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"Let Them Eat Sight-Words"
CanadaFreePress ^ | Feb. 15, 2012 | Bruce Deitrick Price

Posted on 02/21/2012 3:37:12 PM PST by BruceDeitrickPrice

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To: codder too
Who will take credit for all **your**hard work?

Answer: The school, of course and those who push sight reading!

One thing that steams me is that these school ratings **never** take into account all the hard work parents and kids do **afterschooling** and **preschooling** IN THE HOME!

21 posted on 02/21/2012 5:51:58 PM PST by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

I learned sight reading in first grade (they didn’t offer kindergarten at the public school) and was qualified to read any book in the library by the time I started third grade.


22 posted on 02/21/2012 6:02:59 PM PST by Eva
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To: Straight Vermonter

My grandson was reading sight words at 15 months.


23 posted on 02/21/2012 6:05:10 PM PST by Eva
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To: Reddy

A lot of our “functionally illiterate” children (and teachers) are foreign language and ebonic speakers and they have their diversity race “right” to be functionally illiterate. How does a public school child learn to read and write when English is not their language? They don’t.


24 posted on 02/21/2012 6:07:24 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Kenny Bunk

It all depends on the style of learning that a child has. You have to be a visual learner to learn sight reading. My family are all visual learners and not very good auditory learners.

When my grandson was 18 months old, he could read every word in his vocabulary and some words that were not in his vocabulary, like chimpanzee.

When I was in college, I was in an advanced English comp class for students that scored above 650 on their English boards. The teacher told us that we were all sight readers and that studies showed that because we were sight readers we were also very fast readers, but we were also the worst spellers. We had spelling lessons in Eng. Comp, that the lower classes did not have.


25 posted on 02/21/2012 6:14:20 PM PST by Eva
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

INITIAL TEACHING ALPHABET...Yes, my impression was that ITA made no earthly sense. Almost a separate language. Very scary when you first glance at it. But there’s still a foundation pushing it!

“Let them eat ITA!”

The sad truth is that our Education Establishment was/is a lot more dedicated to illiteracy than to literacy. All the evidence shouts that.


26 posted on 02/21/2012 6:15:14 PM PST by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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To: Eva

Everything in your post is proved false by specific, documented studies referenced in the book that I mentioned in my previous post . . . for Pete’s sake.


27 posted on 02/21/2012 7:09:49 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Eva
“I learned sight reading in first grade (they didn’t offer kindergarten at the public school) and was qualified to read any book in the library by the time I started third grade.”

Too bad. Children who are taught phonics are reading before kindergarten.

28 posted on 02/21/2012 7:13:04 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: ari-freedom

RE: “Sig Engelmann’s “Teach your child to read in 100 easy lessons”


Siegfried Engelmann and Samuel Blumenfeld are two of America’s real educators. I recommend anything by them over everything pushed by the Education Establishment.


29 posted on 02/21/2012 8:13:06 PM PST by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

I think that the best phonics program in the US is the Abeka K-5, Grade 1 and Grade 2 program. Works well, is colorful and gets the job done.

I taught four using it and it was very successful. All learned to read well and comprehend easily. Never needed the third grade program, went straight to Easy Grammer and its companion book.


30 posted on 02/21/2012 8:28:49 PM PST by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice
” Experts agree that writing helps reading. (Montessori taught writing first.) Cursive especially helps reading” ( From the article cited at the end of the post)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The boys in our cub scout troop tell me that they are not not taught cursive.

Seriously...After working with the cub scouts for 3 years, I am convinced that the **only** children in our county learning to read and do arithmetic are those kids who have parents that do **tons** of afterschooling.

Who takes the credit for the high standardized test scores after the parents have done tons of afterschooling? The teachers and principal, of course!

Who do the teachers and principals blame when the child fails to learn to read or do basic arithmetic? The parents, of course!

Personally....I would like to see the studies that show exactly how much is learned in the classroom as compared to what is acquired ** at home** due to the parents’ and child's’ own efforts.

31 posted on 02/21/2012 9:06:07 PM PST by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice; Eva; ari-freedom
I think we all more or less agree that there is a place for "Sight" reading and "Phonics." Furthermore, McGuffey having shuffled off the mortal coil, Sig and Sam be the man, among others!

The problem (Yes, Virginia, there is a problem) is that the "Teacher College"-based educational establishment tends toward "one size fits all" theories, and they put all their reading eggs in the "Sight" basket. This has had the effect of putting the dream of universal literacy, especially among the lower middle class, way behind the 8-ball. My community College kids are just as "smart," as anyone on this planet. Their inability to really read effectively is enough to make an old man (me) weep!

It is very interesting that in O say, 1920, most American "educators" were "conservative," and tended to belong to the Republican Party. The Communists very deliberately and consciously set out to change that.

Newsflash! In the brief span of 25 years or so, they succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.

32 posted on 02/22/2012 6:58:10 AM PST by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice
In our school district, we teach and test the kids on each letter and the sound/s they make. We teach beginning blends as well as words with a "bossy 'e' at the end (making the vowel say its name). We also teach them 'tricky words', the ones that don't play fair (can't sound out) like 'said'

I can't imagine that any school teaches kids to read any other way.

33 posted on 02/22/2012 7:05:34 AM PST by CAluvdubya
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To: goodwithagun

There was no kindergarten, where I lived and when I asked my mother to teach me, she told me to wait until I went to school. I did not come from a particularly literate family. There wasn’t any help or interest from the family.

As a matter of fact, it was so bad that the superintendent of schools came to fist our house to discuss the lack of proper academic stimulation with my parents. They had given by brother an IQ test and were shocked at the fact that the district had never seen such a high IQ, especially coming from a blue collar family.


34 posted on 02/22/2012 8:49:03 AM PST by Eva
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To: codder too

Look say bit one of my grandchildren. I resent it highly.


35 posted on 02/22/2012 11:18:29 AM PST by Ole Okie
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To: Ole Okie

I strongly urge that you purchase Charlotte Iserbyt’s book, THE DELIBERATE DUMBING DOWN of AMERICA. You will learn how and why our nations schools have been turned into school-to-work training institutions. Also suggest you buy the hard copy even though it is available online too. Internet access could be blocked but an in hand printed copy is much safer. You will find it to be an invaluable resource. It will make you angry but give you the information you need in order to decide what is best for your family. Private school, home school, parochial but not Charters as they are part of the same ‘government controlled system ‘.


36 posted on 02/22/2012 12:11:31 PM PST by codder too
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To: Kenny Bunk
McGuffey has hardly “bit the dust.” I used it with my own children, and there is a company that does nothing but reprint all of the McGuffey books. It is quite popular with the home school crowd.
37 posted on 02/22/2012 2:05:57 PM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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