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Posted on 01/29/2012 7:56:10 PM PST by Altariel
No Pet For You Want to adopt a dog or cat? Prepare for an inquisition at the animal rescue.
eople who rescue animals can be reluctant to believe anyone deserves the furry creatures. Some rescue groups think potential owners shouldnt have full-time jobs. Others reject families with children. Some rescuers think apartment dwelling is OK for humans but not for dogs, or object to a cats litter box being placed in a basement. Some say no to people who would let a dog run around the fenced backyard unsupervised, or allow a cat outside, ever.
It used to be that people who wanted to get an abandoned or abused animal went to the local pound, saw one they liked, paid a small fee, and drove home with a new pet. Since the 1990s, however, the movement to reduce animal euthanasia and the arrival of the Internet have given rise to a new breed of rescuer. These are private groups, or even individuals, who create networks of volunteers to care for needy animals.
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Humane society turned me down so I went to animal control and got my beautiful German shephard beau.
Humane society turned me down so I went to animal control and got my beautiful German shephard beau.
Oh I agree, I was very much put off the one time I agreed to it. (for my wife’s sake, we had just put down a stray that we had adopted, it had a BB in it’s head, she lasted 1 year with us before succumbing to cancer.)
I stick with local volunteer animal rescue groups now. Get to know them and they will beg you to adopt, they will know just which cat or dog might just love you and they don’t charge though they do insist on sterilization and offer a certificate for a discount for that.
Yet I’m a sucker for an animal in need and may again prostrate myself before the zealots. their heart is in the right place after all.
I feel the same way about Housing Assoc also. Somewhere along the line, we have given up our freedom to almost everybody for a variety of reasons. I like my pets but I am not going to go for the 3rd degree to get one.
I also do not tolerate anyone to abuse my animals either.
Some keep referring to “shelters”. These are not shelters but rescues. People who volunteer to “rescue” animals or foster them for (what should be) a short time.
They are definitely not cheap to rent an animal from (they can take it from you if you violate their contract) usually costing several hundred dollars in adoption fees. And this is after you pass their bend over and cough exam to determine if your are suitable for the animal.
The article went on to say that 25% of all pet hoarders turn out to be rescues. That does not surprise me in the least.
Unless one can get a referral to a rescue org that is reasonable in their screening process, the best bet is the local pound or a breeder.
Thanks, I am with you! Some here don’t understand that when agreeing to the “home inspection” we are authorizing the government to enter and inspect our homes.
Bless you for finding a way to help and love these poor creatures despite the folly of some of these shelters.
We do what we can.
Whoa, wait a minute. When did the government come into this discussion?
WOW! 1rudeboy really gets around! I “had words” with him earlier tonight...
You will see in an earlier post on this thread by me that I adopted from a government shelter. Wayne (Mount View) NJ.
I also adopted from a private volunteer rescue group. They knew me, asked a few questions to be sure I knew what I faced, required NO paper work and assisted me in treating the cat for fleas and having her fixed. They were awesome.(Enya was 18 months old when we got her, she lived to be 20 years old).
Their focus was on making sure the person doing the adopting was capable, not on getting me to sign over access to my home at their whim.
I understand the motives involved and am stating my preference for the most effective way.
I know people who answered all the questions of the shelter correctly, but lied. I know them because I raised the cat they adopted while they were lying to the shelter. (Toby, Maine Coon Mix, Most awesome cat ever, Lived to 13, Vet dropped him and broke his back, died 6 weeks later).
Good people can disagree, I know it’s not easy, seen too many liars adopt and abandon. I just think focusing on character over any other detail is the best predictor of a good home.
Your results may vary but thank you for taking the time to give a care to some of God’s creatures who have given us so much joy and comfort.
I will also inform you that it is bad form to make things personal without letting the other party know. Just a heads up, for a newb.
Daarlin’, you are only a “year older” than I am...
I get it. You balance your desire to adopt an animal with your capability to adobt the animal. It’s not rocket science. I can only imagine that this thread will encourage people to adopt fewer animals.
Then why don’t you understand protocol, newb, being the veteran that you are?
I have always given my dogs rabies shots and nothing else...I would like this dog but will only give rabies vaccinations....they must have liked my answers cause I got the dog...One of their rules was also to visit the home etc...My dogs foster mother brought the dog to a large parking lot near my home and I took my own dog with me...I had told them I had to see if the dogs were compatible before I would even consider adopting one...She must have liked me and my dog, cause I got the rescue right there. I invited her to my home, unfenced on 4 1/2 acres but always let me dogs out on a long chain to do their business..
I had her for 20 months before she had to be put down due to spontaneous fracture of front leg due to large bone cancer...The leg broke while she was running to the door to be let out...the scream was horrible and she was too old to survive chemo and then would have to have the front leg amputated..It was a hard decision cause I figured I'd be bringing her home after the break was set...lovely dog, but she and my dog just ignored each other unless we went for a walk together.... We did email back and forth before she brought the dog. I also emailed her to keep her up on Teesha's life about once a week...
We tried to adopt a Lab about a year ago. We went to a meet ‘n greet event with about 3 dozen Labs. Without exception, the dogs *all* have severe behavior problems. After we looked at the paperwork, factored in the cost, decided to buy a pup from a reputable breeder, for a lot less than the adoption service.
I swear the people in the foster/adoption group all seemed to be animal *hoarders*...they didn’t want to adopt them out....just hold on to them and *feel good* about saving a dog.
except private rescues are not government. LDDR that I got my sweety from go into kill shelters and adopt dogs going in to be killed the following day..LDDR Stands for Last Day Dog Rescue. Although I wouldn’t or would not comply with them 100 percent, I still got my girl...She was quite old and I spent more money on her for vet service than I ever did my own dog and was glad to do it..I did say I would give her heart worm medication that and Rabies was all I would concent too...(forgot about the heart worm meds in my other post...
Maybe the thread will also help the poor shlubs who volunteer at shelters to find a better way to examine potential clients than the current method which seems to turn off some good folks (though also turning away the undesirables).
It aint easy rudeboy, I know it. You see them all the time, you witness the returns, read about the abusers. You feed them and pet them and comfort them.
I hope I haven’t discouraged anyone from adopting no matter the paperwork involved. I have done it all ways, endured the paperwork etc..
Rather I hope to refine the process so as not to turn away good folks.
I will say again: If a animal needs a home and you can help: Don’t let the bureaucracy stop you! Don’t fear the paper work! They are only looking out for the animal!
My father had a young great dane that got him evicted from his (small) apartment in Yonkers, NY. He was a musician, and when he'd go to work (usually for about 5 - 6 hours at a time) he'd chain "Bucky" to a steel pipe that held up a cabinet in the kitchen. One night he came home about 4 hours late, and Bucky was standing at the apartment door, the cabinet trailing behind him, waiting for him to come home! And yes, Bucky shredded his couch and knocked down all of his bookshelves.
Bless you! Sounds like you’re one of those trying to make things easier and better for all those concerned while still saving animals from death and giving them loving homes
My GS came right to my door- starving, scraggly & fleas; chip still registered to the breeder, who tried to contact owners but they’d moved & changed numbers, so i got to keep the dog. I thank God for this dog every day!
Let’s get together and drink. Heavily. I have nothing left to say.
you make a lotta noise about rules and regulations but apparently don’t follow the rules here.
there’s no need for the manner and tone of your replies.
Well met sir!
And wait for someone like catroina54 to parachute in to choose sides.
God bless you, you didn’t just give up because one place said no.
Yes, you are right. Also if they already know you it can make a difference. But they did their due diligence checking you out and even though you may not have given all the standard answers they wanted, observing you and your home they knew things would be okay.
I am all for bending rules if they can be satisfied with things.
I’ve had a little contact with a couple of the cat-Nazi type of rescuers. Instead of a situation where they ought to be happy to find a “good enough” pet guardian, instead they’re acting like only the most perfect person in the world is allowed access to THEIR precious rescue kitties.
And gawd help you if you mention on the application that you’re willing to give up a misbehaving cat who doesn’t get along with others in order to be able to adopt Miss Precious from them, and don’t mention that you’ve ever done anything else on their list of no-no’s.
I mean, of course every cat deserves a good home, if a good-enough one can be found. Don’t these morons realize that sometimes the perfect is the enemy of the good (or the good-enough).
Oh, yeah, and sometimes $100 or $200 feels like a lot of a fee to adopt a mixed-breed critter.
It`s not an inquisition, but an interview to gauge whether the adopting individual and the animal are the right fit. We`ve adopted both our dogs here in VA from the SPCA, and were interviewed rather extensively. The objective is placing the animal in the best circumstances possible.
I have a friend whose dog died shortly before his wife died. Being lonesome, he went to a shelter and was told that at his age he could only adopt a dog ten years or older. My friend is living on a modest income and went he brougt a dog home he had to take her to a vet just about every third day. The dog died within about two months. So this elderly man was forced to endure a third loss within about four months while incurring huge vet fees and long driving times. This WW II vet was put through all of this even though his daugter had agreed that if anything happened to her father she would adopt the dog.
We’ve adopted from an agency whose contract goes so far as to have you give permission for them to “drop in” unannounced and check on the pet in the future. I don’t have a problem with that. So many people “adopt” pets for nefarious reasons — training attack or fighting dogs, for one.
We rescued three feral kittens in August, and tried to find good homes for them. Nobody who responded to our ads seemed to be good potential owners for various reasons. So now we have seven cats instead of our original four.
I tried to find a funny picture of a hobo kitty but this one grabbed my heartstrings...so sad
I just got done adopting my 3rd dog. The first dog I got from Bideawee in Wantagh NY. He was an older rescue Sheltie Terrier mutt that lived with my family 13 happy years. The process was quick and painless. They did call my references to make sure I wasnt lying. The next dog I got from North Shore Animal league. This was a bit more involved but we got a Black Lab mutt. A bit more intrusive but we made it fine. We had him for 11 years.
After he was gone we decided to get another dog. Since I moved off Long Island Bideawee and North Shore were a trip so we decided to go local. We used Petfinder and heard of a Massachusetts group holding an adoption event at a local Tractor Supply. They had 15 puppies for adoption at $600 apiece. We thought we arrived early only to find we were number 33 on the list to see the dogs. We left empty handed and the rescue left with $9,000.00 for a days work. We went to our local shelter and it was sad. All the dogs were older and most were Pitt Bulls. We did not want to have a short relationship with an older dog and I did not want a fighting breed. We then went to another rescue and got the third degree for a dog we thought would be good.
We eventually ended up at North Shore again. We adopted a female Jack Russell puppy. The adoption cost us $300.00. They did have a question process and some of the people turned down were pretty mad leaving the place. How could they, who do they think they are, that type of remarks. Looking at the reactions you could see they probably shouldnt have a pet.
If you want to adopt just look around, ask around. Out there is a some dog looking for a good home.
When I visited a local rescue/shelter I wandered into the feline free range room and big older tabby cat wandered over and jumped up in my lap and went to sleep. Well, you know I melted right then and there. I've never had a lap cat. Well, it took me a little over two hours to get out the door with him. He was special needs, returned to the shelter 3 times previous and had quite the checkered past. So after his horror tales I still adopted him. He and I were a perfect match! None of the old behaviors ever became evident and he lived out his senior years in comfort.
I eventually volunteered as a foster home for this rescue and it has been a rewarding experience. Last year there wasn't a month I did not have kittens under 12 weeks in my care. It has truly been fun. Lots of good stories of my own personal experience.
This little shelter adopted out nearly 1,000 animals last year! And they often take in the overflow from other shelters or dog fighting/puppy mill busts in the state. The fosters rehab and adopt out as quickly as they can. But, they are also careful with the animals that have issues.
>Then dont expect a free pet.<
Rescue/shelter animals are anything but free.
It might be instructive for you to define abusive.
>Im just going to throw this out there: if an animal is rescued from an abusive environment, what purpose is served by sending that animal to the next person who walks in the door? Why not just put the animal down?<
It depends on the person. Does the person work? Perhaps s/he wouldn’t be the best home for a pup, but what about an adult dog? A cat? What if s/he shows a relationship with a dog walker? Don’t have a fenced yard? What if s/he walks the dogs on the leash for exercise? Does s/he have a solid history as a pet owner?
Do rescues all do follow ups? I know they don’t because I’ve served on 2 boards - one did, one didn’t because they simply didn’t have the manpower.
Pet rescue people need to guard against the trap of thinking only they are capable of pet ownership. Sadly, many who embrace rescue adoption suffer from control issues.
My opinion, YMMV.
I support and help out our local golden retriever rescue. And I don’t even qualify (on paper) to adopt a golden from them because I don’t have a fenced yard. I have told the president, who is a friend of mine, how silly that really is, since what it means is that my dog always goes outside accompanied by me and is never left alone out there. But they are one of the more reasonable organizations I’ve known.
The problem is that some of these groups are run by people who are fanatics, and some are quite reasonable people who just care about animals. Some of them probably started our reasonable and became fanatics after dealing with bad situations. And some of them think people like me (hobby breeders) are the enemy. Heck, some FReepers think I’m the enemy.
But, something has happened in our society and many people cannot draw a line between pets and people, and this is what you get. It can be almost as difficult to get a pet as it is to adopt a baby, and some places are passing laws that also blur the line.
Granny, what a sad story! I had one die of bone cancer. She went really fast too, just started limping and in 9 days we had to put her to sleep. Very sad, dogs seem to get cancer pretty often.
While an elderly person might not be a good fit for an exuberant puppy, I think a middle aged dog (5 or 6 years old) would have been a good fit. To be honest with you, while I avidly support our golden rescue and usually mention it first when someone calls me looking for a dog (I currently am not breeding because we have a restrictive breeding law here) I will say that sometimes hobby breeders have perfectly wonderful adult dogs they are willing to part with who are trained and make wonderful pets. I have placed adults myself, either because they came back to me because their original homes didn’t work out, or because a potential show dog didn’t work out for me. I DO screen homes, and SOME breeders are just like the groups being discussed in this thread, but certainly not all are. It’s another avenue for someone looking for a nice adult dog. It might have worked out for your friend. And I”m really sorry he had to go through that. I know my dogs are always a comfort to me. (and fwiw, I would have agreed to take the dog back myself if he had needed me to, it’s part of my contract, altho I would have also allowed the daughter to if she wanted to—I don’t think this would be an unusual arrangement).
That is exactly what I did. The North American Dachshund Rescue puts an adopter through weeks of interviews as well as a home visit. I worked via a local shelter. They did ask me to visit “my” pet on site several times so that they could watch our interaction. Of course there was paperwork and promises to be kept plus $300 fee. $300 - dog under five years of age. Fees are less for needy seniors or pets with special needs.
Rescues generally aren’t free. I paid $185 each for my two new dogs. They have been neutered, one had a hernia surgery, and they have had all of their shots and wormings. That would cost about $185 anyway, if not more.
“want a cat? Leave a can of food outside, the local representative of the kitty union will be along shortly...”
So true! This is basically how the missus and I acquired our second kitteh, a tortoiseshell stray we named Patch who’s probably lived in our neighborhood longer than we have. She’s probably the most affectionate cat I’ve ever seen.
Apple, our first cat, came from San Jose Animal Care. It was not a hard decision to take her; as soon as the shelter worker handed her to my wife she gave her a head bonk. We had the good fortune of finding a coupon on their website that would allow us to adopt any cat for $10 (normally a young adult cat such as Apple would be placed for $60), and it’s hard to find better entertainment for that price. :)
All but one of my animals over the years as been rescued. The other was a pure breed Persian who thought the world revolved around her but was otherwise a good cat. Bought her at a pet store.
The rest, all but one where found on the side of the road as kittens in cow country (it was common for city folk to dump unwanted litters) or from craigslist type listings.
The dumped/craigslist cats/dogs where/are great animals. they have respect for us. You can tell some have lived a hard life. One, gets very worried and starts pacing the house howling if my wife so much as packs a box. We suspect he was left in a house for a long.. long.. time after the people moved out. Likely got kicked out and could not take him with.
Anyways.. The last one came from a “shelter” we hoped through their hoops (kids really liked him. I hated the anal probe) brought the dog home once we where “approved”. My son was sitting on the floor watching TV.. Dog walked right up to him from behind and bit him on the arm.
The rescue group who gave us the anal probe apparently never bothered to make sure the dog was good with kids.
They where decent about it, and gladly gave us a refund for the dog and re-placed it with a adult only family.
Is it true that urban animal rescue is dominated by lesbians?
“I would NEVER agree to allow someone to come to my house to inspect it just to get a dog or cat. I am not real eager to allow anyone around my place.”
Nor would I. Sure, I understand the shelters want a good environment for the animals. I would bring along a few pictures to prove the backyard fence is in good shape and that I have also have a kennel, but in-house inspections are over-the-top extreme nonsense.
I’ll tell you another thing also irks me — some of the people that foster Australian Shepherds screen out prospects that won’t involve the dog in agility courses, specialized training, jogging lifestyles, etc. In other words, being a pampered household pet and member of the family simply isn’t good enough for the dogs to live fulfilled lives. Our dogs would disagree! Meanwhile, too many good and young dogs are put down for a lack of enough “perfect” homes.
A friend purchased a cockatiel for her grandson. The bird sellers required three visits with the bird at their store, an in-home visit, a signed contract, and a verbal agreement to use an organic bird feed sold only in their store. They won’t let the family keep the bird in their daughter’s bedroom and set very strict rules about the care of this bird, who, by the way, has a gimpy wing. As my friend said, she can buy a cockatiel on Craigslist for under twenty bucks and none of the hassle.
When we had 2-3 litters of Basenji puppies several years ago, we were very careful about where they were placed, but none of *this* insanity!
It sure sounds like it.
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