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VANITY: HERMAN CAIN: ENDORSE **MITT ROMNEY** AT YOUR OWN POLITICAL RISK (From Former Supporter)
self | 17 January 2012 | AmericaninTokyo

Posted on 01/15/2012 7:24:17 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo

(VANITY)

Word has it that Mr. Herman Cain, a strong conservative presidential candidate incessantly attacked by the national media, the DNC and the RINO Establishment slime machine, is in a position now to endorse in pivotal South Carolina prior to its presidential primary.

The problem is, some indications are coming out that such an endorsement, while "unconventional" may be going to Mitt Romney, the worst possible choice for the Republicans in 2012 and certainly no conservative, easily beatable by Barack Obama in November. Sucn an endorsement would be highly inadvisable. Many of us, former 2012 Cain supporters, volunteers and donors say this in unison and with passion.


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To: Joann37

In terms of PAC being forumlated, any other race he could run in at a lower level, endorsement-providing organization, talk show circuit, donations, 501 (c) 3, any and all of the above. This is all politics, not necessarily running for politics oneself anymore. The conservative grassroots spigot for donations would rightly be shut off if there were somehow a Herman Cain - Romney endorsement at this time. Again, with all due respect for him, he really should be aware of the downside to do such a thing at this time.


81 posted on 01/15/2012 9:31:30 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Obama Re-elected? Oh well. It's been fun. Take care. See you in the CAMPS....)
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To: llandres

I like Herman Cain alright—I supported his 999 plan when he was running, and I still think it’s a good idea for tax reform.

I’m just very cynical about this entire race, and the entire political process itself, so the most pessimistic forebodings don’t surprise me in the least.

It’s as if large tracts of the Republican population are under some kind of mass psychosis, like some bad horror flick where everyone is getting bitten by an overrun of MittZombies. So if I see that Cain had turned into one of them… well.


82 posted on 01/15/2012 9:35:22 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: mylife

Look, I really LIKE Perry but it’s not happening for him. It very well could in a different year. People just aren’t forgetting his gaffes (played ad nauseum by the media) and maybe he also rubs the endless Bush haters the wrong way. Regardless, Newt can verbally whip BHO effortlessly and would inherit most of Perry’s votes just as he did Herman’s. And Santorum’s not accomplishing anything positive by staying in, either.

Romney is ahead because the “non-Romney” votes are too divided.


83 posted on 01/15/2012 9:37:49 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: magritte
Most of the Perry supporters I know have NO interest in Newt and even less in Santorum. They will most likely sit out.

I hope that's not true, because if it is it will just reinforce what many thought, based on what has been posted on FR, that the the worst attribute of Perry is his supporters.

84 posted on 01/15/2012 9:42:39 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Dysart

Sorry to blow your cork but J.C. Watts is a business as usual politician and as for Mr. Cain, I’m not sure about him although he appears to be an outsider.

If he were to endorse Romney, I would have to say that all of Cain’s talk during the campaign was meaningless and phony.


85 posted on 01/15/2012 9:46:26 PM PST by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I hear your argument, AIT.

However, here is mine.

I want to know what a candidate really thinks. For me to do that means that I have to let the candidate engage in his own decision.

That, to me is more valuable than preventing a Romney nomination. If I know that Cain is a Romney supporter and backs him in this crucial race, then that tells me quite a bit about Mr. Cain, doesn’t it?

If Mr. Cain is wobbly, I want to know that now. I would prefer that over writing to him and convincing him that it’s not in his best interests to endorse Romney.

I hope you see where I am going with this. If he wants to endorse Romney - then we should let him go and do it. THEN we make it clear to him, after the endorsement, that he will be taking that walk alone.


86 posted on 01/15/2012 9:48:24 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: magritte

I have heard MANY say their top choices are Newt/Perry or Perry/Newt. And anyone who’d “sit it out” doesn’t realize how life or death for the country this election is. We won’t survive a fully unleashed second term of b. hussein obama. There’ll be no “lessons taught” for “next time”.


87 posted on 01/15/2012 9:54:42 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: Utmost Certainty

I know how you feel.


88 posted on 01/15/2012 10:00:29 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: BenKenobi
I think it is merely a tactical point of difference here. Obviously we are trying to get to the same place.

That is, denying Romney the nomination of the party, just as we now know how disastrous it was to get McCain nominated four years ago and the stuffing beat out of us as a result, because there was not a clear enough distinction between him and Obama, and I think at the end, finally, like Dole (1996) and Bush Sr. (1992), he just did not want to win, I mean really truly want to win. His only true saving grace was Sarah Palin on the ticket.

89 posted on 01/15/2012 10:11:47 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Obama Re-elected? Oh well. It's been fun. Take care. See you in the CAMPS....)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Speaking of which, more effective than a Cain endorsement of Newt, would be a Cain/Palin endorsement of Newt.


90 posted on 01/15/2012 10:19:32 PM PST by C210N (Dems: "We must tax you so that we can buy your votes")
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To: political1
Thank you. Well done.

In a word: "innoculation"

91 posted on 01/15/2012 10:24:04 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Obama Re-elected? Oh well. It's been fun. Take care. See you in the CAMPS....)
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To: magritte

“They will most likely sit out.”

I would never sit out the election, but if the nominee is Romney or Gingrich I will likely go third party. There is no point in sticking with the GOP when they insist on sending a loser to slaughter. It is time for someone new to enter this race, and they need to do it soon. Palin! Ryan!


92 posted on 01/15/2012 10:25:59 PM PST by Jay Redhawk
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To: celtic gal
Hannity was fishing for a clue and when he suggested an idea Cain said to him he was getting warm..so wonder what this is all about?

FWIW, this is my best guess; Cain won't endorse a candidate, he'll endorse a concept or idea.

93 posted on 01/15/2012 10:29:36 PM PST by freespirited
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To: AmericanInTokyo

You want to save Cain some face. I understand that. Me, I want to know where he stands. I’d rather he endorsed Romney so that we knew rather then convince him to act otherwise.


94 posted on 01/15/2012 10:33:15 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rick Santorum - "The Force is strong with this one")
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To: Dysart

I believe I could buy and support that combination.


95 posted on 01/15/2012 11:03:42 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: BenKenobi

Cain may very well endorse Mitt Romney soon. The reason being that he has to endorse when it might do some good, such as before a major southern primary in SC. Otherwise, an endorsement of Romney later in the day, when the deal for Romney is done, won’t have any weight to it, nor any perks from it. If Cain wants some consideration for a post within a Romney Admin, he’s going to have to act fast to have any credibility with the Romney camp as to his usefulness to it. So, whether it be now or just before FL, I believe those are the only two chances that Cain has to be of any help to Romney and company.

Then again, considering what Cain was accused of, it’s possible none of the conservative candidates really want Cain’s endorsement, although they would probably accept it, just not while standing next to Cain, but only from afar.


96 posted on 01/16/2012 1:16:18 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: BenKenobi

Interesting.


97 posted on 01/16/2012 1:17:28 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Obama Re-elected? Oh well. It's been fun. Take care. See you in the CAMPS....)
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To: mylife
Huntsman endorses Romney, Cain endorses Romney, Bachmann endorses Romney

Relax, every candidate will endorse Romney, when he has the nomination locked up, since at that point, only other choice is Obama.

But I strongly doubt that either Can or Bachmann will endorse anyone, while some more conservative candidates still have some chance.

Bachman and Cain both gave an indirect endorsement to remaining candidates who are more conservative than Romney when they withdrew... Perry should have done the same after Iowa, but has not been able to add 2 and 2 together throughout these primaries...

98 posted on 01/16/2012 1:17:43 AM PST by joe212
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To: FryingPan101
So what’s it to you if we get to hear a conservative voice from a successful sitting governor. What’s the problem with hearing the thoughts and ideas from the head of the Republican Governors Association? What is wrong with a candidate staying in as long as he can to present his conservative views? Who says we have to do things the Karl Rove way?

Perry is just not ready. Unlike other candidates (Bachmann, Santorum, Huntsman), Perry did not grow, gain experience, to be more prepared next time around. Perry actually shrunk...

I was actually rooting for him at one point. When he said Social Security was a Ponzi scheme. But he folded on than, and more...

99 posted on 01/16/2012 1:23:46 AM PST by joe212
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Cain wants to head a PAC to press tax reform. Which candidate would be most conducive to that goal? The only ones I could think of would be Perry and maybe Paul.


100 posted on 01/16/2012 2:08:10 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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