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The Republican Party Becomes the Whig Party
Townhall.com ^ | Feb 01, 2012 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 02/01/2012 1:36:41 PM PST by servo1969

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1 posted on 02/01/2012 1:36:45 PM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Screw the GOP. I am done with them.


2 posted on 02/01/2012 1:41:52 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Jim "Firebrand" Robinson endorses Newt...with EPIC call to action!!)
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To: servo1969

Click to Donate to Newt Gingrich

3 posted on 02/01/2012 1:44:52 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God: Newt, Rick and Sarah will be right next to you.)
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To: NoGrayZone

The Gone Old Party.


4 posted on 02/01/2012 1:45:25 PM PST by datura (R.I.P. GOP - Time For Some TEA!)
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To: servo1969
I've been saying this for months now. A Romney nomination likely fractures the GOP -- possibly to the point of no return.

Given the way the party elites have behaved in recent years, I no longer care. Sure an Obama re-election irreparably wrecks the economy and brings about economic collapse, but a Romney Presidency probably does the exact same thing just at a slightly slower pace.

This country isn't serious about reform. Might as well go ahead and have the total collapse now and get it over with. Sure there will be a tremendous amount of pain and suffering, but we will have brought it all upon ourselves as a nation.

If we can hold off the Chinese and other potential scavengers, then perhaps we can start rebuilding from the ashes. Who knows? Maybe then common sense conservatism can at long last prevail.

5 posted on 02/01/2012 1:48:32 PM PST by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: datura
The Republican Party, with its soon to be anointed presidential candidate, Governor Romney, has become the Edsel party. Remember the glorious Edsel? It was car with a two-tone paint job, lots of chrome and an unfortunate distraction in front. It didn't last very long. Still, the distraction is probably our next president.
6 posted on 02/01/2012 1:51:07 PM PST by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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To: NoGrayZone

Buh, bye.


7 posted on 02/01/2012 1:51:07 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: NoGrayZone

Gollies

and them the very ones pushing your 2008 pick, your boy Willie Mitty...

How come youre so upset with them ???

arent we “anti-Romneys” the ones you hate with a passion any more ???

you should be mad with glee...


8 posted on 02/01/2012 1:55:00 PM PST by Tennessee Nana (Romney a Massachusetts moderate which is a liberal by Republican standards)
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To: servo1969

Perhaps.

But the Democrats have clearly become the Communist Party, and that seems to have worked out quite well for them.

Yes, very well indeed.


9 posted on 02/01/2012 1:55:26 PM PST by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: servo1969
What divides the Republican Party is not ideology but access to power. The GOP leadership has no ideology save a perceived self-interest in maintaining their place in the status quo; whether that is as members of the majority or the minority matters seemingly little to them. To this class, political labels are not meaningful statements of value, but rather badges worn to signify group membership.

To be among the Ruling Class is to be a creature of government or else firmly attached to one of its multitude of nourishing teats. Those of us desirous of a more anonymous and privately remunerative life must compete with them not only for political influence, but increasingly, for a right to the fruits of our own labors and to make even minute decisions about the course of our own lives.

In such a parlous state, no nation can long endure. Things eventually do fall apart. And presently, they are.

10 posted on 02/01/2012 1:56:49 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: NoGrayZone
Screw the GOP. I am done with them.

Ditto.

11 posted on 02/01/2012 2:02:43 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: servo1969

In 1852 the Whigs nominated an old war horse who lost to a political newcomer. A new party was in power 8 years later.

In 2008 the Republicans nominated an old war horse who lost to a political newcomer. Will we have a new party in 2016?


12 posted on 02/01/2012 2:03:01 PM PST by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: servo1969
Unlike the conservatives who are Jeffersonians, Jacksonians, Grover Cleveland Democrats, and Dixiecrats, my family has been Republican since Lincoln. I'll hate to see the Grand Old Party of my ancestors go. But barring a miracle, that just may happen.

Everything seems to be falling apart at once.

13 posted on 02/01/2012 2:07:08 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: servo1969
His goal was to ensure Jeffersonian democracy and fight President Andrew Jackson, a Democrat.

Not quite, but I guess it's kind of in the ballpark.

About the present: Parties out of power exaggerate their positions, and parties in power tend to moderate them. So the Republicans of 1994 were different from the Republicans of the Bush years. So the Democrats of the Bush years made all kinds of claims about foreign policy that weren't supported by the actions of the Clinton or Obama administrations. So the next Republican President isn't going to have the level of tea party sentiment to deal with that was present in 2010. So will the party be as split as he claims if we win?

The other factor is that parties can get serious after a loss. If we lose this time, won't we get organized enough to do it right next time?

Slavery, by contrast, was an issue that didn't go away. You could be say that the Whigs didn't get a chance. They lost in 1852 and the Democrats started to set the scene for civil war.

If the Whigs had won that election, would they have coped better with sectional divisions and not let things decay as quickly as they did? I guess in the end, though, the Whigs did fail, whether they had a chance or not.

14 posted on 02/01/2012 2:09:04 PM PST by x
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To: Timber Rattler

And likewise!


15 posted on 02/01/2012 2:09:24 PM PST by GunsareOK
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To: servo1969

There is no Tea Party candidate in the race.


16 posted on 02/01/2012 2:09:57 PM PST by free me (heartless=no humanity)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Yes that abut sums it up/


17 posted on 02/01/2012 2:12:29 PM PST by free me (heartless=no humanity)
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To: servo1969
The Republican Party Becomes the Whig Vichy Republican Party
18 posted on 02/01/2012 2:13:08 PM PST by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: servo1969

I listened to Newt’s speech last night and he almost sounded like he was campaigning as a third party candidate. Several things he said made me immediately jump to the idea of ‘third party.’


19 posted on 02/01/2012 2:15:33 PM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: servo1969

PING!

Very good article. We’ll see how it all plays out probably by Super Tuesday. If Gingrich takes the lead the Republican party might continue on... and if Romney wins, there will be a split.


20 posted on 02/01/2012 2:17:18 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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