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Urination Excitation! (Are the Marines Being Set Up?)
self | 1/13/2012 | LS

Posted on 01/13/2012 6:04:20 AM PST by LS

Edited on 01/13/2012 6:21:44 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

The buzz today is Drudge's headline, "P@$$ed" and the associated Wapo blog

Most Freepers know that I'm as far from a conspiracy theorist as one gets. But this seems too convenient. You have:

a president whose polling is tanking, whose re-elect is deeply in trouble, and whose policies cannot possibly improve things in the next eight months;

a president who despises the military (there is a new book out by Michael Hastings, The Operators, reporting that Obama in Baghdad didn't want to shake any more soldiers' hands or sign books http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/book-depicts-cranky-obama-on-baghdad-visit;

a president who desperately wants out of Afghanistan and Iraq and who has refused to take the recommendations of his senior generals;

and now, out of nowhere, a video of Marines "desecrating" the bodies of Taliban killers suddenly appears. (For the record, I seem to recall Patton urinating in the Rhine and it was cheered by the press. Also, for the record, I seem to recall Taliban/al-Qaeda types actually cutting off the heads of living Americans, and I'm supposed to get upset by urinating on the dead body of an enemy? Sorry, gotta meditate on that one).

Also for the record, to me the video is extremely staged. The bodies are neatly positioned, the Marines lined up, and obviously this wasn't spur-of-the-moment passion, er, erupting. At the end, the photographer apparently says, "Is that it?" So the video was meant to be released.

As I say, I'm no conspiracy theorist, but for an administration desperate to be hailed for something positive and desperate to radically reduce the size of the military, this little incident seems tailor made.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; marines; marinespissed; obama
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To: mnehring
LOL. Good one.

BTW, Feb. 2 is groundhog day and also the State of the Union speech.

In one case you have an insignificant little creature pontificating about the future and the other is a ground hog and his shadow.

51 posted on 01/13/2012 6:53:49 AM PST by LS
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To: LS

I have the utmost respect for our fighting forces; I do volonteer work at the VA and have for years now. I wasn’t able to serve, but I try to help those that do.

All I can say is that assuming this video isn’t “made up”, it really makes me sad.


52 posted on 01/13/2012 6:56:44 AM PST by Rich21IE
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To: LS

Hey you guys! (whizzing sound), you may want to put some aftershave on before you go vote.


53 posted on 01/13/2012 6:56:44 AM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: NavyCanDo

Which is why I keep wondering if a) these really were Marines, or b) it wasn’t a put-up job.


54 posted on 01/13/2012 6:56:51 AM PST by LS
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To: cripplecreek

I think the explanation to all this is very simple - enlarged prostates.


55 posted on 01/13/2012 6:58:41 AM PST by fhayek
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To: LS
In the immortal words of Osama Bin Laden to Mullaha Omar
“The news is 90% of the preparation for the battle”.

Got to rouse the passions of the muzzies up before a terrorist attack don't you know.

57 posted on 01/13/2012 7:04:23 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: justa-hairyape
some of us remember American bodies being hung from bridges.

That's the first thing that came to mind when this hit the news.....we are not going to see what is done to our troops by muslims for the most part...but our soldiers do...daily. These muslims were dead and gone...our guys are alive and tortured and beheaded by these beasts. I don't ever see any of our soldiers as guilty of anything that occcurs in a war zone...it's war...and this stuff is going to happen...that's just the reality of war.

58 posted on 01/13/2012 7:05:52 AM PST by caww
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59 posted on 01/13/2012 7:06:37 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-Free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: LS

Maybe they’re “Occupy Afghanistan” Marines.


60 posted on 01/13/2012 7:07:28 AM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: TomGuy
CAIR is notorious for trying to stir up trouble. They have been trying to claim hate crimes against Muslims for years, but only had a few cases that even seem close. But, they keep trying.

Cair is an arm of Islmic Stealth Jihad in America......it isn't so much their suites...that's secondary...it's all about making Americans "Afraid" to speak out and that's 'political terrorism'...keeping the pressure on , and CAir does that 24/7.

61 posted on 01/13/2012 7:13:17 AM PST by caww
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To: RedEyeJack

Piss on ‘em again, and show it live in Prime Time.


62 posted on 01/13/2012 7:14:50 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: ontap
Being a former Marine if these guy's did this and posted it themselves they deserve whatever punishment they get.

FORMER Marine? You mean like Congressman John Murtha?

63 posted on 01/13/2012 7:16:05 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: Rich21IE

Doesn’t make me sad in the least.....our guys are at war and this stuff happens on every war field . Had you served in a war zone you might understand this far better..it just goes with the turf they’re on.

The media is making far more of a deal about this then necessary but of course they are part of tool box being used to take our country down and demoralize our military....so they’ll certainly make our guys look bad. When was the last time we saw the mainline media say anything favorable about our troops...unless OBama was on stage?


64 posted on 01/13/2012 7:18:35 AM PST by caww
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To: LS

Thoughts:

1. Hope they ate a pork-heavy meal before the event.

2. Hope the dead hadn’t been gay or anything, because, hey, you know, I mean that would have been a capital offense, or something.


65 posted on 01/13/2012 7:24:43 AM PST by dagogo redux
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I say, we ask the several pissed-on Taliban fighters directly if they are still upset or sore about it.....

CASE CLOSED.

66 posted on 01/13/2012 7:27:12 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Romneybots will appear left & right on FR in the next few weeks/months. Jim/Mods, PLEASE zap 'em!)
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To: Rich21IE
All I can say is that assuming this video isn’t “made up”, it really makes me sad.

You know what makes me sad? Watching the Wounded Warriors videos where the young war veteran standing on his one good leg picks up his child with his one good arm. Or the young father bouncing his baby on his metal "knees". Or any of the other warriors who suffered life-changing injuries from "IEDs". Some of them will have trouble peeing for the rest of their lives (yes, bombs cause injuries to their private parts as much as their public ones).

Learn about the Wounded Warrior Project

67 posted on 01/13/2012 7:33:42 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: central_va

I haven’t clicked on your link, so maybe I’m misunderstanding your point.

That said, it seems like you’re being very vulgar and disrespectful toward both God and the US military. Am I misunderstanding you?


68 posted on 01/13/2012 7:40:24 AM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: butterdezillion

It could be as simple as Obama wanting to get the Alice in Wonderland party off the front page. He is that insecure.


69 posted on 01/13/2012 7:42:21 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: LS

For all those who have never been in combat, these things happen. I would love to see the ground commanders tell the troops. Pack em up boys we are going home and send them all back to occupy the white house and clean out the riff raft.


70 posted on 01/13/2012 7:53:24 AM PST by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: arasina

And what have you done Ahole!


71 posted on 01/13/2012 8:33:48 AM PST by ontap
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To: LS

We need to treat the Taliban dead with honor. BRING IN THE FLAME THROWERS AND FRY THEM!


72 posted on 01/13/2012 8:40:55 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( P!$$ on the Taliban)
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To: ontap
In the Roman mind there were two types of military virtue - often seen to be at odds - “virtus” or manliness/bravado and discipline.

These troops, in an excess of “virtus” - lost essential discipline, and created a PR victory for the enemy.

They should be disciplined, for excess “virtus”, for loss of discipline, for inadvertently aiding the enemy - and for the blatant stupidity of doing it on film and posting the film online.

73 posted on 01/13/2012 8:49:34 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: mnehring

That, is a good one.


74 posted on 01/13/2012 8:55:21 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: allmendream

I agree completely...but don’t expect some on FR to agree.


75 posted on 01/13/2012 8:56:09 AM PST by ontap
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Well, you know what the Army did to the Filipino Moro Muslim insurrenctionists . . . . threw the bodies in graves with pig carcasses!


76 posted on 01/13/2012 8:58:42 AM PST by LS
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To: sportutegrl

His narcissism is a national security risk.


77 posted on 01/13/2012 9:09:43 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: LS

It’s a valid question. Somebody on the thread said that one of the guys ID’ed has been out of the military for a while. If that’s true, then this has to be an old video and the story of how/why it “surfaced” right now deserves to be investigated.

In addition to the video being old, it may well have been staged, based on the things you observed - the photographer saying “Is that all?” at the end, and the tidy layout of everything as if it was staged. I haven’t looked at the video myself so I can’t vouch for those details. Most posters here aren’t really engaging with the evidence you presented for your theory.

Unfortunately, we do know that the Obama regime has no problem with staging “fake but accurate” images - as can be seen by their staged photo of people anxiously watching a screen where the Bin Laden assassination was (not) being shown.

Somebody suggested that the timing of this could be to prepare for another attack. I’ve been reading up on the Holocaust and realizing just how much the Reichstag Fire was used to get Hitler’s nose into the tent. That’s how tyrants always get their foot in the door. Like a computer trojan - get somebody to believe their computer is in danger and click on the box, and voila! you’ve got full control to take over everything.

Obama tried fomenting trouble with OWS but people could see through that stupidity so it didn’t work. So now Obama has to come up with something else to be the spark to ignite the communist-slamist takeover of America. Could be the Israel and Iran situation. Maybe this attempt to raise another Abu Ghraib scandal is a back-up plan to that, or maybe this is to serve the double purpose of demoralizing the troops and distracting the public while he grabs more unconstitutional power in a race for martial law before the judges find him in contempt for refusing to fork over his documentation.

Lots to think about, for sure.


78 posted on 01/13/2012 9:32:09 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: allmendream; ontap
Col.Allen West.. makes his statement...he's been there done that..I'll take his position....

As Follows:

"I have sat back and assessed the incident with the video of our Marines urinating on Taliban corpses. I do not recall any self-righteous indignation when our Delta snipers Shugart and Gordon had their bodies dragged through Mogadishu. Neither do I recall media outrage and condemnation of our Blackwater security contractors being killed, their bodies burned, and hung from a bridge in Fallujah.

“All these over-emotional pundits and armchair quarterbacks need to chill. Does anyone remember the two Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division who were beheaded and gutted in Iraq?

“The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General Officer level letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally apologize to God, Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.

“As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/allen-west-marines-incident-shut-your-mouth-war-hell_616699.html

79 posted on 01/13/2012 11:34:58 AM PST by caww
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To: AmericanInTokyo

see post 79...Col. Allen West’s assessment of the media hype about the soldiers urinating on the thugs.


80 posted on 01/13/2012 11:37:20 AM PST by caww
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To: butterdezillion

Rush discussing this seemed to agree with some of the other posters on the thread who said that we are close to getting a deal with the Taliban to leave and for that reason they are saying this is “no big deal.” But you should go to the link and watch for yourself.


81 posted on 01/13/2012 12:00:00 PM PST by LS
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To: caww
"All these over-emotional pundits and armchair quarterbacks need to chill. Does anyone remember the two Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division who were beheaded and gutted in Iraq?"

Dead Taalieban, PISS be upon them!

82 posted on 01/13/2012 12:15:16 PM PST by FW190 (“ISLAM SPREAD! MMMMMUM! Good with a sprinkling of 308 cal on claymore cracker!”)
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To: LS

I tried to watch it but my computer wouldn’t do it. Showed about 4 seconds and that was it.


83 posted on 01/13/2012 12:55:38 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
Could be the Israel and Iran situation.

Do not watch the MSM, so have missed all the hyper ventilating on this story, but from my perspective, this seems like a psy-ops operation to prepare the American sheeple for something coming down the pike. Something very big. You can kinda understand the outrage over the prison abuse scandal from Iraq because they were living people being abused. And hey, that evil GWB was President then /sarc. But these guys were dead, Jim.


84 posted on 01/13/2012 4:40:44 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: LS

I think you got it right.

Neither the mediots, nor the “president” are to be trusted in any way.


85 posted on 01/13/2012 4:48:20 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: FW190

Yep....anyone who hasn’t been on the battlefield of war knows nothing of what they speak when condeming any of our soldiers. ...they know nothing of war...nor the depravity of those our guys are fighting against.

I have no problem whatsoever that this happened and probably released alot more than just urine across the face of a dead man...a small thing compared to what our guys see them do to their friends and comrads in arms.


86 posted on 01/13/2012 11:33:56 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

Can’t say I disagree with anything he said!!


87 posted on 01/14/2012 4:22:03 AM PST by ontap
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To: LS

Didn’t Gen Mac and a thousand others also piss in the Yalu? Before the Chinese hordes had our fathers or uncles running through th frozen Choisen for cover.


88 posted on 01/15/2012 9:26:34 AM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: WKUHilltopper

My take on this is that this short little video of the Marines peeing on those scum dead sh1tbags was the most inspirational morale building thing I have seen since this miserable occupation started.


89 posted on 01/15/2012 9:34:04 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: LS
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/video/2012-01/13/c_131358275.htm

Partial video then Hitlery speaks.

90 posted on 01/15/2012 9:35:25 AM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: Karliner
Go to 8:13 of German Film, dragging of Helo Pilot, never forget.

Fallujah Blackwater bridge episode

91 posted on 01/15/2012 9:49:40 AM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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