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UNBELIEVABLE?! Newt Loves FDR, Models Himself After Woodrow Wilson and Admires SEIUís Andy Stern
Glennbeck.com ^ | January 21, 2012 | Glen Beck

Posted on 01/21/2012 11:52:56 AM PST by Steelfish

UNBELIEVABLE?! Newt Loves FDR, Models Himself After Woodrow Wilson and Admires SEIU’s Andy Stern Tuesday, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:52 PM EST

t’s not as if Newt couldn’t have known his past comments were going to eventually be called into question. He’s capably navigated his way through his big government tendencies so far and miraculously still has solid support in the Tea Party. Will the latest damaging clip have any impact? Gingrich is caught praising his favorite president of the 20th century: FDR. Yup, he picked the mother of all progressives ahead of Ronald Reagan.

Watch the video montage below:

Cue sound of heads exploding across the country…NOW!

Seriously?! This is unbelievable.

“This goes back to what Newt Gingrich said on this program. You got to get things done. That’s akin to saying we all love the Constitution but there are things we got to do,” Glenn warned.

“FDR did get things done, and then they were ruled unconstitutional,” Stu joked.

But that’s not the worst thing – on the clip at the top of the page Glenn reads a story where Gingrich praised SEIU’s Andy Stern in one of his books.

In his book “Real Chance: From the World That Fails to the World That Works,” Gingrich praises the SEIU head, who remains a close adviser of the President Obama. Pitching the need for conservatives to respect organized labor, while simultaneously pushing back against some of Labor’s more cherished legislative goals, he wrote the following:

” Conservatives cannot cheer unions overseas and then be blindly anti-union here at home. There are legitimate historic reasons for workers to organize together, and there is a strong need for a healthy, competitive, union, movement that helps improve the lives of its members and the competitiveness of our country.

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KEYWORDS: beck; beck4romney; glennbeck; rinobeck
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Is Glen Beck being hysterical here or is this a case of Newt flip-flopping? More importantly, is Beck over the top? And if not Newt, who does he think will best Obama in the general?
1 posted on 01/21/2012 11:53:04 AM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Glen, I know you want a Mormon in office...but it ain’t happenin’.


2 posted on 01/21/2012 11:54:27 AM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Steelfish

I tuned out Beck long before he left Fox.


3 posted on 01/21/2012 11:54:41 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Gingrich/West 2012)
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To: Steelfish

I tuned out Beck long before he left Fox.


4 posted on 01/21/2012 11:54:41 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Gingrich/West 2012)
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To: Steelfish

Beck rhymes with Dreck.


5 posted on 01/21/2012 11:55:06 AM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Steelfish

I don’t trust Beck any longer.

Besides, Newt’s political history is long and known, and anyone can research his opinions.


6 posted on 01/21/2012 11:56:34 AM PST by AlmaKing
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To: Steelfish
Lol, does he even know what a "Realpolitik Wilsonian" is? It's a FOREIGN POLICY approach that has NOTHING to do with a Progressive domestic agenda.

Realpolitik Wilsonian:

Realpolitik (see also Political realism; from German: real "realistic", "practical" or "actual"; and Politik "politics", German pronunciation: [ʁeˈaːlpoliˌtiːk]) refers to politics or diplomacy based primarily on power and on practical and material factors and considerations, rather than ideological notions or moralistic or ethical premises. In this respect, it shares aspects of its philosophical approach with those of realism and pragmatism.

Wilsonianism or Wilsonian are words used to describe a certain type of ideological perspectives on foreign policy. The term comes from the ideology of United States President Woodrow Wilson and his famous Fourteen Points that he believed would help create world peace if implemented.

Common principles that are often associated with "Wilsonianism" include:

See Newt talking about it in the obvious context of foreign policy.

Glenn Beck is an utter moron for going into a meltdown over thinking Newt was advocating Progressivism because of saying this.
7 posted on 01/21/2012 11:57:22 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: struggle
Glen, I know you want a Mormon in office...but it ain’t happenin’.

Glenn has said many times he supports Rick Santorum. Before she left the race, he supported Michele Bachmann. He's consistently supported those two candidates from day one.

8 posted on 01/21/2012 11:58:16 AM PST by AnglePark
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To: struggle

BINGO!


9 posted on 01/21/2012 11:58:16 AM PST by A. Morgan (Ayn Rand: "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: Steelfish

ZOT this post. Beck has gone viral against Newt. he trashes him all day every day on his radio show. Beck has become unhinged.

Remove this post please.


10 posted on 01/21/2012 11:58:20 AM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Steelfish

Beck is a dick.


11 posted on 01/21/2012 11:59:29 AM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: Steelfish

MORMON PANIC ALERT! SOUND THE BELLS! The Hemorrhoid is stirring up the sect.


12 posted on 01/21/2012 11:59:52 AM PST by AdamBomb
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To: Steelfish
Glenn Beck's credibility is equal to Chris Matthew's.
13 posted on 01/21/2012 12:01:23 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Steelfish
Just more FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) from the Drama Queen crybaby, Glenn Beck:


14 posted on 01/21/2012 12:01:34 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Belteshazzar

Beck is crossing a line with this. It smacks of progressive media sabotage to influence/direct SC primary. If it is despicable when Dims do it, it is doubly so when a supposed standard bearer for the truth does it.

& yes the whole Mormon thing is driving him IMO. Romney is no better than Newt & arguably a hell of a lot worse onthe issues Beck champions. So he will magnify in one what he ignores or spins for the other.


15 posted on 01/21/2012 12:01:55 PM PST by 1malumprohibitum
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To: Qwackertoo

No kidding, Beck constant “sky is falling” got too old even with a grain of fact now and then. the Now and Then just got further apart.

Now he’s just desparate for some one to pay him to watch GBTV. NOT.


16 posted on 01/21/2012 12:02:13 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: Steelfish

I think Glenn has jumped the shark. He is now seeing “progressives” behind every door.

Progressives don’t balance the budget like Newt did. Progressives don’t reform welfare for the better like Newt did. Progressives don’t work with one of the greatest Conservatives in Ronald Reagan. The list could go on and on but you get the idea. Yes, one can cherry pick on Newts statements over the years but what he has ACTUALLY DONE is what counts. GO NEWT GO! Glenn Beck be damned for being a narrow minded fool.


17 posted on 01/21/2012 12:02:21 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: faucetman; Steelfish

Agreed. IBTZ. Take it elsewhere.


18 posted on 01/21/2012 12:02:40 PM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Steelfish

Notice that Beck - while he doesn’t directly endorse Romney - goes berserk whenever the inevitability of Milt is in question.


19 posted on 01/21/2012 12:02:50 PM PST by rhinohunter (Not voting for RINO Romney...no way...no how)
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To: faucetman

No need for zotting. Just show that Glenn Beck has gone nuts with evidence. Let’s use our brains not our emotions as if we act like the proverbial three monkeys.


20 posted on 01/21/2012 12:03:12 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

I’ve been listening to Beck. Yesterday, he about fell out of his wide swivel chair after seeing the latest polls showing Gingrich taking the lead in South Carolina. He has been having a conniption lately(seems all the time now) even stating that he has ‘failed his listeners’ to his radio show. I suppose that means he has failed to persuade them on who to vote for in the Republican Primaries.


21 posted on 01/21/2012 12:03:21 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Steelfish

Beck is an idiot and your purpose in posting this thread may be questioned.


22 posted on 01/21/2012 12:04:53 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: AnglePark

I remembber him being so pro Perry.


23 posted on 01/21/2012 12:05:43 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: Qwackertoo

Yep.


24 posted on 01/21/2012 12:05:51 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: Steelfish
Newt Loves FDR, Models Himself After Woodrow Wilson and Admires SEIU’s Andy Stern...

And Mitt Romney is less divided in his mentors, only one....0bama!

Rick Santorum is the best candidate, Mittens is the worst, and Newt is the only electable decent one still in the running.

Newt gets my vote!

25 posted on 01/21/2012 12:06:12 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Steelfish

Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3yn3SelVCs


26 posted on 01/21/2012 12:06:26 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Steelfish

You’re acting like a concern troll. Why do we need to have this stuff recycled on FR? Read what JimRob posted earlier. This garbage needs to be posted elsewhere.


27 posted on 01/21/2012 12:07:01 PM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Parley Baer

Yeah...Newt’s my man I don’t want to hear about his flaws. Beck’s crazy to get Newt’s old quotes. He probably had a actor mimic his voice. I don’t trust Beck. I certainly don’t believe Newt was kiting checks like the rest of the crooks on the Congressional bank.


28 posted on 01/21/2012 12:07:30 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: AlmaKing; Steelfish

It is highly unlikely Newt has a secret life somewhere.


29 posted on 01/21/2012 12:07:57 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Steelfish

There is a really good chance that Glenn Beck is going to be persona non grata at FR reall soon.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2835719/posts


30 posted on 01/21/2012 12:08:47 PM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: faucetman; Steelfish
Remove this post please.

That won't happen because Steelfish is backing Santorum and we know how Santorum likes to throw garbage at Newt; NOT against mitt but Newt. I question his loyalty to our country. And now an anti-Newt thread from glenn beck.

Nothing conservative about all of that.
31 posted on 01/21/2012 12:09:15 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Steelfish

Glenn Beck is a king sized butt hole who’s on the stump for a fellow Mormon.


32 posted on 01/21/2012 12:09:46 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: Steelfish

Well, I didn’t post this, but I read it at other places than on Beck’s site. You can hear it on youtube, as well, if I am correct. And, FYI, Beck is not supporting Romney, and has not been the whole cycle.

Too many are overlooking some real shortcomings of Newt, and I’m not even talking about the character issues prevalent int he media right now. He paints his record with a broad brush that sounds quite wonderful, but he practically had to be dragged screaming and kicking to the measures that were eventually successful, because, by the time he got enough seats to actually win them, he was so into something else and had already forgotten the Contract with America largely. I do remember those days. While I like to watch him debate, it is getting old now to see him say one thing in a debate and quite something else to other venues (groups). He’s not been called out because people love to see him in the debates and are hoping he takes on Obama. Well, if Obama refuses to debate him and runs attack ads all the time, it will hurt Newt. Talking redemption then will make people beg the question: If you can be redeemed, then cannot Bill Clinton, and others?

I’m personally hoping we have a brokered convention, as I don’t see any of these guys being quite what we need to take on Obama.


33 posted on 01/21/2012 12:09:45 PM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: X-spurt

He did support Perry, briefly, in addition to Santorum and Bachmann. That didn’t last long, though, and he went back to Santorum and Bachmann.

He’s never supported Mitt Romney.


34 posted on 01/21/2012 12:09:49 PM PST by AnglePark
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To: Steelfish
No need for zotting. Just show that Glenn Beck has gone nuts with evidence.

You won't pay attention to evidence. You're just playing concern troll. I just debunked the "Newt loves Progressive Woodrow Wilson" myth. What do you have to say about that?
35 posted on 01/21/2012 12:10:12 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: All

this hit piece by that freaking crazed lunatic Beck was put on his website on December 13 ....why is it being posted here today?


36 posted on 01/21/2012 12:11:07 PM PST by thestob (Vote or P. Diddy will kill you)
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To: All

Posting “controversial articles” on FR doesn’t always mean that the poster is trolling nor is he actively (24/7) attacking our favorite candidate(s) in this heated primary season. His posting history would show what’s what. That said, I don’t know the posting history here.


37 posted on 01/21/2012 12:12:21 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Utmost Certainty

I think you did a damn good job and explains why there is no need for zotting when you present the evidence.


38 posted on 01/21/2012 12:12:43 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Glenn Beck’s credibility is equal to Chris Matthew’s

...ahhhh, that’s got to be the biggest bonehead comment I’ve seen in a long time. You don’t have to like or agree with Glenn, but his research is excellant and mostly uses the exact words of leftists and progressives. So if you have a problem with the issue take it up with the leftists, not Glenn. He does NOT compare to the idiot Mathews...

ymmv


39 posted on 01/21/2012 12:12:53 PM PST by ElectionInspector (Molon Labe...)
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To: Steelfish

He’s just telling the truth.

Conservatives are selling their souls.


40 posted on 01/21/2012 12:15:03 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Steelfish

We don’t need evidence. So don’t act like this is what this thread is about. Can we check your posts and see how ‘differently’ you spoke about Newt than glenn beck?

Pull the thread.


41 posted on 01/21/2012 12:15:24 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Steelfish

We are in an advanced ideological battle. Trust no one. Decide for yourself.


42 posted on 01/21/2012 12:16:28 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Utmost Certainty

Thanks for injecting some facts into this hysterical attack on Newt.


43 posted on 01/21/2012 12:17:22 PM PST by newzjunkey (Vote wisely, South Carolinians. Derail Romney's inevitability.)
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To: Steelfish
is Beck over the top?

The question answers itself.

44 posted on 01/21/2012 12:17:42 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Steelfish

Cool. Any other claims you’d like me to dismantle?


45 posted on 01/21/2012 12:17:44 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: presently no screen name

What we don’t need is reflexive GROUPTHINK. I like Newt’s policies very much, I am unsure whether he is more or less electable than Santorum. If Newt wins, well we have to go with the army we have. Crushing Obama is the #1 priority.


46 posted on 01/21/2012 12:19:45 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Parley Baer
Progressives don’t balance the budget like Newt did.

The Bureau of the Public Debt says the budget hasn't been balanced since 1957.

47 posted on 01/21/2012 12:20:06 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Steelfish

Glenn Beck wants a Mormon in office. He’ll do or say anything to accomplish it.


48 posted on 01/21/2012 12:20:06 PM PST by sissyjane (I'm For NEWT!)
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To: Utmost Certainty

*like*...you do nice work :D


49 posted on 01/21/2012 12:20:42 PM PST by hope
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To: Shery

Who do you think can debate obama successfully.

And then tell us what barry has going for him that Newt can’t defeat him. What’s that special thing barry has that is so unbeatable.


50 posted on 01/21/2012 12:21:10 PM PST by presently no screen name
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