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Off-Duty Deputy Accused of Pulling Gun on Pregnant Couple
NBCChicago ^ | Feb 10, 2012 | Lauren Jiggetts

Posted on 02/10/2012 11:06:23 AM PST by Daffynition

The Kendall County Sheriff's Department has launched an internal investigation into an alleged incident involving an off-duty deputy pulling a gun on a pregnant woman in a Walmart express lane.

Just one week from her due date, Nicole Thurmond said she feared for her life while checking out at a Walmart store in Oswego on a recent Sunday.

"I felt someone close behind me. He started being really rude and said, 'Don't you know how to count? You are holding up the whole store," Thurmond recalled.

Thurmond said she didn't know it at the time, but the man in plain clothes was off-duty deputy Craig French.

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1 posted on 02/10/2012 11:06:31 AM PST by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

This Moment In Tyranny brought to you by the JBTs at the Kendall County Sheriff’s Department.

If she brought a dog with her the dog would have died for sure.


2 posted on 02/10/2012 11:13:05 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

So many dumba$$es have made their way into law enforcement I don’t trust my fellow law enforcement officers outside of my county/disctrict.


3 posted on 02/10/2012 11:18:10 AM PST by brent13a (Freerepublic is a great site for conservative news, if you can stomach the cop hating.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Not everyone in police work was meant to be in the field.


4 posted on 02/10/2012 11:22:02 AM PST by Molon Labbie (End the War On Drugs, Restore the Constitution.)
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To: Daffynition
deputy Craig French

That explains it.

5 posted on 02/10/2012 11:23:59 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Molon Labbie
Not everyone in police work was meant to be in the field.

Unfortunately, the only way the ones who shouldn't be in the field are weeded out is usually through tragedy and creates unnecessary victims.

I really wish there was a less taxing weeding out process......but that would also entail a better hiring process.

And I have no idea how it can be fixed, aside from the usual libertarian solution of "get rid of or disband all law enforcement".
6 posted on 02/10/2012 11:30:24 AM PST by brent13a (Freerepublic is a great site for conservative news, if you can stomach the cop hating.)
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To: Daffynition

I read the article.

I can see why the deputy pulled his weapon. I don’t condone it, but if some ass-clown shoved me, I’d get mad too.

But I would not pull a gun over it.


7 posted on 02/10/2012 11:32:29 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Daffynition

I’d say the deputy is lucky that the other guy wasn’t carrying. If someone pulled a gun on me without identifying himself as an LEO, and I was carrying at the time, there would be shooting.


8 posted on 02/10/2012 11:37:09 AM PST by dinodino
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To: brent13a

I think that becoming a cop should be like other professions like carpenter or electrician. There should be apprentice, journeyman, and master phases. It should not be done on a whim or because the bottom dropped out of your current profession.

Starting prospective cops young gets administrators, trainers and recruiters a long time to assess whether that prospect can pack the gear.

I did a background and oral board of a female last year who used a grant to go through the police academy and has been sitting on her ample duff for the last three years of unemployment or other gov handouts. She had no family in LE and no clue what she was doing.

Needless to say, she was not even considered and primarily it was her work ethic that did her in.


9 posted on 02/10/2012 11:39:12 AM PST by Molon Labbie (End the War On Drugs, Restore the Constitution.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I can see why the deputy pulled his weapon

If some jerk got into my wife's face and started yelling at her in line at the Wal-Mart, I'd be wiping the floor with his face before he had time to pull a gun out.

And if he did get the gun out, he'd better kill me with the first shot, because after that I'd be inserting the bullets up his rectum, manually.

10 posted on 02/10/2012 11:40:17 AM PST by Fido969
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To: Fido969

That’s not what happened.

Read the article.


11 posted on 02/10/2012 11:41:33 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Jack Hydrazine

12 posted on 02/10/2012 11:56:54 AM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Molon Labbie
Needless to say, she was not even considered and primarily it was her work ethic that did her in.

I commend the board on not caving to political correctness.....which is probably the number one reason we're in the predicament we're in, with law enforcement and even in the military.
13 posted on 02/10/2012 11:57:22 AM PST by brent13a (Freerepublic is a great site for conservative news, if you can stomach the cop hating.)
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To: Navy Patriot
Probably one of those pesky French Canadians, to boot. :)


14 posted on 02/10/2012 12:02:03 PM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Molon Labbie

Good on ya.... Stay safe.....


15 posted on 02/10/2012 12:02:41 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Responsibility2nd
If you shopping cart looks like this...

**...or if there is even a question that you have more than 20 items, hows about shufflin your butt over to the next lane with the conveyor belt and waiting your turn like all the rest of the large cart pushers. See that lane has a conveyor belt for a reason, it can hold 57 cans of best choice pinto beans no problem. The "speedy" checkout has a counter. A counter just large enough to hold 20 average items. So, when I am standing behind you in the "speedy" checkout with a package of batteries and your putting your 39th box of fishsticks on the counter, I start to scan the magazine rack looking for something that I can stab you with.**

16 posted on 02/10/2012 12:05:47 PM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Daffynition

Exactly!

I picked up on that right away. And to further add insult to injury these two idiots (with more than 20 items) were not even ready to check out in the first place.

We see that as the article indicates the husband was still out shopping for eggs.

The article also alluded to the idea the couple was on welfare. And that explains a lot. The entitlement mentality that idiots have that allows them to cut in line, or get in an express line with 20 or more items, and even holding up the line while hubby shops for even more food is beyond belief.

Unfortunately for this poor off-duty deputy, he over reacted and is now in trouble.


17 posted on 02/10/2012 12:12:44 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Daffynition
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18 posted on 02/10/2012 12:13:19 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Fido969

19 posted on 02/10/2012 12:13:42 PM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I've been in a check-out line, with more than 12 items inmy wagon when the CDC [supervising person who is monitoring lines and cashiers] and herded me into a speedy check-out lane. And variably a *legitimate-under-12* customer will come along behind me, and give me a dirty look, b/c I have more than 12 items. Oi!

The mention of * welfare* was made by the detective, IIRC...he's the one projecting.

Internal investigations are often pointless.


20 posted on 02/10/2012 12:27:46 PM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Please tell what appears to be gross stupidity is just your attempt at sarcasm.
21 posted on 02/10/2012 12:31:43 PM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: starlifter

Do you know what you’re talking about? Cause I sure dont.

“Gross Stupidity” “Sarcasm” ????????

I said.... the deputy over reacted and is now in trouble. What part of that do you disagree with?

Geez. Or if there was something else you couldn’t understand, let me know what it was, and I’ll be happy to explain it to you.

On second thought, just keep your igorance to yourself.

Thanks.


22 posted on 02/10/2012 12:38:51 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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23 posted on 02/10/2012 12:39:05 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Daffynition

Stupid headline. There was one and not two pregnant women in the situation.


24 posted on 02/10/2012 12:42:05 PM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I reread your post and here are some of the juicy bits:

“these two idiots (with more than 20 items)” - How many items did they have? How do you know?

“The article also alluded to the idea the couple was on welfare.” - BS. The stupid cop asked them if they were on welfare. Were they?

“The entitlement mentality that idiots have that allows them to cut in line” What entitlement mentality other than the POS cop's?

“Unfortunately for this poor off-duty deputy, he over reacted and is now in trouble.” Unfortunately?? The idiot pulled a gun.

“Poor off-duty deputy” this asswipe should be out of a job and in a jail.

25 posted on 02/10/2012 12:59:45 PM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: bamahead

Checkout Line JBT ping. Cop pulls gun on pregnant woman, arrests husband who is trying to defend her.

Maybe the JBT had some donuts in his cart?
Needed them faster?

; )


26 posted on 02/10/2012 4:03:52 PM PST by TheConservativeParty (Dems are bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.WI dems are even worse.)
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To: Bigg Red
>>:)


27 posted on 02/10/2012 4:07:22 PM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Unfortunately for this poor off-duty deputy, he over reacted and is now in trouble.

Poor off duty deputy? This guy pulled a gun in public, in a store full of people...For what?

For a minor squabble at the checkout, the husband sees his pregnant wife is upset, sees a person who turns out to be a deputy whom he alleged "was in her face, yelling at her, in an aggressive manner, he steps toward him and the husband pushes back to keep him away"

The term, "Overreacting" would be the glaring understatement of the month.

28 posted on 02/10/2012 4:21:14 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Daffynition

I note the citizen is facing charges for pushing the off-duty officer.

When are they ever considered just another citizen behaving as a goon?

Some animals are more equal than others I guess.


29 posted on 02/10/2012 4:38:43 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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30 posted on 02/10/2012 7:29:42 PM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Bigg Red
Uh..err................you may be right. Stoopid title ...........ugly journalism


31 posted on 02/10/2012 7:32:22 PM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: starlifter
"The entitlement mentality that idiots have that allows them to cut in line” What entitlement mentality other than the POS cop's?

"Make me wait in line while you get eggs? I'll protect and serve your a$$ to death." The blue gangster shoulda worn his 'colors' so people would know there was a PSYCHOPATH in line.

I'd love to do a poll...if it was a Crip in line in back of this lady, would she have gotten more courtesy, or less? ;^)



32 posted on 02/10/2012 8:06:14 PM PST by AnTiw1 (I lived through a mormon hell, I will not live in a country with a mormon president.)
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To: Daffynition

Well, I know what the stupid headline was about, i.e., political correctness. Referring to a “pregnant couple” is just plain ridiculous; the couple can be said to be “expecting”, but it is only the woman who is pregnant.

OTOH, in the pic, he looks closer to term than she does. (Oooh, not nice, Bigg Red. Lots of men gain a few pounds when the wife is expecting.)


33 posted on 02/11/2012 8:43:34 AM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: dinodino

“identifying himself as an LEO”

Wouldn’t matter to me. Abuse my wife, pull a gun, and watch your brains splatter.


34 posted on 02/11/2012 10:15:46 AM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: Daffynition

"So the question you're asking is - are there 20 or 21 items in my cart? Well, to tell you the truth, in all the excitement I've kind of lost count. So the question you really should be asking is 'Do I feel lucky'?

"Well... do ya, punk?"

35 posted on 02/11/2012 2:09:04 PM PST by Fido969
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