait for one that's in as-issued condition personally. 455 webley(or eley or colt same ammo different name)is available from fiocchi or hornady but isn't cheap.BTW the gun was made sometime 1914-1919
47 posted on 12/22/2011 8:57:47 PM PST by Billy Dixon (A Chicken in every pot and a Liberal from every Lamp Post)
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To: mylife
Condition is everything. Cheek for pitting and bore wear. I think you'll have a hard time finding another decent one at a better price. The market sets the price and lately demand has been high on cool older guns.

If I bought it I would use it as a shooter with 200 grain SWC lead reloads pushing about 830 fps. I would try some factory hardball in it too even though for liability purposes some do not recommend that. Just don't shoot too much fmj. It is a HD revolver but don't try any proof loads.

48 posted on 12/22/2011 9:06:55 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: mylife

THAT IS COOL!

I WANT ONE!


49 posted on 12/22/2011 10:14:41 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: mylife

Does it require moon clips to handle the ammo?


50 posted on 12/22/2011 10:17:49 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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