The Catholic (Santorum or Gingrich) vs. the Mormon (vanity)

Me

[MacMattico]

Would we have thought that possible a while ago?

As a Catholic, I'm quite proud!

I don't hate Mormons, but how can any reasonable individual believe what Mormons believe?

I am very happy for Rick Santorum today, and glad Newt is going after Romney. I know Romney's religion hasn't come up, but it will in any general election. Really, he has freedom to believe what he wants but it should be vetted if that's what will kill his candidacy in the general.

[Osage Orange]

Can America survive 4 years with yet another RINO Republican?

YES, WE CAN!

Can America survive 4 more years of a Marxist administration that hates our every freedom, wants to take away our guns, shred our Constitution & Bill of Rights?

NO, WE CAN’T!

I'm way past the point....where I don't think...in the long run...there's much difference between the two.

[Osage Orange]

I know plenty of lib's......that don't do any of those things.

But their still radical liberal socialist's......

In my mind Romney and Obama ain't much different..in how they would/will govern.

Frankly I TRUST Romney less...because I know exactly what Obama thinks. Romney is like the wind...you never know from day to day...which way it's going to blow.

[MayflowerMadam]

“I’m a Christian, but if a Buddhist believed in traditional values, smaller government and freedom of religion I’d vote for them.”

I’m with you 100% on that. The strictest (is that a word?) Constitutionalist is what’s important. Religion should not be a factor. This was the firm belief of the leader of the Baptists in Virginia while the Constitution was being written, John Leland. It would be nice if the President were a born-again Christian (in my opinion), but it’s most important that the President stands firm on all the freedoms outlined in the Constitution.

[RaceBannon]

Romney is not a Communist...but he does support socialised medicine and wrote the pattern for Obama care with MASSCARE

Romney is not a Muslim...but he is part of a religious cult that believes Jesus and Satan and YOU and ME are literally brothers or half brothers in the pre-existence

Romney has not kissed the ring of Saudi Princes...but he has kissed the rings of democrats in compromise

Romney has not apologized for American Excellence...nor has he promoted it

Romney is not connected to The Weathermen (murderers)...but his religion is connected to the Mountain Meadows Massacre

Romney has a Birth Certifcate...So does michele Bachmann

Romney is an American...single point, so was Bill Ayers

Romney is not bi-sexual (Larry Sinclair)...but he supports gay causes and gay rights and gay marriage

Romney is not a drug user like 0bama (Larry Sinclair)...are you sure he never did?

Romney is not connected to SEIU and America-haters...as former Gov of Mass, he never had fights with Unions, did he?

Romney is not endorsed by the Communist Party/USA...not yet

Romney is not endorsed by the Socialist Party/USA...noot yet

Romney is not endrsed by the Workers World Party/USA...not yet but all the three above LOVED Obama care which was based on ROMNEY CARE

Romney had executive experience before being elected...yeah, talking out of both sides of his mouth

Romney college records are available...so are Bill Ayers

Romney did not endorse Muslim Brotherhood (Egypt)...not yet he didn’t

Romney did not endorse CAIR...not yet he didnt

Romney showed up for work and made decisions...all liberal in scope and conclusion

Romney actually loves America...a socialised medicine America...

Etc............Etc........Etc.....

[Elsie]

Yup

[svcw]

Nice list.

[svcw]

Show me in the constitution where I am not permitted to use whatever criteria I choose when voting.
You are confusing the government verses the individual.
A persons belief system is the core of who they are, it is an important factor.

[reaganaut]

Excellent post. Well done.

[panaxanax]

Lame rebuttal.

Bill Ayers is not running for president.

[Elsie]

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#175

[Colofornian]

Romney did not endorse Muslim Brotherhood (Egypt)...not yet he didn’t Romney did not endorse CAIR...not yet he didnt

Well...hit the rewind button...previous election: Remember when Romney said he wouldn’t put a Muslim in the cabinet? He made his Mormonism relevant

Romney said then he wouldn't have a Muslim in his cabinet.

If religion was relevant then, why not now?...And why then isn't Romney's Mormonism likewise relevant?

[Colofornian]

Religion should not be a factor.

You are aware, aren't you, that the statement "Religion should not be a factor" -- is itself a statement from a specific religious vantage point.

IOW, your religious worldview, whatever it may be, informs you that you don't want to integrate religion into at least some of your political worldviews.

Therefore, your religious worldview of compartmentalization is a factor in your considerations.

Why? Why is it "A-OK" for your religious worldview that attempts to hermetically seal these things; but it's "not 'OK'" for somebody who integrates these things?

[restornu]

When I listen to Gingrich today I said i heard that before oh yes he is being coach or reads FR

[teg_76]

Well I don’t, but thanks for your opinion.

[MacMattico]

I’m just trying to be civil.

[MacMattico]

Yes there are but a Catholic is considered a member of a mainstream religion by a majority of Americans while many, many consider LDS a cult and won’t vote for a cult member.

[Elsie]

When I listen to Gingrich today I said i heard that before oh yes he is being coach or reads FR

Lots read: few ANSWER!

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#75

[Elsie]

... many, many consider LDS a cult and won’t vote for a cult member.

They DO?

I wonder WHY??

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With a Stepford Wife stare; MORMONs will claim the "Personages standing in the Light" were NOT demonic beings!

Galatians 1:7-10
7. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

 

 

2 Corinthians 11:14-15
14. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
15. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

 

Revelation 13:13-15
13. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14. And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

 

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother, “I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”

 

It appears that EXPERIENCES can be deceiving...

 

If one believes the Bible is correct, then, by that Standard, Mormonism fails the test.

If, however, you are convinced that the Bible is either in error, been corrupted or mis-interpreted, then you are free to believe whatever you wish.

[Elsie]

Perhaps #98 is more to your liking.

[ZX12R]

Yes there are but a Catholic is considered a member of a mainstream religion by a majority of Americans while many, many consider LDS a cult and won’t vote for a cult member.

I'm not sure I'd classify them as a cult, but then again, I'm not sure how I'd classify mormons. I do think that you have to be really naive to believe the nonsense about their book's origin. Or just plain stupid. Sorry mormons.