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Basejumper Felix Baumgartner to break sound barrier with leap from the edge of space
Telegraph ^ | 2-7-12

Posted on 02/07/2012 11:05:54 AM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Basejumper Felix Baumgartner will attempt to break the speed of sound by freefalling from the edge of space, nearly 23 miles up, above Roswell.

It is the ultimate in parachute jumps: from the edge of space, Felix Baumgartner will leap from a balloon, plummeting to the ground 120,000 feet below.

Currently preparing in New Mexico, Baumgartner - who has previously made headlines with the lowest base jump ever recorded, off the Christ the Redeemer statue in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil and for crossing the English Channel in freefall - was calmness personified as he explained what the incredible leap will involve.

He said: "We're going up to 120,000 feet in a pressurised capsule hanging underneath a helium balloon and at altitude the balloon will level off.

"I'm going to step off that capsule, fall down for a couple of minutes and hopefully I'm going to break the speed of sound."

To be more precise, after 35 seconds he will expect to break the sound barrier, and finally, at 5,000 feet he will deploy a parachute and – hopefully – land safely on the ground.

During his 10-minute journey to earth the Austrian will travel at more than 690 miles per hour inside a special suit, which must protect him from temperatures as low as -94 degrees F.

He will rely on its oxygen tanks as the air is too thin to breathe – and hope that the sheer force of the fall does not make him blackout.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: felixbaumgartner; kittinger; spacediving; spacejump
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1 posted on 02/07/2012 11:06:00 AM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

bttt


2 posted on 02/07/2012 11:08:39 AM PST by advertising guy (Obama is a world class liar, but Eric Holder does it backwards and in high heels)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
He will rely on its oxygen tanks as the air is too thin to breathe –
and hope that the sheer force of the fall does not make him blackout.

Hope is not a plan. Although that little fact has become obscured since about 2008.

3 posted on 02/07/2012 11:12:22 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I am pro-Jesus, anti-abortion, pro-limited government, anti-GOP.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

So, he is going to go from 0 to 690mph in 35 secounds?!


4 posted on 02/07/2012 11:12:22 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: jaydubya2

When he breaks the sound barrier. Every organ in his body will explode.


5 posted on 02/07/2012 11:15:58 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Almost sounds like something out of the book “Starship Troopers” where combat drops were made from space in personal aeroshells.


6 posted on 02/07/2012 11:18:06 AM PST by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: jaydubya2

Yep. What a loon.


7 posted on 02/07/2012 11:18:15 AM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: massgopguy

It would be very surprising if this idiot were to survive...


8 posted on 02/07/2012 11:18:49 AM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: jaydubya2

The speed of sound is not constant. It is faster in denser air and slower in less dense air. Basically, that 690MPH figure is only at low elevations...much slower than that at very high altitudes.

Havn’t you ever noticed at high elevations, like on a mountain, you see things before you hear the sound they make? Like someone dribbling a basket ball say 35 yards away at elevations over 5000feet. You hear the ball hit the pavement about the same time you see the ball half way between the person’s hand and the pavement.


9 posted on 02/07/2012 11:21:21 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: jaydubya2

Yep ... 32 ft/s/s adds up.


10 posted on 02/07/2012 11:24:34 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

He just jumped to the top of the Darwin Waiting List.


11 posted on 02/07/2012 11:26:45 AM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
Some guy in the Air Force did this, sometime around 1960, and still holds the free fall record.

With all the new technology, I don't know what's taken it so long for somebody to try it again.

12 posted on 02/07/2012 11:28:42 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

-— Hope is not a plan. Although that little fact has become obscured since about 2008-—

Works in politics. In engineering, not so much.

This was done before a half century ago:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sky=mrdr&site=webhp&q=freefall+space+youtube&oq=freefall+space+you&aq=0v&aqi=g-v1&aql=1&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=6407l19373l0l20829l21l21l0l3l3l0l406l4061l2-10.2.2l14l0


13 posted on 02/07/2012 11:32:05 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: dead

CAPT (later COL) Joseph Kittinger jumped from something like 102 kft during Project Excelsior ... he used a drogue chute to prevent spinning. This also prevented him going supersonic.


14 posted on 02/07/2012 11:36:18 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

There should be cheaper ways to apply Darwin Awards...


15 posted on 02/07/2012 11:36:36 AM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Been done before... Not sure that guy tried to break the sound barrier, but he did survive the trip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Excelsior


16 posted on 02/07/2012 11:37:07 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Joe Kittinger has held the record for over 50 years at over 102,000 feet. He did three high altitude test jumps to see if a drogue chute would stop high altitude ejection flat spin and almost died on one of the jumps. The final one, his pressure suit failed and his hand froze at the minus 94 degree temperature experienced.

If this guy goes about 16% higher, but 50 years later, I still think Kittinger has the bigger brass.


17 posted on 02/07/2012 11:37:19 AM PST by KC Burke (Newton's New First Law, Repeal and Restore!)
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To: dead

Joseph Kittinger

Project Excelsior

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Excelsior


18 posted on 02/07/2012 11:37:27 AM PST by njslim
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

What kind of aerodynamic structure will he be in to protect against friction ripping him apart?


19 posted on 02/07/2012 11:38:16 AM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: dead
With all the new technology, I don't know what's taken it so long for somebody to try it again

Teachers Union reply: "People today are so much smarter and better educated! That's why no one tries stuff like this!"
Conservative reply: "People today lack courage! Years ago, Americans thrived on bold action!"
X-gamer reply: "Dude! Can I use my wingsuit?"

20 posted on 02/07/2012 11:38:38 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I am pro-Jesus, anti-abortion, pro-limited government, anti-GOP.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
It is 1959 all over again. The Excelsior Project...
21 posted on 02/07/2012 11:38:46 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: mamelukesabre

They are claiming that 680 MPH IS the speed of sound at 120k ft. I’m not sure if that is correct or not. I know that the speed of sound is about 760 mph at sea level.


22 posted on 02/07/2012 11:39:43 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: dead
Some guy in the Air Force did this, sometime around 1960, and still holds the free fall record. With all the new technology, I don't know what's taken it so long for somebody to try it again.

He had a small drogue chute and did not exceed the speed of sound.

What I would be concerned about is when he breaks the sound barrier the dynamic forces on his body will change such that he becomes an unstable falling object and then experience G forces that may render him unconscious.

I wear a parachute when I fly my glider. I sure as hell am not stepping outside unless the glider is total uncontrollable.

23 posted on 02/07/2012 11:41:21 AM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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Colonel Joe Kittinger, Jr.

24 posted on 02/07/2012 11:42:24 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

I’m obviously no scientist, and I wonder why terminal velocity (120 mph or something) doesn’t come into play here if it’s supposedly “terminal”. I mean, he isn’t using power to drop, is he?

I’m confused. Help!

cheers
Jim


25 posted on 02/07/2012 11:46:44 AM PST by gymbeau (Free Tibet! (limit two per customer))
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To: gymbeau

There’s no terminal velocity in space. Thinner air = higher terminal velocity.


26 posted on 02/07/2012 11:51:23 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: A.A. Cunningham
According to that link:

On the way, he (Kittinger) became the first man to exceed the speed of sound -- without a plane.

27 posted on 02/07/2012 11:51:52 AM PST by Never on my watch (As a matter of fact, IT IS something worth getting angry over!)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
THAT is a hell of a resume!
28 posted on 02/07/2012 11:54:44 AM PST by Never on my watch (As a matter of fact, IT IS something worth getting angry over!)
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To: gymbeau

I think you reach speeds in excess of TV just by going into a delta position arms to sides.


29 posted on 02/07/2012 11:56:15 AM PST by Rappini (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: gymbeau

Terminal velocity depends on air resistence and gravity.
120 mph is only good for 10,000 feet or so.
Terminal velocity from stationary in space is 7 miles per second = escape velocity, which is the same thing in reverse if there is no air.


30 posted on 02/07/2012 11:59:50 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: mamelukesabre

Thanks! Does that mean he’ll start slowing down as the atmosphere gets more dense?

cheers
Jim


31 posted on 02/07/2012 12:00:40 PM PST by gymbeau (Free Tibet! (limit two per customer))
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Man that gives me the heebee jeebees just looking at that picture!


32 posted on 02/07/2012 12:02:49 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Is it too late to add this guy to my “Dead Pool?”


33 posted on 02/07/2012 12:02:59 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: Rappini

Thanks.

cheers,
Jim


34 posted on 02/07/2012 12:03:04 PM PST by gymbeau (Free Tibet! (limit two per customer))
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Can he hold off attempting this until next January so I can put him on my Celebrity Dead Pool list for 2013?


35 posted on 02/07/2012 12:05:40 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: GreenHornet

Dang, I knew I should have read all the posts before posting a comment... ;-)


36 posted on 02/07/2012 12:08:57 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

This is definitely a Special Darwin Experience! Will we get to see Video of the explosion that will win him the Darwin Award of 2012???????


37 posted on 02/07/2012 12:12:11 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: jaydubya2

The speed of sound is dependent on air temperature.


38 posted on 02/07/2012 12:12:44 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: massgopguy
When he breaks the sound barrier. Every organ in his body will explode.

He won't reach that speed.

Based on wind resistance, the terminal velocity of a skydiver in a belly-to-earth (ie:face down) free-fall position is about 122 mph.
This velocity is the limiting value of the acceleration process because the effective forces on the body balance each other more and more closely as the terminal velocity is approached.

In this example, a speed of 50% of terminal velocity is reached after only about 3 seconds, while it takes 8 seconds to reach 90%, 15 seconds to reach 99% and so on.
Higher speeds can be attained if the skydiver pulls in his or her limbs. In this case, the terminal velocity increases to about 200 mph which is almost the terminal velocity of the Peregrine Falcon diving down on its prey.
The same terminal velocity is reached for a typical .30-06 bullet dropping downwards—when it is returning to earth having been fired upwards or dropped from a tower—according to a 1920 U.S. Army Ordnance study.

Competition speed skydivers fly in the head down position and reach even higher speeds. The current world record is 614 mph by Joseph Kittinger, set at high altitude where the lesser density of the atmosphere decreased drag.

So this guy hopes to break the current world record by 76 mph? The physics don't support it.

And if he does, as you say, he's dead meat.

39 posted on 02/07/2012 12:16:33 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Do all He commands. Receive all He promises.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Thanks Jack,

So, based on your comment, and what I read on the web, Altitude is not a factor in calculating the speed of sound. Temperature (density) is the determining factor. So, at 120k ft @ -94F, the speed of sound is 638.97 mph.
40 posted on 02/07/2012 12:29:26 PM PST by jaydubya2
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Thanks Jack,

So, based on your comment, and what I read on the web, Altitude is not a factor in calculating the speed of sound. Temperature (density) is the determining factor. So, at 120k ft @ -94F, the speed of sound is 638.97 mph.
41 posted on 02/07/2012 12:29:51 PM PST by jaydubya2
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To: mamelukesabre
Havn’t you ever noticed at high elevations, like on a mountain, you see things before you hear the sound they make?

That is always the case, noticeable at significant distances.

The speed of light is always going to be far greater than the speed of sound, at any elevation.

42 posted on 02/07/2012 12:33:08 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: gymbeau

not only will he slow down, he will heat up.


43 posted on 02/07/2012 12:33:39 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: jaydubya2

Altitude *IS* a factor. The higher up you go in the column of air, the lower the weight of the atmosphere above it.


44 posted on 02/07/2012 12:35:48 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: thackney

When you are over a mile up, it is noticeable at much less than significant distances.


45 posted on 02/07/2012 12:37:50 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: cpdiii
and then experience G forces

He is free falling, not rocket propelled. He is not going to experience more than 1 G. Gravity and friction are the only forces involved.

During de-acceleration he may have greater force through his harness, but before.

46 posted on 02/07/2012 12:38:00 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

It has been done before, so it is survivable.


47 posted on 02/07/2012 12:44:04 PM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: jaydubya2

That sounds about right.

If you want to see what it is like to drop from 94,000+ feet watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl2OIQMbZhg

I think what would be a fun project to do is make an R/C skydiving dummy that you would drop from a balloon. Once it gets into range pop the chute and guide it back for a landing.


48 posted on 02/07/2012 12:49:42 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

What an idiot.
I hope he enjoys breaking the sound barrier before deploying his chute. It will probably be the last thing he ever experiences except for frictional heating.


49 posted on 02/07/2012 12:51:06 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Defeat Obama. End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: 6SJ7

“Cap Troopers Rule!” - Johnny Rico


50 posted on 02/07/2012 12:53:45 PM PST by jagusafr ("Write in Palin and prepare for war...")
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