Skip to comments.Frank Rich's Mormon Problem - and Mitt's
Posted on 02/07/2012 10:19:02 AM PST by Olympiad Fisherman
According to Michael Walsh, almost 20% of both Republicans and Indepedents along with 30% of Democrats have vowed that they will not vote for a Mormon for president. Yet the Republican establishment naively and foolishly believes this a non-issue. By November, chances are that many Americans will be given a first class education on the history of Mormonism, which will be very difficult to overcome at the ballot box ...
National Review has for the most part helped set this table. Roosting chickens on their way hometo the doofusses with a pen.
I think the poll results are biased by the fact that a particular Mormon is running. I will never vote for Romney. If Palin, DeMint, Cain, Bachmann, Perry, Gingrich, or Santorum were LDS, I would happily vote for them. The problem with Romney is that he is a big government leftist, and that’s not what we need to reverse the destruction caused by the current big government leftist.
If Mitt Romney gets the GOP nomination then I’ll be voting for Roseanne Barr in protest.
The GOP does not have a “right” to my vote and if they nominate Mittens then they have not earned my vote.
Why is it that Dingy Harry Reid never has a “Mormon Problem”?
Same as Orin Hatch and others in Congress, they also HAVE A mormonISM Problem.
Maybe this is the year for FULL disclosure of the mormonISM CULT's beliefs.
Slight mis-statement in the headline - Frank Rich has a MORON problem, because he is one.
Reid isn’t running for President
Because he lives near Utah and is a Democrat.
Romney classically reflects the plastic nature of Mormonism. It is a fake religion, and his shallow politics is part and parcel of his Mormon faith. Perhaps more critical is that if he gets into office, with the oval office being one of the the biggest pressure cooker plates on the planet, he will certainly fall back on his Mormonism to help him survive. His Mormonism will play a strong role in his leadership style, and what he did in Massachussetts will be replayed on a national scale.
Mormonism makes the GOP look silly.
I have a question about Mormonism. I heard that they believe only married Mormons go to heaven. What happens if a Mormon man divorces his Mormon wife. Is she codemned to hell? Is she forced to marry another Mormon man to get into Mormon heaven?
We can also expect a SuperPac out of Napa or LA to run revealing ads on "magic underwear" and "interplanetary colonization".
There will be several interviews with ex-Mormons.
By the time the left is finished with it Mormonism and Moonie will be synonymous.
Right or wrong, it's pretty certain.
I will gladly provide such interviews. I am an ex-mormon.
Nobody here or elsewhere can say we didn't warn them.
They are a deceptive, dangerous and cruel cult that is very near to taking over a SECOND THIRD of our national government.
Obama will be re-elected in 2012, and it will be the mormon's fault.
Q: What do you call a group of people with very low IQs, who drink diet cola and eat fresh fruit while singing Christmas carols?
A: The Moron Tab and Apple Choir.
Look for a prime time run of the Mountain Meadows Massacre movie about Sept - Oct on NBC. 60 Minutes will be doing some in depth pieces on the Mormon church’s view on people of color coming up as well. Just in case anyone forgot.
Thanks for the article!
Mormons do not believe in hell, but in 3 heavens - one for the carnals & another for the Christians & the most blessed one for Mormons.
Mitt’s response to whether he was for gay marriage was no, that it is sacred and reserved for a man and a woman and a woman and a woman and a woman.....
A Mormon would not be my first choice, and Mittens would not be my first choice among Mormons -
But I don’t believe that Mittens will actively try to undermine and usurp the Constitution of the United States in a militant and defiant fashion, as does the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue;
AND I don’t believe that Mittens is promoting ‘the revolution’, as is the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue;
AND I don’t believe that Mittens hates the United States of America, or is ashamed of it, as is the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue;
AND I don’t believe that Mittens hates white people, and every aspect of capitalism, as does the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue;
AND I don’t believe that Mittens admires, abets, and aspires to be a third world despot, as does the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue;
SO: if it comes down to Mittens versus Obama, I’ll hold my nose and vote Mittens.
For the same reason that "Mob Princess" Pelosi and John F Kerry (he served in VietNam, you know?) don't have a "Catholic Problem." Their positions, actions, and votes cast should have gotten them excommunicated!
They take their religion with a "wink and a nod."
I got that far in your list. No, Romney would "actively try to undermine and usurp the Constitution of the United States in a" stealthy, duplicitous, deceitful and smarmy manner. I'd rather have an obvious enemy than a person pretending to be on the same side but is in truth an enemy. And Romney is an enemy.
Here’s a piece I wrote from January 27th on this topic.
Romney Pledges to be “True to his Faith” as President - Just what might that entail?
It will be much more than just some political hacks. There will be a concerted and clandestine collusion between the Administration and the O-media.
As I wrote in the aforementioned piece “it wont just be PACs; it will be The History Channel, Discovery Channel, 60 minutes We might as well nominate Marshall Applewhite and wait for him to return in his space ship hidden within the tail of the Hale-Bopp Comet.”
So you would rather have Obama?
A vote for Romney is a vote for 0bomba. Romney will not win against 0bomba, if the GOP elites cram him down our gullets.
Plus you apparently did not absorb my comment. Romney is a leftist, just more slightly more duplicitous. A turd with shine sprayed on it is still a turd.
So the question remains...
IF it comes down to Obama vs. Romney, what do you do?
As I indicated in my original post, I am no Romney fan. And I am hoping for a different candidate. But the article discusses the effect of Mormonism on the electorate. And my post was an attempt to determine the lesser of two evils in the event of a Romney vs. Obama matchup in the General, (as seems likely, barring Divine intervention).
The idea that some will allow the destroyer another four years to complete his task unless they get their candidate is simply unacceptable.
Romney is no better - not any better - than 0bomba. And if by some horrible twist of fate the GOP insider power broker elites and Mormons voting as a bloc for him force him upon us, the Dems will immediately rub their hands in glee and trot out all the damning info they have on him in particular and Mormonism in general, and Romney will LOSE. Got it? He will lose!!
If he is on the ticket, I will write in Sarah Palin, and vote for conservatives for the House and Senate.
Pinging a few names to a feller pushing Romney, after a few exchanges I looked at his signup date. Clincher.
Yes, I understand - but that’s not the problem here. You might vote for him, but too many will simply sit out this upcoming election for president. I do not believe that Romney can win. He will alienate just enough voters to keep him from winning. Romney was perhaps the dumbest choice for a candidate for president in living memory - especially at such a critical time in our nation’s history.
First, as I stated in my original post, A Mormon would not be my first choice, and Mittens would not be my first choice among Mormons.
My comment was placed on a link which discusses whether Romney's Mormonism would affect his electability in the event that he wins the Rupublican nomination - as seems probable, whether you or I like it or not. So to stay on topic, my discussion concerns Romney, NOT Newt, or Santorum, or Palin or Paul, or any other candidate which I might prefer over Romney.
My point is that given the choice between Obama, who I believe is intentionally trying to destroy our way of life, and Romney who is merely a pathetic RINO, I would still hold my nose and vote Mittens in the belief that the country is more likely to survive four years of Romney than four more years of Obama.
little jeremiah has indicated his disagreement with this position, so I asked his solution. The choices, as I see it, are to vote for someone or not vote. little jeremiah's answer is that he would write in his preferred candidate and hope for victory in the House and Senate - a protest abstention, unless one believes a write-in could win a national election. That's all I was asking. I thought perhaps someone had a ray of wisdom that I missed.
I still think that I would vote for objectionable Romney over detestable Obama. And I will vote - no matter how bad the choices.
As you point out, I joined FR in December. But I voted for Reagan twice, Bush 41 twice, Dole (over Clinton), Bush 43 twice, McCain (held my nose - but glad I did what I could to stop Obama). So I've been following these races for some time, whether I was on FR or not
I see the problem as well. And I dread the thought that Obama might win reelection.
But I will have to choose from the available candidates. Even if I don’t like any of the choices.
I will not vote for Mittens in a primary, but if the GOP sticks us with him, I don’t see much alternative.
If Paul dropped out, Newt could win. If Newt dropped out, Santorum would surge. But none of those things are in my control. Mostly, I’m praying for something to change. But in the end I’ll vote against Obama.
I alerted you ‘cause it sounded to me as though LucianOfSamasota was pushing Romney, and adding the signup date I thought “hmmm”.
If I’m wrong I totally apologize! I can’t stand people supporting Romney, it just makes me sick!!!
Sorry if I ruffled feathers, I don’t mean to be cantankerous.
For whatever its worth, Santorum seems to be doing well tonight. So maybe it won’t come down to the lesser of two undesirables.
At the risk of offending everyone again I’ll tell you what I’d really like to see...
If Ron Paul would drop out, I think a lot of his anti-establishment votes would pour over into Santorum and Newt. That would really help the conservative cause.
Not that I think Paul will quit - he intends to broker influence at the GOP convention, much as Jesse Jackson used to for the Dim’s. But hoping is free.
Romney NOT a viable candidate. I believe he is now 1-17 in races outside of his home turf...plus in "away" caucuses, he is now (w/out double-checking my stats)...something like 5-16.
So take away his home turf, and he is something like 6-33.
Romney's a loser...I thought GOP voters weren't into casting their votes for a loser...for a non-viable candidate...for a candidate who will lose anyway...Isn't that called "Wasted Vote Syndrome"...
So there's actually some GOP voters who will sear their conscience and waste a vote in the process -- only then to have to revisit that conscience when Romney loses, anyway!
Ah. The sheer glory of compromise and capitulation!
Interesting, I hadn't thought of that. Both Senate Majority Leader Reid and leading Presidential candidate, Mitt Romney (members of the two opposite parties), are Temple Mormons aren't they? Reid and Romney are both, members of the roughly 15% of the Mormon elite aren't they.
You just creeped me out much more than I was before.
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