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Cop Issues Speeding Ticket, Asks Driver for a Date and She Sues Him
Yahoo! ^ | January 5, 2012 | Lauren Sher

Posted on 01/06/2012 8:10:43 AM PST by Altariel

A Chicago police officer allegedly turned a $132 speeding ticket into a pick-up opportunity when he later tracked down the female driver and asked her out, saying the least he could do for the money he cost her was to treat her to dinner, according to a lawsuit the woman filed in federal court.

Evagelina Paredes filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Chicago, accusing police officer Chris Collins of violating her privacy, according to the Associated Press. She alleges that after she was ticketed on Oct. 22, Collins searched for her address in the motor-vehicle database and left a handwritten note on the windshield of her car, which was parked outside her apartment in the Chicago suburb of Stickney, asking her out on a date.

In the note, a copy of which appeared was included in the court documents and was obtained by the Associated Press, the 27-year-old police officer tried to woo the female driver with humor and a seemingly heartfelt plea.

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1 posted on 01/06/2012 8:10:46 AM PST by Altariel
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To: Altariel

“I’ll take ‘Frivolous Lawsuit for 500’, Alex.”


2 posted on 01/06/2012 8:13:08 AM PST by Altariel (`)
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To: Altariel

Idiot move by the cop, but this woman is obviously a real bitch to sue over it.

‘Paredes claims that the note caused her to “suffer great fear and anxiety.”’

Yeah, I bet she’s really scared. Poor girl. Just an opportunity for a vile skank to make a quick buck if you ask me.


3 posted on 01/06/2012 8:14:33 AM PST by bigdirty
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To: Altariel

another Stupid cop. I’ve always said, if you’re too dumb to do anything else you can always become a cop. Must be a very good liar as well.


4 posted on 01/06/2012 8:15:21 AM PST by rjsclassics (bringing people together)
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To: Altariel

Can’t find a picture of her, Is she that hot as to risk a career over?


5 posted on 01/06/2012 8:15:53 AM PST by duckman (Herman 2012 was Zero's worst night mare.)
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To: Altariel

He went over the line. It’s no secret that the police records are for Offical Use Only, in fact I’d bet a signifiant amount that such warnings are present upon logging into the system.

My wife works for the airlines, and because celebrities, politicans and other highly popular people are in the database, has access to private and confidential information on these people. Merely looking up the personal data on one of these celebrities, without either the celebrity or a spokesman for that celebrity on the phone - is cause for immediate termination.

She has a strong case - Romeo should have used the ‘old fashioned’ method, and stalked her < /s>


6 posted on 01/06/2012 8:16:17 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Altariel

>>“I’ll take ‘Frivolous Lawsuit for 500’, Alex.”<<

I dunno — this is sorta creepy by the cop and if I was a female knowing he used his badge to track me down I would feel stalked.

But this should be a personnel action not a lawsuit (but agency law certainly allows the suit).


7 posted on 01/06/2012 8:16:45 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)
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To: freedumb2003

It’s a matter of principle. She should sue.

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” (Edmund Burke)


8 posted on 01/06/2012 8:19:32 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Altariel
In the lawsuit, which seeks unspecified payments in damages, according to the Associated Press, she alleges that Collins used his position as a police officer to "manipulate" her into going out with him.

From this statement it appears that she went out with him. Bad date? Otherwise, it would say something like " ... she alleges that Collins attempted to use his position as a police officer to "manipulate" her into going out with him."

There is still the question of the officer using official records to access her address (although her address should have been on his copy of the ticket).

9 posted on 01/06/2012 8:21:21 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: bigdirty
Yeah, I bet she’s really scared. Poor girl. Just an opportunity for a vile skank to make a quick buck if you ask me.

So, a cop uses confidential information to stalk her - to her HOME - and then leaves a note on her car - and SHE is a skank?

How would you feel if you got a ticket for speeding, then were to get the same note, on the windshield of your car, parked outside of YOUR home? No intimidation there, huh? You'd better go out, and give him whatever he wants ... because he's a Policeman, and tracked you back to where you live. Where do you draw the line? Honestly, what else could she have done, without fear of reprisal? Today, it's a note; tomorrow?

10 posted on 01/06/2012 8:21:26 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Altariel

Who wants an armed thug stalker?
I hope this costs this jackbooted idiot.
A lot.


11 posted on 01/06/2012 8:22:38 AM PST by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: Altariel

This guy needs a lesson in cop dating. He should have given her a warning ticket and then asked her out. I had that happen once.


12 posted on 01/06/2012 8:23:09 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: bigdirty

a bitch to sue over misuse of police authority and private information? yeah right

you call her all kinds of nasty names and yet nothing for the idiot who abused his access and his lawful authority


13 posted on 01/06/2012 8:23:45 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: bigdirty
this woman is obviously a real bitch

Revenge , ah Sweet revenge ...

Been there, done that ... Took my BS ticket to the judge and WON!!!

That judge was pissed, and it showed.

How did I win?

I had an appellate court decision on my side.

14 posted on 01/06/2012 8:24:44 AM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: 17th Miss Regt
There is still the question of the officer using official records to access her address (although her address should have been on his copy of the ticket).

Her address as part of the ticket, or looked up on the system are still considered 'Confidential'.

Consider, Tom Cruise or Penelope Cruz buys an airline ticket from you; and for security has to give you their home address. What do you suppose would happen if you were to 'drop by' and ask them for a date?

I'll save you the anxiety of finding out ... you WILL BE FIRED. No "if's" about it, no probation ... you are FIRED on the spot. If you look up your neighbor's account information out of pure boredom, and someone finds out you did this ... you will be fired. this is private and confidential information.

15 posted on 01/06/2012 8:25:47 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Altariel

If I worked at Walmart and I got her adress off her credit card receipt and then left a note asking for a date would that be a little creepy?
Not sure why someone should get a pass because they are a cop?


16 posted on 01/06/2012 8:28:17 AM PST by Leep
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To: Hodar
Honestly, what else could she have done, ...

Politely declined, logded a complaint with his superiors and/or local authorities before running off to US District Court to sue?

17 posted on 01/06/2012 8:29:08 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Altariel

Unfortunately there’s no real difference between “creepy” and “sweetly romantic”, other than whether it worked or not.


18 posted on 01/06/2012 8:30:11 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I'd give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: cuban leaf
Let's remain calm. In order for the officer to cite the person speeding she is required to give him both her license and her registration and/or proof of insurance depending on state. Most of these forms of ID have her address on them, further he ran said information before citing her which would have also returned her address.

If she could prove that he later used government resources to determine her address (and really why would he have to do that as he would have a report on his desk with her address from the citation issued) that would be a matter of principle. Otherwise all we have is cop that came across a woman he found attractive in the lawful pursuit of his duties where he was required to see her address. Is there a principle where he should use brain bleach so that he doesn't remember said address? Should a cop be prevented from asking any woman out that he has ever come across in his duties? What principle are we talking about here?

This is meritless lawsuit from a bitter person that got a ticket, probably angry that her flirtations didn't get her out of said ticket.

19 posted on 01/06/2012 8:32:26 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: bigdirty

“vile skank “

You wouldn’t say that if it were your daughter that was being stalked by a creepy cop.


20 posted on 01/06/2012 8:33:44 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate; Hodar
Politely declined, logded a complaint with his superiors and/or local authorities before running off to US District Court to sue?

I agree. Overkill; unless she really, really thought he was a perv. If he was just a dumb guy, then give him a break and let his superiors deal with his poor judgment in this arena.

21 posted on 01/06/2012 8:33:58 AM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: Altariel

Probably just a stupid cop (she was probably super polite and nice during the traffic stop and he thought she actually liked him), but it begs the question of propriety? Is he pulling over a lot of pretty girls, etc?


22 posted on 01/06/2012 8:37:23 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: driftdiver

Altariel
Since Nov 6, 2011
view home page, enter name:

Altariel hasn’t created an about page.

bigdirty
Since Nov 8, 2011
view home page, enter name:

bigdirty hasn’t created an about page.

Something doesn’t smell right here(Noob Trolls perhaps)!


23 posted on 01/06/2012 8:37:31 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Altariel

The cop may have been sincere, then again he might have saw an opportunity and used it to strong arm her for a date.

Dumb.


24 posted on 01/06/2012 8:37:48 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: Durus

You are obviously ignorant of the law and the difference between right and wrong. He DOES have a legal responsibility not to use information for personal purposes given to him in his official duties. Anyone with half a brain knows that. Since he obviously has no self control he needs to be dismissed and never again given access to confidential information.

No one with access to government information may use that information for personal purposes nor disclose that information to anyone else for their personal purposes.


25 posted on 01/06/2012 8:38:38 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Hodar

I don’t understand why he had to use a data base. He had her drivers license when wrote the ticket.

Just plane stupid.


26 posted on 01/06/2012 8:38:47 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: bigdirty

You figured out she’s a vile skank, just from this article?


27 posted on 01/06/2012 8:39:21 AM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: An.American.Expatriate
Politely declined, logded a complaint with his superiors and/or local authorities before running off to US District Court to sue?

Perhaps she could have opted that route; assuming she wouldn't then be harassed at home, have her tires slashed, get pulled over for 'broken tail light', 'running a stop sign' or other harassment issues. We all know that a cop can 'harass' individuals - it's not a secret and it's not unheard of either.

This sent a message, loud and clear to the department. Perhaps she was harassed previously? Perhaps the Department has a habit of 'looking up hotties' and doing this sort of crap. We don't know if this cop did it every day, to everyone in the neighborhood - or if this was his first abuse of power. But, at the end of the day, this was clearly an "Abuse of Power".

If she drops the case, the message will be sent. If she keeps the case open - the message will be sent to every cop .... every where. Personally, I like this sort of thing. My private and confidential information is to be kept private and confidential - or someone is gonna pay. If I wanted my private residence displayed for public consumption, I'd have it printed on my car door, or listed in the phone book. Those people I know, who I want to know where I live; are informed of my home's location, personally, warmly and confidentially.

28 posted on 01/06/2012 8:40:22 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Altariel

Why didn’t the moron use the White Pages web site...??? He really needed DMV database to find an address??


29 posted on 01/06/2012 8:40:26 AM PST by DrewsMum
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To: An.American.Expatriate
Politely declined, logded a complaint with his superiors and/or local authorities before running off to US District Court to sue?

I haven't followed this case, but maybe she did so and they blew her off?

30 posted on 01/06/2012 8:40:37 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: rjsclassics
I’ve always said, if you’re too dumb to do anything else you can always become a cop. Must be a very good liar as well.

I'll let my grandfather, father, and brother all know how dumb they are, but that they're all good liars.

Broad brush much?

The cop here was definitely out of line, but your comment makes his misbehavior pale in comparison.

31 posted on 01/06/2012 8:41:49 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: justlurking

I’m only going on the information provided ...


32 posted on 01/06/2012 8:42:13 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Altariel
I'm with the bitch on this one. Cops have a trust bestowed by the community. If we let them cross the line in interactions with the public we will:

1. Have more pretty women cited just because of their looks, i.e. cops fishing for more than just trafiic violators.

2. Same women would be pressured to comply to an ever increasing level of "cooperation".

Cops have to be aware that the public will not accept an abuse of trust.

Only problem is that the union and the department may hold him harmless, financially.

33 posted on 01/06/2012 8:42:58 AM PST by cicero2k
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To: Durus

—This is meritless lawsuit from a bitter person that got a ticket, probably angry that her flirtations didn’t get her out of said ticket. —

I will not say it “is” meritless, but I am open to the possibility that it is.

However, ANY information he got from here was information she had no choice but to give him, as the officer that pulled her over. As the “man” who conversed with her, he has no right to that information. She did not have the opportunity to voluntarily refuse to give the info.

IOW, you or I could not have gotten that information even if everything he acted on was what was on her license, if she chose for us not to have it. His badge took away that choice for her.

I think it stands.


34 posted on 01/06/2012 8:43:34 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Altariel

Craig Peyer


35 posted on 01/06/2012 8:44:22 AM PST by Mashood
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To: Altariel

And just what are her damages? No competent attorney would ever take this case on a contingency basis.


36 posted on 01/06/2012 8:46:07 AM PST by circlecity
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To: rjsclassics; Bon mots
Who wants an armed thug stalker? I hope this costs this jackbooted idiot. A lot.

another Stupid cop. I’ve always said, if you’re too dumb to do anything else you can always become a cop. Must be a very good liar as well.

I'm sure there are some cops with more than two or three functioning IQ points. I'm also sure there are some cops who grasp the concept of ethics. But this obviously isn't one of those cops.

37 posted on 01/06/2012 8:47:41 AM PST by LouAvul
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To: Altariel

Dang, I’d have been impressed by the effort, and if he was even remotely attractive, I’d have gone out with him. But I’m kind of a sucker for bald guys in uniforms. Especially if they smell good. ;^)


38 posted on 01/06/2012 8:48:36 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Anyone opposed to Newt should remember: we're not electing a messiah, we're electing a politician.)
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To: Hodar

you assume a lot ...

You originally asked what else could she have done. According to all the information presented - she got a note on her windshield and filed a federal civil rights complaint - there is no mention of any threats, any contact, nothing.

So, she COULD have done the things I mentioned first ...

As to HIS actions - definately not in order.


39 posted on 01/06/2012 8:49:00 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Gabz; rjsclassics

Pretty classy response, Gabz. Wonder why the attitude by some of the knuckleheads on this board at times. This guy is probably one of the “JBT” hate crowd that shows up like buzzards on roadkill every time there’s a thread like this.


40 posted on 01/06/2012 8:52:09 AM PST by jessduntno
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To: Jim from C-Town
I don’t understand why he had to use a data base. He had her drivers license when wrote the ticket.

Doesn't matter if he got her information off the ticket he wrote - that information is CONFIDENTIAL. It was given to him under duress, as part of providing ID for a traffic violation. It was not given to him "personally" - that is a very different thing. It's not a secret, in fact it's virtually "shouted into his face" during training, over and over again. Not just once, not twice; over and over, repeatedly. Private, Confidential, protected, personal - I don't know of any other words to make it more clear.

The mere act of a policeman using this information against another man, woman or child is rehensible. My wife works for the airlines, and has access to practically any politician or celebrity's personal information you can think of. Name the artist, actor, businessman or politian; and chances it's in her company's database. If she's bored at work, and even looks at this our of morbid curiosity - she will be fired. It's literally that bluntly stated. The words "Private and Confidential" have both meaning, and consequences.

41 posted on 01/06/2012 8:52:49 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar
In this case, the "data base" is probably nothing more sophisticated than the carbon copy of the citation book which he carries with him in the patrol car every day.

Back when I drove a taxicab, we had a few customers who thought they could get away with writing a bad check on us. Not a smart move considering that you had a record of where you dropped them off and picked them up. We eventually caught up with them. Maybe it would be considered stalking today.

42 posted on 01/06/2012 8:54:19 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

“Politely declined, logded a complaint with his superiors and/or local authorities before running off to US District Court to sue? “

And what really would that have accomplished? They would have made fun of him and ignored her. Possibly given her a few more speeding tickets to teach her a lesson.


43 posted on 01/06/2012 8:57:52 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: bigdirty
You are an ass.

The cop stalked her.

44 posted on 01/06/2012 9:01:53 AM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Durus
Is there a principle where he should use brain bleach so that he doesn't remember said address? Should a cop be prevented from asking any woman out that he has ever come across in his duties? What principle are we talking about here?

False assumptions on your part. Did the she willingly and personally provide a potential date with her address, or did she comply with a lawful demand, under duress? What were her choices? She really didn't have a choice, did she?

Now, perhaps you've never dealt with 'personal and private information' as part of your job. If you work in a hospital, you will get private and deeply personal information - can you use this for personal gain? Nope. How about running a credit card at Walmart and getting their address; then stalking your prey to their home? Nope. How about working with the airlines, and looking up the personal information of celebrities, then using that information to stalk them? Nope. In EVERY instance, getting fired is the least of your concerns, and take my word for it "you WILL be fired, on the spot". Additionally, the company may decide to press charges for damage to their reputation, for you abuse of their system. Why should cops be treated any differently?

Now, if she handed him her number/address and said "Call me sometime" - that is something completely different.

45 posted on 01/06/2012 9:02:15 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: CodeToad
I dunno. Maybe BigDirty is the creepy cop.
46 posted on 01/06/2012 9:05:05 AM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Altariel

He probably is a fan of “Friends.” :)


47 posted on 01/06/2012 9:07:47 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: Gabz
So....if they are related to you then they are by definition beyond reproach?

Broad brush much?

48 posted on 01/06/2012 9:08:34 AM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Vigilanteman
In this case, the "data base" is probably nothing more sophisticated than the carbon copy of the citation book which he carries with him in the patrol car every day.

Yup, and if you look at the cover on that book of tickets and carbon paper; you will find a notice that the contents of that book are Personal, Private and Confidential. That information is not now, never was, and never will be the private property of the officer, nor was, is now, nor will ever be, available for the officer to use as he see's fit. And, isn't that the way you would want it?

Or, would you like to have an officer who just doesn't like the way you look, to be able to track you at home, leave intimdating messages on your car, parked outside of your home? Perhaps follow you home, or follow you to work 'as part of his route' he just 'happens' to follow every day? Perhaps a few more tickets to get you to comply to his whims? Maybe follow you into the parking lot where you work and eyeball you as you head in. Follow you to the grocery store, your friend's homes .... After all, you address was in his book; and every time that book get's full - you just 'happen' to run another stop sign.

49 posted on 01/06/2012 9:08:46 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar

There is an easy fix- spend a little money and buy a PO Box. Then register your cars and your license to that box. Do not know about other states, but I have done that here in Florida. No home address on either one. Besides this, though, I think one can access home addresses on any People Finder site on the internet. Try it.


50 posted on 01/06/2012 9:11:55 AM PST by tenthirteen
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