Posted on 02/19/2012 3:57:01 AM PST by Chance Hart
First off, I am a conservative and have spent countless hours listening to and reading the books of all these men. Reading Levin's Liberty and Tyranny was compelling, as were many of the publications of these Patriots. With the VAST amount of Constitutional research accumulated in order to write these best sellers, there is and has always has been one important fact known to ALL these men to be a Constitutional FACT missing. That non negotiable FACT is that according to the Constitution, Barack Hussein Obama is NOT eligible to be placed on the ballot, let alone occupy his present position as President of the United States of America! Obama himself touts the fact that his father was a British Subject at the time of his “BHO 2’s” birth, making him at the very least a duel citizen and not eligible to hold the office as president. Furthermore, Daddy was NEVER a citizen of the United States, again making Jr. ineligible with that fact alone. None of these men (as far as I know) served in the military for whatever reason and I think there may be some suppressed guilt because of that when I hear their accolades regarding current and former Men of Honor. As they refer to many of their callers and guests as “Brother”, they at the same time have never felt compelled to commit the heroic act of jumping on a Firecracker, let alone a Grenade to help save their “Brothers” and in the end help save this Nation. Levin is the one that has disappointed me the most when I heard him disenfranchise many of his loyal listeners on Jan 19th, 2010 (may have been the 20th) by referring to those that even questioned the eligibility issue as (paraphrasing) ignorant and foolish. He followed that comment by saying that Obama was of course eligible to be President. He, in my opinion is an expert on the Constitution and knows full well that his statement was an out and out lie. When the truth finally reveals itself, I can almost hear the excuses from these Less than Honorable radio and TV Patriots now – 1. I was given strict orders from station bosses not to bring up or allow discussion on the eligibility issue and to refer to those that do bring it up as ignorant Birthers. 2. Yes, I of course knew the simple truth, but decided it was the wrong approach to be honest when the proper way to handle this was at the Ballot Box. 3. Book sales were BOOMING and I was too GUTLESS to show the Courage that I ask my listeners to display on a daily basis. 4. There are a few in the business that are standing their ground on this issue and Liberals are calling them names. Sticks and Stones will break my Bones and even Words would really hurt me because I AM A COWARD! By the way, there are thousands of these Cowards walking the halls of Congress and other places that have at least to this point failed to MAN UP. All this makes me admire all the more the few that in their heart really do trust God Almighty and FEAR NO EVIL.
Did you actually look at your link? The ENTIRE third clause was replaced. Gone completely.
Yes - the entire THIRD CLAUSE was superseded - no longer valid.
The replacement words are found in the 12 amendment. They were not pasted into the the section.
Exactly what I said in the first place.
This is what Mario Apuzzo, Esquire has to say on the matter
“There is a dispute, among courts and commentators, as to
whether the provision known as the “Natural Born Citizen” clause should be cited as clause 4 or clause 5 of Article II, § 1 of the Constitution. Compare Hollander v. McCain, 566 F. Supp. 2d 63,65 (D.N.H. 2008) (citing the provision as clause 4), Rhodes v.MacDonald, No. 4:09-CV-106, 2009 WL 2997605, at *1 n.1 (M.D.Ga. Sept. 16, 2009) (same), and Gerard N. Magliocca,Constitutional False Positives and the Populist Movement, 81NOTRE DAME L. REV. 821, 874 (2006) (same)”
http://www.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/094209p.pdf
Do you trust Mario Apuzzo, Esquire?
Oh, BTW, you forgot this part...
You're back to your beer drinking fantasy with Berg.
I apologize for saying you made an "outright lie", you made a little white lie, IMO, as the substance of the clause still exists.
Do you trust Mario Apuzzo, Esquire?
Yeah, I do. It's you I don't trust.
We were not arguing the substance of the clause. We were arguing whether it was proper for the Ankeny judge to refer to it as Clause 4 vice 5.
Cut the revisionist nonsense.
So anyway, why did you leave off that part of the footnote?
One more thing...Why did you imply that Mario Apuzzo made that statement when it's clearly SLOVITER who made it?
“The excuses for these talking heads is always - they will be marginalized and can’t talk about other pressing issues.
They must ssee that they have the power if they UNITE against the lamestream media.
If all of them, including the GOP candidates, publicly challenge soetoro/obama’s elig., start a national dialogue, do some digging, they will get the people’s support and the dam will crack.
But not one of them dares to get started. They let the left frighten them into submission.”
I, too, am constantly frosted over the silence and/or ridicule directed at us by those who purport to be our “conservative voices”. Rush has on occasion hinted in a vague way that he’s on our side - but it’s been very veiled.
Considering the logic in our argument, there is NO logic in the fact that virtually none of them will broach the subject. That mass, or united, response of theirs makes no sense. Simple logic says some of them - even just one of them - would have out of their own curiosity wondered out loud about this eligibility debate.
Their united adversity is simply not the normal reaction to come people whose occupations are to raise questions.
Their united silence indicates they have reason-in-common to refuse to address it. There’s one thing all in the broadcast business have in common, from every single on-air employee of Fox News, to Rush/Levin/Ingraham, which is that each and every day they tiptoe through a minefield which operates at the whim of Obama: the FCC. The FCC is Obie’s nuclear option: be on his side of the “birther issue”, or your broadcast license will not be renewed.
Does Obama have the constitutional authority to pull FCC licenses? I really don’t know. Would not having that authority restrain him? We all know the answer to that one: absolutely not.
Example of broadcaster’s mind-set: a few weeks ago Joseph Farrah was one of the guests on Hannity’s tv show. When Farrah quite innocuously included “eligibility” among things about Obama that should be looked into, the reaction on Hannity’s face was of near-panic - he very briefly muttered something, stammering - and they immediately went to break.
Seems pretty obvious that Obama’s [in]eligibility is something they are not ALLOWED to mention.
Come to think of it, that is a flat out lie as it was SLOVITER himself who made the statement and it's in the second sentence of "OPINION OF THE COURT" right under "SLOVITER, Circuit Judge."
Same with...well, you get the picture.
Ah, I got it now. Settings conflict. Trying to block all these trackers and such.
what we really need is a whole bunch of strong high charactered men to step up and run for every office in America, starting with the school board, the courts, the city, county and state legislatures and on up...
we need a mass of these guys....
but alas, the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue is the most important thing to many American men...
you want an enemy?... a person to blame.....America, look in the mirror....
stop blaming some radio heads...
“And who do you think needs to hold their feet to the fire so they don’t cave on issues? “
It’s not their job to do your thinking for you.
It’s their job to have successful radio shows with a following.
It’s their job to present the facts, and it’s YOUR job to make up your own mind.
If Rush were to endorse someone today, and trash the other candidates, what do you think he would be able to accomplish AFTER the primaries? NADA, if his endorsed candidate were to lose.
They are, all, between a rock and a hard place. Cut them some slack.
Puhleeze.
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