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Santorum Endorsed Specter’s Presidential Bid (1996)
The National Review ^ | February 11, 2012 | Katrina Trinko

Posted on 02/23/2012 11:35:15 PM PST by true believer forever

And as for the pro-abortion-rights presidential candidate Santorum endorsed, when Specter launched a long-shot bid for president in 1995, Santorum — his fellow Pennsylvanian — was one of his few high-profile endorsements.

For Specter, who later became a Democrat, his pro-abortion-rights position was a centerpiece of his campaign. Specter believed that anti-abortion activists were a “fringe” group hijacking the Republican party.

“There are clearly more Republicans who are pro-choice,” Specter told Newsday’s Susan Page. “Up until now, I am the only person willing to take on the fringe.” After Specter dropped out of the race, he led an ill-fated movement to change the anti-abortion provision in the Republican party platform.

Santorum was effectively returning a favor by endorsing Specter despite his aggressive pro-abortion-rights views. Specter had supported Santorum’s 1994 Senate campaign.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


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Santorum, team player, returns another favor.
1 posted on 02/23/2012 11:35:17 PM PST by true believer forever
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To: true believer forever

Santorum’s in big ol trouble


2 posted on 02/23/2012 11:37:54 PM PST by Downinthedixie (ABO)
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To: true believer forever
I keep seeing more pro-Romney stuff. Does he have paid staff on here now?
3 posted on 02/23/2012 11:38:18 PM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: true believer forever

Specter is a devil.


4 posted on 02/23/2012 11:41:27 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Cometh the hour, cometh the man. NEWT GINGRICH 2012)
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To: throwback

I keep seeing documented evidence that Santorum is just another politician, and not the Messiah that his supporters think he is... whoever brings the news, Romney supporters or otherwise... Santorum has commenced digging his hole...


5 posted on 02/23/2012 11:41:33 PM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I don’t know about that, but if true, it means that Santorum endorsed “a devil” in 1996 to return a political favor. Not exactly the principled conservatism Santorum keeps saying he is all about...


6 posted on 02/23/2012 11:43:11 PM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: true believer forever

Santorum was effectively returning a favor by endorsing Specter despite his aggressive pro-abortion-rights views. Specter had supported Santorum’s 1994 Senate campaign.
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Santorum didn’t become pro-life until 88? 89? I believe he said. I guess he didn’t become strongly pro-life until even later?


7 posted on 02/23/2012 11:43:55 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Downinthedixie
Santorum’s in big ol trouble.

Yep, Big Ol' Trouble. And he's commenced digging his big ol' hole.

8 posted on 02/23/2012 11:45:03 PM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: Irenic
Santorum didn’t become pro-life until 88? 89? I believe he said. I guess he didn’t become strongly pro-life until even later?

I think you could be moderately pro-life and have difficulty supporting a candidate, like Specter, who "believed that anti-abortion activists were a “fringe” group hijacking the Republican party."

9 posted on 02/23/2012 11:48:52 PM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: true believer forever
Team playing Santorum also team played to ‘kill’ the Clinton impeachment proceedings. NO live witnesses, or NO evidence...

Now this big family guy did NOT give a rat's behind to set the example to the American public what was and was NOT acceptable in an American president.... Guess he was a ‘Scottish law’ tenant, whatever that really means.

NO I do not like Santorum and have NOT since he Spectored US into a cheap imitation impeachment proceeding. I do not trust him to know right from wrong.

10 posted on 02/23/2012 11:51:08 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: true believer forever

Appearances being what they are, it seems politics and party are what is most important to Santorum.


11 posted on 02/23/2012 11:53:03 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Just mythoughts
Team playing Santorum also team played to ‘kill’ the Clinton impeachment proceedings. NO live witnesses, or NO evidence... Now this big family guy did NOT give a rat's behind to set the example to the American public what was and was NOT acceptable in an American president.... Guess he was a ‘Scottish law’ tenant, whatever that really means. NO I do not like Santorum and have NOT since he Spectored US into a cheap imitation impeachment proceeding. I do not trust him to know right from wrong.

Having said all that above, his supporters are doing the same thing barack's voters did in 2008, seeing Santorum as a Messiah... and the reality is, he isn't...

12 posted on 02/23/2012 11:56:14 PM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: Irenic
Appearances being what they are, it seems politics and party are what is most important to Santorum. What happens when "The Team" is Boehner and McConnell... if Santorum is Prez, will he take one for them, too? I think what you're saying is, once a team player, always a team player..
13 posted on 02/24/2012 12:00:13 AM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: true believer forever

Yeah. I would say that Newt would make more of a real difference than Santorum would.

Priority #1 remains nominating someone who isn’t Romney.


14 posted on 02/24/2012 12:00:33 AM PST by DNA.2012
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To: DNA.2012
Newt buddys the choice



15 posted on 02/24/2012 12:05:37 AM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: true believer forever
Santorum Defends His Undefensable Support for Specter-The American View

"...in “Crisis” magazine, Santorum defended and explained his support for Specter as the “right” decision."

"Santorum says he supported Specter “because it will further the causes in which I believe and because it’s in the best interest of my state.” He says Specter has a better chance of beating his Democrat opponent whereas Toomey “would have had a much tougher race.” He says President Bush agreed that Specter was a stronger candidate."

"Santorum says that as a “Republican leader” he has a responsibility to support incumbent senators generally, and Specter specifically. Reelecting Specter, he says, improves the chances of the GOP keeping control of the Senate." Santorum also says that “clearly a pro-life Republican majority that includes Senator Specter” is better than Specter’s totally pro-choice Democrat opponent. Santorum includes Specter in the Senate’s “pro-life” GOP majority...And he says this because Specter --- who Santorum also refers to as “pro-choice” --- voted for a ban on partial-birth abortion and fetal-homicide bills."

"Santorum helping the Republican “team” .."

16 posted on 02/24/2012 12:10:18 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: true believer forever
Wow. What a shocker. A first term Senator endorsed the Senior Senator from his own state who was in his party that helped him get elected in '94. A real scandal. Santorum should have come out and really rallied behind the genuine Conservative stalwart we ran that year. Bob Dole made Reagan look like a Commie Pinko didn't he?


17 posted on 02/24/2012 12:11:05 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: true believer forever
Having said all that above, his supporters are doing the same thing barack's voters did in 2008, seeing Santorum as a Messiah... and the reality is, he isn't...

Oh yes they are. I have even see some prophecy that Santorum was picked by God Himself. Course I have not yet seen that Chapter and verse... Guess it comes from some deep dark secret place requiring a 'faith' that it is a truth.

God even forewarned through Isaiah 3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.

18 posted on 02/24/2012 12:11:37 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: true believer forever

And?


19 posted on 02/24/2012 12:14:14 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Downinthedixie

Make the case fer yer guy


20 posted on 02/24/2012 12:16:03 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Wow. Aren’t Sanctimonium’s supporters supposed to be the only true, principled conservatives backing the only true principled conservative, who isn’t afraid to stand up for his principles when everybody else fails, who can be counted on to do the right thing, no matter. The consistent principled conservatives?

I have no problem with politics as usual, that’s what they are - politics as usual. Sanctimonium wants everyone to believe he is the Anointed One (”God called me to do this, as he has said). His supporters are doing the same thing barack’s supporters did in 2008 - they think he’s the Messiah, and he isn’t... he’s just another politician.

What’s really interesting to me is how his supporters make the same old arguments made by the same old politicians since evermore when defending his positions or activity... and tear others down for their faults and shortcomings... POLITICS AS USUAL...


21 posted on 02/24/2012 12:31:37 AM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: Downinthedixie

Reagan was a democrat.
That meant we never should have voted for him because he had a “D” after his name?


22 posted on 02/24/2012 12:36:12 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Jim DeMint: “I was there when we had the numbers, and we didn’t have the principles.” Regarding his opposition to Mike Castle, DE Rino.


23 posted on 02/24/2012 12:37:37 AM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: true believer forever

Reagan said “Never speak ill of a fellow Republican”. All these guys are just making Obamas next TV spot. Time to end these demolition derbies call debates and start answering questions on how they would handle dismantling Obamas regime.
As for principled polictian, what about Newt sucking up tp Pelosi....hmmmmmmmmmm.


24 posted on 02/24/2012 12:42:36 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

He’s the one who insisted he was a pure little dove. He explained endorsing Specter because he weighed the judge appointments on a higher level than anything else. How does he justify endorsing Specter for President to? Does he want a pro-abortion President?


25 posted on 02/24/2012 12:44:36 AM PST by Apollo5600
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To: Apollo5600

The next thing you’ll be saying is that Santorum sucked up to and took money from Freddy Mac, one of the major causes for the meltdown and election of Obama. It’s a good thing I’ve already cast my vote for Santorum.


26 posted on 02/24/2012 12:49:23 AM PST by Ingtar ("But it is hard to maintain an aura of invincibility after you have been vinced..." Sowell)
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To: throwback

Now that Romney’s back is to the wall, we get this dumped on us.

I have posted this info about Santorum countless times, but now its big news.

Santorum must be destroyed so Romney can win next Tuesday.

But I will say that I hope Rick wins so Romney can fall and Newt can rise.

I support Newt over Rick partly because of Santorum’s “team player” past.


27 posted on 02/24/2012 12:54:31 AM PST by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: Yorlik803
Reagan said “Never speak ill of a fellow Republican”. All these guys are just making Obamas next TV spot. Time to end these demolition derbies call debates and start answering questions on how they would handle dismantling Obamas regime.

Funny, I don't remember any Santorum supporters calling for the debates to end when Santorum had his one good debate. OTOH, when Newt had a bad debate, I don't recall him whining or calling the debates demolition derbies. You decide what that means...

..."start answering questions on how they would handle dismantling Obamas regime."

Newt's already answered your question:

Newt buddys the choice



28 posted on 02/24/2012 12:54:59 AM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: Yorlik803
Reagan said “Never speak ill of a fellow Republican”. All these guys are just making Obamas next TV spot. Time to end these demolition derbies call debates and start answering questions on how they would handle dismantling Obamas regime.

As for principled polictian, what about Newt sucking up tp Pelosi....hmmmmmmmmmm.

s n i c k e r.... So you are NOT a doer of Reagan just a quoter of him?

29 posted on 02/24/2012 12:55:34 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: true believer forever

Yeah.

This stuff wouldn’t be as big of a deal if Santorum hadn’t been such a prig and presented himself as Mr. Sanctimonious. This is now his grave and he will lay in it.


30 posted on 02/24/2012 12:58:53 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: true believer forever

Newt Gingrich is lucky on this endorsement business, since apparently he never endorses anybody but himself.


31 posted on 02/24/2012 1:00:27 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Newt Gingrich is lucky on this endorsement business, since apparently he never endorses anybody but himself.

I really love when the primary colors (name of a book) get unmasked in the dead of the night. Your post is probably the most instructive in what the voters that pay attention know about Newt.... HE is not nor ever was a PROUD GOP-e 'insider'!!!!!

32 posted on 02/24/2012 1:03:21 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

And Dede Scozzafava. Or are we allowed to mention that?


33 posted on 02/24/2012 1:03:38 AM PST by Keyes2000mt (Conservative Podcast: The Truth and Hope (http://www.truthandhope.2truth.com))
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Actually, that is not accurate. Keeping it only to the primary season, Newt has said on the debate stage, that Santorum was out there in front on Iran, and leading the way on that issue, when people seldom give him (RS) credit for that. He said good things about Perry, while Perry was still running, and I am sure there are others...

Rick Santorum is too insecure to say anything nice or laudatory about any of his opponents... and has taken quite a few immature nasty shots at Newt, who was Santorum’s mentor...

As far as Newt endorsing himself, how many times (honestly) have you heard Santorum say, “I’m the only candidate who... fill in the blank”...? Honestly? Then, of course, when God Himself has called you to run, as Santorum has told his supporters, there’s no need to endorse yourself. much.


34 posted on 02/24/2012 1:07:24 AM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: Keyes2000mt
And Dede Scozzafava. Or are we allowed to mention that?

But of course, climb upon a mountain and shout it from the mountain tops. Newt is more human than most, but, unlike the most, he admits when he is WRONG. The most uncommon make up of most politicians is to never admit they are wrong. Remember politics is a team sport and that gives each individual player a 'big time' excuse for what a politician votes.

Is this what is meant by 'Scottish law'? Never having to say you are WRONG???? Because everybody is doing it????

35 posted on 02/24/2012 1:09:39 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts

I think I might disagree. Charles is a very consistent Santorum supporter, and says nasty things about Newt morning, noon or night. I have been the recipient of many of his such posts - he is a little more prolific late at night, though, you are right about that.


36 posted on 02/24/2012 1:10:47 AM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: true believer forever; CharlesWayneCT
I think I might disagree. Charles is a very consistent Santorum supporter, and says nasty things about Newt morning, noon or night. I have been the recipient of many of his such posts - he is a little more prolific late at night, though, you are right about that.

Well, I will include Charlie in my response. 'You know', rules and all.

I actually believe Charlie is a closet Romney supporter, IF MY MEMORY serves me from last election. Oh, Charlie, I will be more than happy to retraction my memory recall IF I am WRONG.

37 posted on 02/24/2012 1:15:02 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: true believer forever

Another pro-Romney article from NR.


38 posted on 02/24/2012 1:17:34 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: true believer forever

Gingrich had no trouble endorsing Dede Scozzafosa, who was a pro-abortion advocate. And that wasn’t in 1996, it was in 2009, against a solid conservative, not against Bob Dole.

Of course, more than a few pro-lifers here at Free Republic had no trouble enthusiastically supportting Scott Brown for Senator either, even though he was pro-abortion.

And of course, Specter had no chance of winning the nomination in 1996. And Bob Dole, who was nominally pro-life, fought to water down the abortion platform plank, saying we should embrace pro-abortion republicans. And before the primary season started, he stopped supporting an abortion ban: “Senator Bob Dole’s statement on Sunday that he would no longer support an unconditional ban on abortion prompted a wave of anger today from the Republican right and escalated an already fierce ideological war in the party.”

Santorum was wrong to endorse Specter, both in 1995 for a hopeless presidential run, and in 2004, although that’s easier seen in retrospect. But applying a 2011 sensibility to decisions made in 1996 seems pointless — I mean, what is the actual argument here?

It can’t be that Santorum secretly is pro-abortion — he is the strongest pro-life candidate we have. It can’t be that we are worried he’ll appoint pro-abortion judges, or have pro-abortion positions, that would be absurd.

It can’t even be that, as President, he’ll somehow use his position to endorse people we wouldn’t support, because the reason for his endorsement of Specter in both cases is clearly a unique situation, where he was politically beholden, and returned a political favor, which in 1995 was meaningless as Specter was never going to win the presidency.

Senator DeMint actually endorsed Romney in 2008, so it is clear that good men make bad decisions (Gingrich-Scozzafoza, Palin-McCain, O’Donnell/Ayotte/Haley-Romney, and Perry-Giuliani are more examples).

So I think many of us have problems with this line of attack not for the actual charge (as I said, I think he made a mistake in both cases), but because of the unspoken false implications of the charge.


39 posted on 02/24/2012 1:21:47 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
Another pro-Romney article from NR.

I posted the article because it has some pertinent FACTS about Santorum, which I believe people need to be aware of; there have been hundreds of anti-Newt articles posted here by Santorum supporters, so I guess that would make them pro-Romney, then, by your standards... You Santorum supporters need to up your response quality...

40 posted on 02/24/2012 1:23:23 AM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Just wanted to point out, for those who did not know, that the “defense” in that comment was from back when he did the endorsement, not recent.


41 posted on 02/24/2012 1:24:10 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: true believer forever

It was a joke. I remember him endorsing DeDe.

On the other hand, so far as I can ascertain, he endorsed NOBODY in the critical 2008 presidential election, where there were several conservative candidates who might have benefited from an endorsement by the bearer of the Ronald Reagan Torch.


42 posted on 02/24/2012 1:25:50 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: true believer forever

I have been saying these debates are self destructive since the third one. They are like firemen squirting water on other firmen instead of on the fire. And they get tiresome.
I will support anyone who gets the nod{Including Mitt. After voting for McCain a person can do any distastful thing}.
The idea ticket would be Newt/Rick. they would balance out just right.But I am afraid both their egos would never allow it.


43 posted on 02/24/2012 1:30:06 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: true believer forever

Actually, I’m not a Santorum supporter. I do defend him against attacks I think are silly. And I don’t hate Newt — I almost threw my support to him, in the day after Perry was thrown off the Virginia ballot, but before Gingrich was.

My primary argument against Gingrich is that I don’t think he could win an election. My secondary argument is that he’s not as conservative as his strong supporters have convinced themselves recently, nor does he compare as favorably to Santorum as they try.

If everybody here supported Santorum, and everybody was attacking Gingrich non-stop, I’d probably be doing a lot more defending of Gingrich. I think there’s probably even a post somewhere in this site where I defended Gingrich at the time he endorsed Dede — because at that time virtually ever freeper was denouncing him as a RINO establishment hack.

I’m very consistant on the position of attacking candidates for prior endorsements. I defended Palin many times against attacks for her endorsements as well, both McCain and her california endorsement against the most conservative primary candidates there.


44 posted on 02/24/2012 1:32:16 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Just mythoughts

Well, if I ever attain office{but since there are pictures of me in a German WW2 uniform and I said the “N” word more than a few times. Not to mention more than a few times I got drunk and told very off-color but very funny jokes}My chances of ever being elected to office on the GOP ticket is very slim.
But rest assured if I ever do get elected, I will support fellow Republicans. No matter how smelly or snake like they are.


45 posted on 02/24/2012 1:35:44 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I mean, what is the actual argument here The actual argument here, as I see it, is that Rick Santorum presents himself as the principled consistent conservative, who stands up for principle, no matter what, when others fail to do so... who has never been afraid to take the hard stands that others haven't.. he is the only candidate who... And when someone bills themself as "called by God" - then that is sort of applying an imprimatur that bespeaks a sort of nobility and honesty above all others in the race... he set the standard himself for himself... and no one should complain when others hold him to it.. As for Newt, he's never claimed to be anything more than a sinner being saved by grace, when it comes to Godly endorsements... and his supporters have a real good idea of who he is... warts and all and all and all.. Santorum is the one who paints himself as well beyond politics as usual... We don't present him as a some sort of saint.. We offer him to America precisely because we think he is The Bastard who is tough enough, stubborn enough, profoundly enough prepared to make the changes needed to reach into and around this country and pull it back from the brink starting Day One. Santorum's supporters are doing exactly what barack's supporters did in 2008, they look at Santorum as some sort of Messiah, with his encouragement... and they are making the same mistake the dems voters did in 2008... This is my reasonableness post in response to your reasonable post, which was very lovely. I am actually going to read it again... because there are some facts in there I want to make sure i remember. www.newt.org/donate ;) Do it. You'll feel better.
46 posted on 02/24/2012 1:36:53 AM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: Just mythoughts

I was never a closet Romney supporter. In the last election, I was open about all the people I supported, and that included Romney. Eventually he was the only one left I supported, as I was never a supporter of McCain, Giuliani, or Huckabee (although I’m sure I defended McCain against attacks I thought were unsupported).

As for this election, I still haven’t picked a candidate, but I’ve in turn defended Bachmann, Perry, and Santorum. I never liked Cain as a presidential pick, and Gingrich wasn’t on my list, but that was mostly because I decided to start with candidates who could get at least a little support here at FR, and back when this started Gingrich was NOT one of those candidates.


47 posted on 02/24/2012 1:41:40 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
It was a joke. Oh, okay. Sorry, then. I can be very obtuse at 4 a.m. Ha. Ha.
48 posted on 02/24/2012 1:43:40 AM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Another OLD pro-Romney article from NR that was already posted previously here and discussed at length.

But it was apparently time for another late-night dump of anti-Santorum articles, and since they don’t have a slew of new polling data yet, we have to expect some recycling.


49 posted on 02/24/2012 1:45:10 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Yorlik803
Well, if I ever attain office{but since there are pictures of me in a German WW2 uniform and I said the “N” word more than a few times. Not to mention more than a few times I got drunk and told very off-color but very funny jokes}My chances of ever being elected to office on the GOP ticket is very slim. But rest assured if I ever do get elected, I will support fellow Republicans. No matter how smelly or snake like they are.

A snake is a snake is a snake!!!!! AND if a Republican is a snake then I will be required to stand on my convictions of principles rather than slither down into their pit.

The Jon Stewart media is a guide in how the powers that be both parties, treat any particular Republican after elections.... Old Lord McCain, who demanded US to give power over to the Jon Stewart media to pick US candidates. He sure expected them to give to him in return. They mocked and jeered and sneered at him by ridiculing Sarah Palin into a hoped for personal bankruptcy and political oblivion.

Look where all this holding our noses and accepting smelly snakes got US. Obamination!!!!!

50 posted on 02/24/2012 1:46:02 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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