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Romney would do worse than Santorum in a General Election - [Vanity]
Vanity ^ | 1/11/2012 | Self

Posted on 01/11/2012 10:24:07 AM PST by PieterCasparzen

Interesting map at electoral-vote.com as it pertains to Mittens and Santorum.

If things played out according to the map and NO "Strong Dem" states went Repub, a Republican would have to win the following "Barely Dem" states:

MT = 3 MO = 10 IN = 11 OH = 18 NC = 15 FL = 29

And then they'd need 17 electoral votes out of 4 states that are "weak Democrat":

NH = 4 CO = 9 IA = 6 VA = 13

Mittens would win NH, but that only buys 4.

Santorum was strong in IA, would stand a good chance there.

They have an advantage over other Repubs because Romney and Santorum both have home states that are strong Democrat.

However, PA has 20 electoral votes and MA just 11.

It's fairly safe to assume that they would both win in their home states.

So if things played out according to that map, Santorum would not need the 17 "Weak Dem" electoral votes if he already had 20 from winning PA.

Mittens, however, would have 11 from MA and 4 from NH, so he would need 2 more, meaning he would have to beat Obama in either CO, IA or VA.

Of course, I'm assuming that all the Repub states on the map go Repub against Obama, which for Mittens may be a tall order, considering the states are:

AZ = 11 ND = 3 SD = 3 GA = 16 SC = 9

So SC may well be a bellweather as to how well Mittens might fare if he somehow makes it past conservatives in the Repub primary.

FL may choose Mitt over Santorum in the Primary, but in the General election, IMHO, both would have a good chance of beating Obama there.


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Santorum would do better than Mittens against the current occupant in a general election, IMHO.
1 posted on 01/11/2012 10:24:12 AM PST by PieterCasparzen
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To: PieterCasparzen

You make some good points but Santorum has said too many crazy things that are so far removed from main stream society, there is no way the average voter could ever vote for him. There was another article in today’s paper here in San Antonio this morning quoting some of these quotes.


2 posted on 01/11/2012 10:27:38 AM PST by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

No he wouldn’t. Romney will attract independents and undecideds who are tired of a Marxist and want a businessman in office. Santorum appeals to evangelicals and thats it. Social issues aren’t the hot button this year, the economy is. Santorum collapsed after Iowa because he only had religious support in IA. He’s not our path to victory over the Muslim Marxist, although I’m sure he’s a good man.


3 posted on 01/11/2012 10:27:58 AM PST by Astronaut
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To: Astronaut

“appeals to evangelicals and thats it.”

Really? He’d lose Catholics to Obama?


4 posted on 01/11/2012 10:31:17 AM PST by Grunthor (At least he is better than Obama! Is NOT a rallying cry!)
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To: Astronaut

I am not a Santorum supporter, but that just doesn’t play out in real life voting. Santorum is not a single issue guy who only appeals to ‘Evangelicals’. He’s a solid conservative on foreign issues and fiscal, too.

Additionally, a moderate Romney does little more to bring moderates to our side than McCain did 4 years ago. Those hugging the middle hardly ever pull in votes...it is those that present a clear alternative. Both Mitt and Santorum could easily beat Obama if they articulate a conservative alternative. The only difference is whether Romney would really mean it.


5 posted on 01/11/2012 10:40:22 AM PST by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: Grunthor
Really? He’d lose Catholics to Obama?

Obama won the Catholic vote in 2008: http://www.cathnews.com/article.aspx?aeid=9996

Santorum lost the Catholic vote in PA in his landslide 2006 loss: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/132228/pa-senate-race/kate-obeirne

Past performance does not point to Santorum being a sure thing with Catholic voters.
6 posted on 01/11/2012 10:42:29 AM PST by Happy Valley Dude
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To: DallasSun
You make some good points but Santorum has said too many crazy things that are so far removed from main stream society, there is no way the average voter could ever vote for him.

Absolutely not - this is the idea that the Republican establishment markets so that Republicans will nominate their guy, Romney.

In the general elections I describe, when independents saw this choice:

A) Obama

B) Santorum

Most would choose to vote against 4 more years of Obama.

Approximately 75% of Americans self-identify as Christians.

For a Christian to vote against a Christian candidate because they are "too Christian", and instead vote for a candidate who is a far-left idealogue, muslim sympathizer, anti-semite and who is bankrupting the country would require them to buy into leftist propaganda rather completely.

I doubt Obama would get more than 20% of the Christian vote.
7 posted on 01/11/2012 10:42:29 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Santorum would lose handily IMO (though would make a decent VP).

Like it or not, his schtick is social issues. He’s cast himself into the role of a statist culture warrior. And while that may reverberate strongly with SoCons, it doesn’t independents. Plus, FiCons don’t care for Santorum’s record on fiscal matters.


8 posted on 01/11/2012 10:47:09 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: PieterCasparzen

That was not the idea of the “republican establishment”...that came from me. A voter...and a Christian. It is not a matter of his being “too Christian”.it is a matter of his being whacky. More whacky does not constitute being “more Christian.” Thank goodness


9 posted on 01/11/2012 10:47:12 AM PST by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

He was not running against a White House occupant who demonstrates these ideas or agendas:

anti-semitism
anti-Christian
pro-muslim
anti-American
disrespect for the U.S. military

so Obama’s support for the homo agenda and abortion, part of standard Democrat fare that he has face before, is just icing on the cake.

Only the far left fringe of Christians will vote for Obama.

Even evangelicals are voting for Santorum.

(the news media has no clue of Christian denominations, their Christophobia makes all of Christianity seem like a blur to them).

Running against Obama, for someone with conservative credentials that are reasonabley reliable, would be like running against chairman mao and an ayatola all rolled into one.


10 posted on 01/11/2012 10:49:36 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: DallasSun
Santorum has said too many crazy things
How about good ol' Mitt: "I purchased a gun when I was a young man. I've been a hunter pretty much all my life." (Romney's campaign later said he'd been hunting twice, once when he was 15, and once in 2006 at a Republican fundraiser
“I don’t speak for the scientific community, of course, but I believe the world’s getting warmer. I can’t prove that, but I believe based on what I read that the world is getting warmer. And number two, I believe that humans contribute to that. I don’t know how much our contribution is to that, because I know that there have been periods of greater heat and warmth in the past but I believe we contribute to that. And so I think it’s important for us to reduce our emissions of pollutants and greenhouse gases that may well be significant contributors to the climate change and the global warming that you’re seeing.” ~Mitt Romney, his view about global warming during a campaign stop in New Hampshire, June 2011

And the crazy flip flop:

”My view is that we don’t know what’s causing climate change on this planet. And the idea of spending trillions and trillions of dollars to try to reduce CO2 emissions is not the right course for us.” ~Mitt Romney, about his views on global warming during a campaign stop in Pittsburgh, October 28, 2011

“Don’t try to stop the foreclosure process. Let it run its course and hit the bottom.” ~Mitt Romney, defending banks and kicking people out of their homes.

“Corporations are people, my friends.” ~Mitt Romney, declaring that corporations are people in front of a crowd of real people in Iowa.

11 posted on 01/11/2012 10:49:53 AM PST by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: An American!

Absolutely. Mitt outdoes everyone when it comes to past whacky comments...Mitt’s main problem is his lying in my opinion. He is way too slick...slimey...smarmy.


12 posted on 01/11/2012 10:52:24 AM PST by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

And 20 per cent of the Christian vote? You cannot be serious. You are saying 80 per cent of the Christian democrats are not going to vote for Obama? You know that is not true.


13 posted on 01/11/2012 10:55:09 AM PST by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Romney received thousands of delegates in NH evidently. I’m hearing everywhere that he is the WINNER and ELECTED.

I am tired of NH deciding who will be the Republican nominee. We need to divide it into at least 5 states so people elsewhere can vote. (like Texas, Oklahoma,Nebraska, Colorado, etc.)


14 posted on 01/11/2012 11:09:29 AM PST by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: DallasSun
Perhaps you could source and reference these 'crazy things'......

..or is it more slander from the MSM?

15 posted on 01/11/2012 11:12:48 AM PST by Guenevere (....We press on.....)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Slick Mitt would set the conservative movement back for at least a decade.


16 posted on 01/11/2012 11:15:01 AM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: DallasSun

I may be wrong, he may get 30% - but anywhere near half of Christian voters voting for Obama is a pipe dream, IMHO.

Obama doesn’t even want the job, everybody but Axelrod and Jarrett is abandoning him.


17 posted on 01/11/2012 11:16:54 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

This election cycle, Santorum would absolutely crush Obama in Pennsylvania and Ohio.


18 posted on 01/11/2012 11:17:28 AM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: Guenevere

Has nothing to do with the MSM....He is on video saying these things...over and over...It is not difficult to research. Unfortunately. His comments are readily available for anyone who is interested in finding them.


19 posted on 01/11/2012 11:18:06 AM PST by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Guenevere

Has nothing to do with the MSM....He is on video saying these things...over and over...It is not difficult to research. Unfortunately. His comments are readily available for anyone who is interested in finding them.


20 posted on 01/11/2012 11:18:22 AM PST by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

You may be right. I just know on election night I will be holding my breath. I just know I cannot vote for Romney or Santorum. I look at the field...and am left choosing between Gingrich or Huntsman..and I do not think Huntsman stands a chance. And I am not fond of Newt. This is a hard election for me. So difficult. I am not happy. I know so many people who feel the same. How did we get here?


21 posted on 01/11/2012 11:24:57 AM PST by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Utmost Certainty

“Santorum would lose handily IMO (though would make a decent VP).”

Newt has the cash and Santorum has the VP personality. They could really have a positive PR earthquake by uniting right now against Romney. They have to do it now because it will be too late once we get past FL if Slick Willard runs the table.


22 posted on 01/11/2012 11:26:43 AM PST by lodi90
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To: DallasSun
When did it become acceptable at Free Republic to 'slander' Santorum with nebulous references such as .....'he says crazy things'....without citing your source???

How do we verify this?.....are we to take you at your word?...

This is not acceptable.....and is not condoned on Free Republic.

23 posted on 01/11/2012 11:30:13 AM PST by Guenevere (....We press on.....)
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To: Guenevere

Oh for heavens sakes. I never slandered anyone. And I gave my source when I said it was in my San Antonio paper. MySA.com. Easy to find and verify. Good grief.


24 posted on 01/11/2012 11:33:35 AM PST by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

I would trust Santorum with our Presidency. I could NEVER trust Gingrich with it, no matter how smart he is or what he knows or how well he debates. He is a very insecure, needy man, much like Obama and Clinton, and people like that are dishonest and will do what benefits them over the country. I have said this about Gingrich for over a decade at least on FR. (Though I am enjoying him in the debates.)

But if Santorum does well in an upcoming election, he needs, needs, needs to come out and say “Well, yes, everyone knows how I feel PERSONALLY about things like abortion and gay marriage. But there is no man or woman alive who doesn’t have personal convictions. If someone out there watching this is pro gay marriage or even in one, he or she might have opinions about the Christian church that I wouldn’t like, either. That’s what makes this such a great country. But I will be the President of every American, and my duty will be to keep America free and prosperous for each and every one of them.”


25 posted on 01/11/2012 11:40:43 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Guenevere; All

I have to laugh.

People thinking that “only Mitt” can beat Obama.

If they read my post and followed it, they’d see that Santorum’s electoral vote prospects are much better than Mitt’s.

I based my analysis on this:

http://electoral-vote.com/

ALL the hardcore Repub support is in the southeast - which is going to be NO GREAT FAN of a NORTHEAST guy like Mitt.

Mitt’s best support is where Democrat support is strongest ! These are the states that Obama will most likely win.

Electoral vote breakdown:

Dem strong 253
Dem weak 32
Dem barely 73

Dem Total 358


Rep barely 13
Rep weak 42
Rep strong 125

Rep Total 180


Remember 270 is needed to win.

The Repub needs all 180 of R plus all 73 Dem barely plus 17 more votes.

Santorum has the biggest advantage of home state of ANY Repub candidate - his is a “strong dem” and has 20 electoral votes, more than Mitt’s 11 from MA.

So he does not need the 17 “Dem weak” votes to win.


26 posted on 01/11/2012 11:41:13 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Yaelle

That was great. Ever think about speech writing?


27 posted on 01/11/2012 11:43:20 AM PST by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: PieterCasparzen
"Doing better" is irrelevant, assuming either one would win the general.

My [positive] dream is to see the present incarnation of the GOP killed. I would not object to Romney winning the nomination and losing the general. Events that put the fed in bad light, and so make the public want and demand a weaker fed, are positive in my eyes.

28 posted on 01/11/2012 11:47:56 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: DallasSun

That was great. Ever think about speech writing?


All the time. It is definitely a dream job of mine. Current job: raising 4 kids, the youngest sleeping on me right now in a fit of teething agony.

But every speech I hear I note whether I could have written one better or not. Many I could have improved. Actually, I do not like Romney, but his speech last night was pretty good, sadly. People might believe it as if he meant any of it. And my guy, Santorum, gave a lackluster speech, though at least he was mostly winging it. I hear that Romney just repeats lines from his written-for-him stump speech in his acceptance speeches.


29 posted on 01/11/2012 11:55:17 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Please do not give up on your dream. You are so articulate and eloquent...plus so sensible. That is very rare. I sympathize with you holding a teething baby. Wish I was there..I would give you a break and hold him awhile. I have a 9 year old grandson. I remember those teething days...moreso..the nights.


30 posted on 01/11/2012 11:59:51 AM PST by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Yaelle

I am a frustrated editor. Oft times, I have to fight the urge to grab my red pen and correct something in my newspaper.


31 posted on 01/11/2012 12:02:08 PM PST by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Guenevere

For the record, I did not request, nor do I desire, instruction from YOU...regarding what is and is not acceptable on Free Republic.


32 posted on 01/11/2012 12:10:04 PM PST by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Utmost Certainty
Santorum would lose handily IMO

Where does that leave us? In my opinion, Newt crashes and burns if nominated. No Santorum and no Gingrich leaves us poor in the nominee category.

33 posted on 01/11/2012 12:14:26 PM PST by Ingtar (If the GOP wants my vote, they should start fielding candidate for whom I can vote - Jemian)
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To: DallasSun
Mr. Jim has strongly advised we keep it positive at FR.

We can highlight or build up or report on our chosen candidate....

..but we are not to get into food fights and tear down other poster's candidates.

I'm fully in Santorum's camp.

I say nice things about him.

There are other candidates I don't care for, but I stick with my candidate of choice and try to build him up for others .....

When facts are presented, ie links to articles, etc....that is fair game.

But to suggest Senator Santorum 'talks crazy' and not site sources, is not kind or fair..

Why don't you give us verbatim quotes and who wrote the piece and let us consider it or refute it if need be.

34 posted on 01/11/2012 2:18:27 PM PST by Guenevere (....We press on.....)
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To: Guenevere

Stop. Just stop. You are in no position to go around the forum admonishing anyone. I know exactly what JR has said and I always respect his opinions and wishes. But for YOU to say you do not get in food fights? I will address that in private with you.....your comment...you try to build up your candidates for others????? That is so revealing and does not reflect well on you...Did you see the article Sunday..also in my paper..feel free to research...one said. Santorum..while in the Senate, was a bully without the power to be a bully. He was a name caller...Trent Lott said hopefully Santorum had matured and grown up as he has gotten older..for Republicans to be saying this does not bode well for Rick. He is your candidate. I have no problem with that. It is you who always has a problem with those who disagree with you. I do not expect or want all to agree with me. We all have a right to our opinions...btw..there is a thread up using the word crazy AND moonbat!! You better go over there and admonish the publisher thereof! I do not need your admonishments. Thank you for your concern for this forum. I have been here over a decade. I know it as well as you. Hope everything is Peachy with you.


35 posted on 01/11/2012 2:50:32 PM PST by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Astronaut
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Astronaut,


There's substantial evidence (as reported by the Wall Street Journal) that Mitt Romney-Bain Capital "did in fact" financially "rape and pillage" some corporations ...

WITHOUT A THOUGHT to cleaning up their business.

Care to argue with the Wall Street Journal about that ?



Newt Ginrich's Press Release today (2012-01-11) about Mitt Romney and Bain Captital's "Vulture Capitalism" ....


Spartanburg, SC – Newt 2012 released the following statement from Press Secretary R.C. Hammond responding to misleading reports on an exchange Newt Gingrich had with a voter in Spartanburg, SC


Regarding Mitt Romney’s record at Bain Capital (during which the phrase “I crossed the line” was never uttered from Newt, despite the headline from Politico):

“This issue at hand is neither about Bain Capital, private equity firms, nor about capitalism.

It is about Mitt Romney’s judgment and character. It was Governor Romney’s decision to base his candidacy, in large part, on his background as a portfolio manager.

Thus, it is entirely legitimate to ask questions about whether he is accurately presenting how he conducted himself during that career.

“Reports by the Wall Street Journal and others contradict Governor Romney's claims that it was his goal at Bain Capital to make companies more successful.

In fact, there were cases where Bain Capital made huge profits and left companies bankrupt.

Further reports have cast doubt on Governor Romney's claim that he was responsible for 100,000 jobs being created thanks to his work at Bain Capital.

“Instead of accepting the responsibility to answer questions about his business background, the Romney campaign is throwing up a smokescreen about an attack on capitalism.

That’s just more pious baloney from Mitt Romney and his campaign.”


====================================


As usual, Newt Gingrich "nailed it" perfectly ...

We're now (breathlessly) waiting for Mitt Romney's response ...

... including releasing his Federal Income Tax Returns ...




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36 posted on 01/11/2012 3:17:57 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: FreedomProtector
Slick Mitt would set the conservative movement back for at least a decade.

How? Conservatives have core values that don't change over time or because of the candidate. How is Mitt going to affect that? Do you think the Tea Party Movement will not be as interested this time as last?

37 posted on 01/11/2012 3:24:13 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
The Tea Party has already been affected, and will be squashed into oblivion if Romney is nominated.

You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal.

38 posted on 01/11/2012 3:28:01 PM PST by rintense
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To: DallasSun
I apologize ....this has upset you.

I feel the need to defend Senator Santorum when folks post information that I think is incorrect.

Truce

39 posted on 01/11/2012 6:45:41 PM PST by Guenevere (....We press on.....)
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To: DallasSun
"He was a name caller...Trent Lott said hopefully Santorum had matured and grown up as he has gotten older.."

LOL....criticism from RINO Lott is an absolute plus for Santorum.

40 posted on 01/11/2012 7:07:45 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem. meum)
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To: FreedomProtector; PieterCasparzen
"This election cycle, Santorum would absolutely crush Obama in Pennsylvania and Ohio."

That could bring another intangible factor into play. PA and OH not only hold a nice chunk of electoral votes, but are both in the eastern time zone. A strong, clear showing there by Santorum would reflect in early exit polls that could discourage a lot of dem voters out west.

41 posted on 01/11/2012 8:04:38 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem. meum)
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To: rintense
You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal.

What I was saying is that the conservative base will still be intact. Romney may move policies to the left but the conservatives will not support him in that.

42 posted on 01/11/2012 8:37:37 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: DallasSun

You are very sweet. Maybe one day. I’d love to even be an intern for free for a speechwriter.

And thanks for the offer of arms in the night. Good thing babies are so utterly precious, because some days or nights are hard. Still, now that she’s almost 5 months, most days and nights are getting pretty good. As long as you don’t expect to get much done. :)


43 posted on 01/12/2012 12:25:22 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Just curious. What policy that has been moved to the left has ever been moved back to the right? One of the main reasons we're in the mess we are now is because of FDRs entitlement programs- programs that were supposed to be temporary.

This is the primary reason we need a conservative President who will kill healthcare. Once the masses are full insured, there will be no turning back.

44 posted on 01/12/2012 3:17:04 AM PST by rintense
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To: PieterCasparzen; All
Someone has brought it to my attention that my posts are not pleasing, instructive or kind....

...and I realize this is true.

I apologize to any and all for unkind posts.....

...I have become very opinionated through the years and it doesn't reflect my love for Christ.

I need to donate today...

..and then I probably will leave FR.

FR is great......!!!

I am not.

45 posted on 01/12/2012 4:42:43 AM PST by Guenevere (....We press on.....)
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To: Guenevere
...I have become very opinionated through the years and it doesn't reflect my love for Christ.

Don't be hasty...Revelation 3: 15-16...I believe He is calling on us to take a firm stand; one way or the other...no 'moderates'. :-)

46 posted on 01/12/2012 5:03:49 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?
I agree!....but I have become so cynical in my responses and to have someone call me out was an exhortation I needed!

I'm still opinonated.....and don't hold with compromise, especially in politics.

But I have lost the ability, I fear, to express my opinons succinctly but kindly.

47 posted on 01/12/2012 5:18:08 AM PST by Guenevere (....We press on.....)
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To: PieterCasparzen; onyx
I strongly disagree.

Santorum is a better MAN than Romney, I have no quibble with that.

It's important to be clear about what elections have become - a cross between American Idol, the Oscar Show, and Jackass.

There is NO POSSIBILITY WHATSOEVER that a candidate who has discussed (on an intellectual and spiritual plane) contraception or fornication can be elected to any statewide or national office in this country at the present time, given the degraded state of the culture.

On top of that, Santorum comes across, on TV (which is where the battle is gong to be fought) as a little boy, and also as one who lacks confidence.

Neither Romney nor Santorum has a prayer vs. Obama, given the nature of the process and the team they are fighting against.

I thought the Palin CIABN (campaign in all but name) had found the seams in the Obama defense, so as to simultaneously a) Have good visuals, b) Stick up for the little guy, c) Take down Obama by telling the truth about him, and d) Symbolize the nation's core population and values by her very existence, without ever speaking a word.

Unfortunately, IMO, we have no replacement who can perform all of these tasks, and all will be required for victory.

48 posted on 01/12/2012 5:27:49 AM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Jim Noble; PieterCasparzen

Romney is a certain loser, and thanks to Romney for his scorched earth, attack ads on Newt Gingrich, Romney made it possible for Santorum to surge in Iowa.

The GOP isn’t called the stupid party without good reasons. OPEN primaries wherein same day registration is permitted and Independents are allowed to vote, along with democrats registering Republican at the door, has to be the most insane policy ever.

No wonder Romney and Ron Paul are are coming in first and second! Close the primaries to Registered Republicans who have previously voted in the last election and we will get a wholly different result.

Jim, you’re right about Sarah Palin, but she didn’t run and Todd told Greta he’s happy she’s sitting this one out. The lamestream and GOP-E have their guy, Romney and the money is behind him. Nobody else need apply, thankyouverymuch. Even Faux News is in the tank for Romney. Can’t upset the apple cart. Go-along-to-get-along. Sarah Palin wouldn’t stand for that and Newt Gingrich won’t either.

Newt is bloodied, but he’s a fighter. I think he’d fare best against Obama. Santorum is a losing senator from PA, but he’d fare better than Romney. Perry is bloodied, but he’d fare better than Romney.

Romney will send the GOP the way of the Whigs and that’s the silver lining.

Thanks for pinging me.


49 posted on 01/12/2012 6:23:26 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Slick Mitt would set the conservative movement back for at least a decade.

How? Conservatives have core values that don't change over time or because of the candidate. How is Mitt going to affect that? Do you think the Tea Party Movement will not be as interested this time as last?

Making a slick, oily, arrogant, politician who ran to to left of Ted Kennedy the face of conservatism will set the conservative movement back for at least a decade.

50 posted on 01/12/2012 6:46:02 AM PST by FreedomProtector
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