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Former lieutenant says he regrets handling of fatal DUI involving Chicago cop
Chicago Tribune ^ | February 22, 2012 | Jason Meisner and Jeremy Gorner

Posted on 02/23/2012 7:47:49 AM PST by Altariel

A teenage boy was dead, his crumpled bicycle still lying underneath a van at the South Side intersection where he was struck by a speeding car shortly before 2 a.m. A few blocks away, off-duty Chicago police Officer Richard Bolling had been stopped driving the wrong way down a one-way street, the windshield of his Dodge Charger smashed and splattered with blood. The patrol officers smelled alcohol on his breath and found an open bottle of beer in the console.

If it were a typical fatal DUI investigation, the driver would be promptly asked to consent to field sobriety tests and a breath test.

But with an off-duty cop involved, Lt. John Brundage decided to order the patrol officers to hold off on testing Bolling until a higher-ranking commander arrived, leaving the officer to sober up in the back of the police car as crucial minutes ticked by that early morning in May 2009. Two hours after the crash, Bolling was given a field sobriety test. He wasn't ordered to take a breath test until almost three hours after the field test.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: chicago; donutwatch; dui
So, does this mean that every private citizen who kills someone in a DUI can have two hours before they take a field sobriety test and wait almost three hours AFTER given the field test to be given a breath test?
1 posted on 02/23/2012 7:47:55 AM PST by Altariel
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To: Altariel

Not at all.


2 posted on 02/23/2012 7:52:28 AM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: Altariel
The end of the article... wow...

Much of what transpired over the next several hours was captured on the dashboard camera of the squad car where Bolling had been placed under arrest.

According to a court filing, shortly after 2 a.m., an undisclosed superior officer leaned into the car and said to Bolling, "We're going to have to give you the standard field sobriety test. ... I'm gonna try to help you out as much as possible, the lieutenant's on the scene."

Prosecutors did not play that portion of the video for the jury, and the state's attorney's office denied the Tribune's Freedom of Information Act request for a copy of the entire video, citing the pending criminal case.

3 posted on 02/23/2012 7:54:56 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Altariel
This has been said to me for years:
Not everyone in police work was meant to be in the field.
And my usual response is this:
Unfortunately, the only way the ones who shouldn't be in the field are weeded out is usually through tragedy and creates unnecessary victims.

I've also said the following:
There is one way to weed out those who should never enter law enforcement.....and it's the single greatest threat to the public throughout law enforcement and all first responder services: affirmative action hiring and testing as political correctness is our downfall.
4 posted on 02/23/2012 7:57:39 AM PST by brent13a (Freerepublic is a great site for conservative news, if you can stomach the cop hating.)
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To: Altariel
What I mean is:
There is one way to weed out those who should never enter law enforcement.....get rid of affirmative action testing and hiring.
5 posted on 02/23/2012 7:59:01 AM PST by brent13a (Freerepublic is a great site for conservative news, if you can stomach the cop hating.)
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To: RitchieAprile
3 hrs in some rural areas can be normal for a Alcohol test to be given. Travel time can be a hr plus to the nearest testing site.

There are experts that can testify to the blood alchohol levels at the time of the crash.

6 posted on 02/23/2012 8:02:23 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: brent13a

“There is one way to weed out those who should never enter law enforcement.....get rid of affirmative action testing and hiring.”

So only minority cops are corrupt?


7 posted on 02/23/2012 8:04:09 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Altariel
Brundage and the undisclosed superior officer need to spend a very long time in a small windowless cell. Hopefully, a civil lawsuit will make the rest of their lives miserable.
8 posted on 02/23/2012 8:07:18 AM PST by Truth29
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To: riverrunner

But this case didn’t occur in a rural area. It occurred in the South Side.


9 posted on 02/23/2012 8:11:29 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: driftdiver

Well the last time I checked, affirmative action/political correctness applied to gender, race, mental and physical deficiancies, and sexual orientation. So to answer your question....no.
I guess my original point is too vague.


10 posted on 02/23/2012 8:20:46 AM PST by brent13a (Freerepublic is a great site for conservative news, if you can stomach the cop hating.)
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To: Altariel

Yes, and they are talking about “field test” which officers conduct on the scene.


11 posted on 02/23/2012 8:38:23 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: brent13a

So, getting rid of Affirmative action would stop officers from aiding an officer who killed a teenager in a DUI?

It seems to me that the problem in the Chicago police department is not limited to the results of affirmative action.


12 posted on 02/23/2012 8:43:13 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

This is another example of us verses them.


13 posted on 02/23/2012 8:52:04 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: RitchieAprile

You are pimping for cops on FR. We don’t need a special class of protected, armed, militarized, corrupt people.


14 posted on 02/23/2012 8:53:32 AM PST by AlmaKing
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To: Altariel
By the time Downs ordered Bolling to submit to an alcohol-breath test, it was 5:57 a.m., nearly 4 1/2 hours after the crash, Bolling blew a 0.079 percent, just under the state legal limit of 0.08

Convenient.

15 posted on 02/23/2012 10:15:36 AM PST by Mr.Unique (EVERYBODY is a RINO. Except me.)
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To: driftdiver
It wasn't my post, but I'll comment anyway.

No.

But if you can only get in through affirmative action, with a lowering of standards, then you are more likely to be incompetent.

Don't you think?

16 posted on 02/23/2012 1:21:35 PM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: chesley

It wasn’t incompetence which led to this event. It was the criminal behavior of one cop and then numerous others helping to cover up the crime involving the death of an innocent.

Criminal vs incompetent, there is a difference.

So again, what does affirmative action have to do with this crime and subsequent coverup?


17 posted on 02/23/2012 1:25:09 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Criminal vs incompetent? Sure, you’re right about that.

However, my comment was more broadly based, and had to do with affirmative action, per se.

It’s criminal in itself.

Further, the incompetent are more apt, I think, to take shortcuts. However, in this particular case, I don’t know that it makes a difference. Do we even know what flavor of “protected group” that these policemen were, if they were? I don’t even know that.


18 posted on 02/23/2012 1:36:20 PM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: chesley

Well the guy expressing remorse looks white, guess that makes him highly qualified in your book.


19 posted on 02/23/2012 1:59:04 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Altariel
This is just one reason why cops are despised/ stories are strangely similar.:

November 10, 2010

The off-duty Windsor Locks police officer who drove the car that hit and killed a 15-year-old boy was drinking at a tailgate party outside the UConn- West Virginia football game hours before the crash, state police sources have told The Courant.

The sources said investigators are developing a timeline of Michael Koistinen's whereabouts in the hours before his car hit Henry Dang shortly before midnight on Oct. 29. Dang, a Windsor Locks High sophomore, was riding his bicycle home from a friend's house on West Street in Windsor Locks when he was killed on Spring Street.

The Courant reported Wednesday that state police also have a video of Koistinen, 24, drinking at the Suffield Tavern that night before the accident.

Windsor Locks police did not take a blood sample from Koistinen or administer a Breathalyzer test. The sources said Koistinen went to the bar after attending the tailgate party at Rentschler Field in East Hartford. It is unclear if Koistinen watched any of the game, which went into overtime, but sources said investigators have witnesses who can place him there before the 8 p.m. kickoff.

Hartford State's Attorney Gail Hardy asked state police to take over the investigation last week. Windsor Locks police and the North Central Municipal Regional Accident Reconstruction Team, made up of officers from area departments, initially conducted the probe.

Windsor Locks Police Chief John Suchocki told The Courant Wednesday that the regional accident team was called to the scene at 12:10 a.m., within minutes of the accident. Suchocki did not say when the first officers from the team arrived to take over the investigation.

He also would not comment on whether Sgt. Robert Koistinen, Michael's father, was in charge of the crash scene. Dang's family had criticized the department for allowing the elder Koistinen to be at the scene.

Sources said Michael Koistinen had already been taken to Johnson Memorial Hospital in Stafford Springs when members of the regional reconstruction team arrived after the accident. State police sought Koistinen's medical records from the hospital to see if blood was drawn during the course of treating him; sources said it was not.

State police investigators returned to Spring and West streets Wednesday to take more measurements. The state's reconstruction team was at the scene shortly before midnight this past Friday, which was the time that the accident occurred a week earlier.

Dang's brother, Ha Tran, said Dang was supposed to get a ride home from his parents or his friend's mother, but decided to ride his bicycle because he was going to need it the next day.

Michael Koistinen, who is on paid administrative leave, was traveling west on Spring Street, coming over a small hill leading into the intersection where the crash occurred. There is a 35 mph speed limit sign nearby, as well as a sign that a blind child lives nearby on Spring Street, within a quarter-mile of the accident site.

Fortunately this fiasco and cover-up was not swept under the rug.

Sgt. Robert Koistinen, who is awaiting trial on charges that he interfered with the investigation of a fatal crash involving his son, will receive $48,815 in disability payments for heart and hypertension ailments..............poor baby...........son, had been rejected by five PDs previous to this hire. He has been on paid administrative leave since the fatal crash, while parents buried their child.

20 posted on 02/23/2012 3:44:59 PM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: chesley

Dude, you have issues. Seek help. or something.


21 posted on 02/23/2012 3:54:56 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: patton

U have issues?? Dude, are you serious? Look in the mirror.


22 posted on 02/24/2012 5:47:11 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: patton

U have issues?? Dude, are you serious? Look in the mirror.


23 posted on 02/24/2012 5:47:19 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: patton

On further reflection I think I should ask: Can you be a little more specific? What issues do you think that I have that I need help for?

Opposition to affirmative action? Lots of people need help then.

Acknowledgment of the fact that less ability means less competence?

making the observation that the less competent are sometimes likely to take shortcuts. I don’t see that as a problem.

So what is my “problem” that I need help with.


24 posted on 02/24/2012 7:41:44 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: driftdiver

I don’t know where you get that idea. Obviously, he handled this incompetently, and corruptly.

I have no idea how competent he would be if he wasn’t corrupt, and neither do you.

My point was against affirmative action only. Go back and re-read what I said. I have no problem with competent people, be they minorities, or otherwise.

I do have a problem with people receiving preferences based on their race, sex, orientation, or other such. Obviously, you do not.


25 posted on 02/24/2012 7:54:12 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: chesley

You jumped in with race as a reason for cop miconduct - and the cops were not, from the article, members of a “protected minority.”

There are exactly two human races extant - homo sapiens sapiens, and homo sapiens neanderthalus - and the jury is still out on “two.” Many believe that we are the same race.

“Hier in Bayern gibts kein rascenhass, Du Saupreauss, Du.”


26 posted on 02/24/2012 7:58:36 AM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: chesley

My point is that affirmative action has no place in the discussion of this criminal incident.


27 posted on 02/24/2012 8:01:13 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: patton
Actually, I was responding to another poster about affirmative action.

And I said, I didn't know if it had any bearing (I hadn't bothered, at that time to look at the pictures of the guilty parties). Frankly, I don't know how I could have been more clear.

I was talking about affirmative action in response to the statement that it contributed to these types of actions. And I think that it probably does.

But it doesn't have to, and these incidents can happen with non-aa action personnel.

Personally, I see nothing wrong with a seque from the specific to the general; subjects can change in the course of a conversation. But perhaps you do.

Would you care to translate that last comment.

28 posted on 02/24/2012 8:09:22 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: driftdiver

Perhaps not.

Nevertheless, affirmative action is an evil that must be eradicated.

And, who knows how it may contribute negatively to the culture of that police force.

Anyway, I didn’t bring the subject up in the first place. I was responding to another poster.


29 posted on 02/24/2012 8:12:05 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: patton

One other question, where exactly is “homo sapiens neanderthalus” extant?

And if we are including extinct species, should old homo erectius get a nod?


30 posted on 02/24/2012 8:15:25 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: chesley

“Here in Bavaria, we have no racial hatred, you stupid PIG (Prussian)”

Oh, the irony. It works on so many levels...

“neanderthal” is a german word, meaning “dead dude from the next valley over.”

Watch out when you get xenophobic - you might get your wish.


31 posted on 02/24/2012 8:21:49 AM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: chesley

“One other question, where exactly is “homo sapiens neanderthalus” extant?”

Right here - all around you. Ever met a redhead?


32 posted on 02/24/2012 8:24:38 AM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: patton

My understanding, which is admittedly limited, is that the genes that cause red-headedness in modern man, and those that caused it in neaderthal, are two differnet gene complexes.

Still, assuming they’re not, modern red-heads can freely interbreed, with fertile offspring, with non-redheads. Which pretty much definitely says they are all the same species. God bless redheads.


33 posted on 02/24/2012 8:58:08 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: patton

Thank you for the translation.

I can only state that being against affirmative action certainly does not, in and of itself, qualify one as a racist. On the other hand, as affirmative action is race-conscious, and race-based, and disadvantages one base solely on skin color, does so qualify a supporter.

This does not, however, in and of itself, mean that the racism is based on either hatred or malice, although it certainly can be.

Nor does either position equate with xenophobia.


34 posted on 02/24/2012 9:18:26 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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