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Pink Floyd's Roger Waters says Britain should return Falklands to Argentina
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 3:30PM GMT 29 Feb 2012 | Barney Henderson

Posted on 02/29/2012 7:08:40 PM PST by Olog-hai

Pink Floyd star Roger Waters has reportedly stated that Britain should return the Falkland Islands, saying "Las Malvinas belong to Argentina".

In an interview with Chilean television, Waters, who is on tour in South America, allegedly said he was "as ashamed as I possibly could be of our colonial past ... When we were out raping and plundering and stealing".

The reported comments came as Argentina's industry minister called for all British imports to be banned as tensions escalate between the two countries ahead of the 30th anniversary of the Falklands conflict.

A journalist for the Chilean TVN state channel claimed Waters had made the comments during an exclusive interview on Tuesday. Amaro Gómez-Pablos tweeted: "Roger Waters was categorical: Las Malvinas belong to Argentina."

In a later press conference in Chile, Waters was more cautious, stating: "Clearly there needs to be a solution to the problem of the varying claims [to the Falklands]—the claims are so convoluted and so old, going back as they do to the 17th century. It's not a simple situation. My view is that certainly it saved Margaret Thatcher's political career at the time at the cost of a great many Argentine and British lives, which disgusted me then and still does now. I was never a huge fan of Margaret Thatcher."

Pink Floyd's twelfth album, The Final Cut, was heavily influenced by the Falklands conflict, with several critical references to Baroness Thatcher. …

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Music/Entertainment; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: argentina; falklands; maggiethatcher; malvinas; pinkfloyd; rogerwaters; shutupandsing
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1 posted on 02/29/2012 7:08:50 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Shut up and sing, Roger.

Love your music, hate your air-headed politics.

2 posted on 02/29/2012 7:12:50 PM PST by Washi (Surviving the Zombie Apocalypse, one head-shot at a time.)
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To: Olog-hai

Just another ale-swilling surrender monkey.


3 posted on 02/29/2012 7:14:44 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Olog-hai

Aria, of Pacific Northwest USA, says leave what Margaret Thatcher fought for alone.

So why not...I figure I’m at least as intelligent as some rock band person.

But that said, what do the Falklands have that anyone wants?


4 posted on 02/29/2012 7:15:29 PM PST by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Olog-hai
Did Roger consult with the people that live on the islands?

Or is he just being imperial in a politically correct manner? It's pretty harsh to give your citizens to another country with a spotty history.

/johnny

5 posted on 02/29/2012 7:15:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Washi
Never mind that the Falklands were never taken from Argentina to begin with.

Now we know who the bad guy was when it comes to the break with Pink Floyd . . .
6 posted on 02/29/2012 7:16:44 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Washi

To me, Floyd was more about Gilmour and Rick Wright. I prefer Echoes over The Wall.


7 posted on 02/29/2012 7:17:10 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Aria

oil


8 posted on 02/29/2012 7:19:47 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Olog-hai

Yes - but what would Syd Barrett think about all this?


9 posted on 02/29/2012 7:21:05 PM PST by bagadonutz
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To: Olog-hai

Petula Clark, it’s your turn to tell us!


10 posted on 02/29/2012 7:24:32 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Washi
Shut up and sing, Roger.

Unfortunately the last time Roger Waters got on a kick about the Falklands we got the Final Cut and Pink Floyd broke up soon after

11 posted on 02/29/2012 7:26:25 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

The lunatic is on some grass.

Thanks Olog-hai.


12 posted on 02/29/2012 7:26:25 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: bagadonutz

As if those guys pretentious pseudo-art output hadn’t done enough damage! Feh!


13 posted on 02/29/2012 7:26:33 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Olog-hai

I love Pink Floyd’s music, but Waters has always struck me as one of those “artiste” types who is long on wind and short on brains. His solo stuff is so preachy it’s hard to listen to.


14 posted on 02/29/2012 7:28:09 PM PST by Wierzbowski
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To: Olog-hai

He don’t need no ejucayshun.


15 posted on 02/29/2012 7:30:06 PM PST by Always A Marine
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To: Olog-hai

“Waters, who is on tour in South America, allegedly said he was “as ashamed as I possibly could be of our colonial past ... When we were out raping and plundering and stealing”. “

If he’s pissed at this aspect of his country’s legacy he ought to be irate that the Italians have forgotten their history of the same that lasted for hundreds of years more than English colonialism and with far more brutality inflicted on the conquered.


16 posted on 02/29/2012 7:34:51 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Olog-hai

Always knew that.

I got to hand it to the rest of the band for putting up with his idiocy for such a very long time. I dont care how talented a lot of people think he is.


17 posted on 02/29/2012 7:39:00 PM PST by Delta 21 (Make your choice ! There are NO civilians.)
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To: Olog-hai

How can the UK “return” something to Argentina which never belonged to Argentina?


18 posted on 02/29/2012 7:39:53 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: mamelukesabre

and sheep


19 posted on 02/29/2012 7:42:03 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: Delta 21

While The Final Cut is my favorite PF album (don’t ask why, just accept that it is ;) Waters made a career of one thing. Daddy issues.

His entire lyrical output is over the loss of his father and little more than a cathartic exercise in whining to the world about it.

Some of it worked spectacularly, some didn’t, but Gilmore saved PF from a rapid descent into obscurity because without his Strat work, PF would be just a ‘pre-Emo’ Emo band.

And yes, I am donning the asbestos underwear for the fire about to come my way ;)


20 posted on 02/29/2012 7:55:06 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: Olog-hai

What’s a “Pink Floyd” .... some new kind of British QFP?


21 posted on 02/29/2012 7:58:34 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: Olog-hai

Residents of the Falkland Islands seem to disagree.


22 posted on 02/29/2012 8:00:24 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: dfwgator

I like all Pink Floyds music. I am a fanatic, but Roger is a lunatic liberal anti-semite idiot. And I love the wall but their earlier stuff like Meddle and Atom Heart mother were some of the most talented works by the band. And agree Gilmour and Wright were amazing. Roger is a wonderful showman but needs to SHET UP!


23 posted on 02/29/2012 8:03:52 PM PST by crazydad
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To: Olog-hai

Addled.


24 posted on 02/29/2012 8:11:20 PM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: Norm Lenhart

No flames from me. Hes still not over it.

Gilmore was probly tryin so hard to play his heart out he didnt notice what a douche Waters probly had always been.

I liked the Final Cut. Two Suns in the Sunset is cool.


25 posted on 02/29/2012 8:13:09 PM PST by Delta 21 (Make your choice ! There are NO civilians.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

No, no, no. The question is “Which ones Pink?”


26 posted on 02/29/2012 8:14:42 PM PST by Delta 21 (Make your choice ! There are NO civilians.)
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To: Olog-hai

And Roger’s, or any other artist’s opinion is relevant because...?


27 posted on 02/29/2012 8:28:47 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Let's roll on this gunwalking thing already! NRA <BCC><)
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To: Delta 21

An excellent song. My faves Are Gunner’s Dream and Paranoid Eyes. Of the two PA gets top shot. Then again I’m a sucker for concept albums. Nothing like a good story set to good music.

I am however surprised at how many people who hear 2 suns have no clue what he’s referring to. I mean it IS kinda obvious ;)


28 posted on 02/29/2012 8:33:09 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: JRandomFreeper

They have made it very clear that they want to be part of the UK, and do not want to leave and/or become citizens of other countries. The UK supports the Falklands very considerably economically with little (up to now) return benefit, because it is their responsibility to their fellow citizens.


29 posted on 02/29/2012 8:34:12 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: SunkenCiv

Funny that song is on my ipod right now.. Far Out!


30 posted on 02/29/2012 8:35:11 PM PST by crazydad
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To: SunkenCiv

Funny that song is on my ipod right now.. Far Out!


31 posted on 02/29/2012 8:35:20 PM PST by crazydad
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To: crazydad

I had some Floyd on vinyl when I was in my 20s, but my interest in them faded out like a bad fart.


32 posted on 02/29/2012 8:38:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Olog-hai

The Falklands were never part of Argentina to begin with. The Falklanders want to keep their UK passports and want nothing to do with Argentina. This was true before oil was discovered and is even more so now. If they stay with the UK and commercial oil production begins, the Falklands will be one of the richest places on earth, per capita. If they went with Argentina, the islanders would see nothing and they would be faced with a horde of Argentinian settlers whose purpose would be to demographically replace the Falklanders. Argentina used to be a decent place with a high standard of living. Unfortunately, it’s gone steadily down hill with a series of statist governments. Under the current administration, the president spends like crazy to assure her continued re-election and criminalizes the reporting of the actual inflation rate.

The reemergence of the Falklands ‘issue’ is about oil money. The Falklanders would never agree to be a part of Argentina and the UK has said it would not give up the islanders without their consent.


33 posted on 02/29/2012 8:41:45 PM PST by jimnm
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To: Olog-hai
I love it. Roger is in moral agony about colonialism, is he? Now let me see...colonialism is the disregard of a powerful country for the preferences and welfare of the inhabitants of a region in pursuit of the seizure of natural resources for the benefit of the more powerful country, is it not? Yes, actually, that's precisely what colonialism is.

And Waters is a proponent and an apologist for Argentinian colonialism. Argentina wants the oil and the land, and to hell with the inhabitants. And Waters is 100% behind them. Who's the colonialist now, Roger?

34 posted on 02/29/2012 8:54:50 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

It is wholly inappropriate of you to point that out or even publicly discuss this. Roger W is a loyal leftist and as such little things like critically thinking through a given issue is clearly not on the agenda...nor should it be!

Don’t you realize the man FEELS?!?!?!? HE FEELS!!!!

Evil right wingers, I swear. Why, you’re probably one of them damn Reagan/Thacher fans too....


35 posted on 02/29/2012 9:05:46 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: Norm Lenhart

You’re onto me. I’m (sob!) so ashamed... :-(


36 posted on 02/29/2012 9:07:36 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

Why would Roger support a country that harbored a bunch of Nazi War Criminals? Why not just say that the Falklands should be independent, instead of under any country, at the very least?


37 posted on 02/29/2012 9:07:49 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Billthedrill

It’s ok. In your shame, you have demonstrated you FEEL! as well and so can be forgiven ;)


38 posted on 02/29/2012 9:10:35 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: Olog-hai

I have to admit that I’m enjoying this, watching idiot actors and rock stars make fools of themselves talking about “colonialism” in the Falklands and that Britain should “give them back,” statements that identify HOW ****ING DUMBASS STUPID THESE PEOPLE ARE.

It’s like watching all of your enemies line up to stick their heads into airplane propellors because they have been talked into believing it will help the world. And, indeed, they are correct.


39 posted on 02/29/2012 9:10:35 PM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: crazydad

It was amazing seeing the video of Gilmour’s “On an Island” Tour, and seeing him and Wright doing Echoes in its’ entirety one final time.

The other members even admitted that it was Wright that kept PF together in the immediate aftermath of Sid’s departure. His “Paintbox” is still one of my all-time favorite PF songs.


40 posted on 02/29/2012 9:13:45 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: denydenydeny

I want to see them publicly questioned with the following...

“How many years do we go back for the ‘repatriation’ cutoff point? How many countries do we revert to their prior ownership? Is it not unfair to those below that cutoff and who determines it? Who feeds the billions of people displaced and where do they then go?”

Ait back, eat popcorn and record on video to win the Oscar for Best Comedy.


41 posted on 02/29/2012 9:15:21 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: Olog-hai

Water’s a delusional drug user, if you follow his politics. That the Falklands was never part of Argenina isn’t relevant. His hatred of Britain is.


42 posted on 02/29/2012 9:18:43 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew

It’s practically a cliche for lib musicians to hate their country and work that hatred into their music. Look at Rage Against the Machine, my favorite go-to dipsticks for these examples.

It ‘guarantees’ their place in ‘history’ under the ‘any press is good press’ philosophy. RATM is full-on anti-American/Communist in their lyrics and an icon of anarchists everywhere (cognitive dissonance aside), RW hates his British heritage, both profit handsomely from the very things they claim to ‘hate’, go against their stated philosophies and laugh all the way to the bank.


43 posted on 02/29/2012 9:31:42 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Oikophobia, hatred or fear of ones own culture, is the ersatz sophistication of the intellectually vapid and insecure. It is the equivalent of a teenager belittling his family and friends to look good for the cool crowd.


44 posted on 02/29/2012 9:47:21 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Olog-hai

Believing, “my country’s enemy is my friend”, is a terminal form of stupidity. See OWS.


45 posted on 02/29/2012 9:57:17 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: Olog-hai
I'm sure the families of the 255 Brits, Military and Civilian, killed in the Falklands War will be thrilled to know what this asshat is selling in Argentina.
46 posted on 02/29/2012 10:03:04 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (New Tagline under construction, please watch your step.)
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To: Olog-hai

Time to grow up and leave rock and roll with it’s heart of rebellion behind in the dust. I think people think it keeps them young, like the hoods of the 50s greased their hair back into their well into their 40s and 50s. It didn’t make them young, just a little pathetic.
Rock and roll has been nasty since it’s inception. The problem is it’s like bad cooking, when you are brought up on it you don’t know any better.


47 posted on 02/29/2012 11:08:34 PM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: qam1
"we got the Final Cut"

Very underappreciated album... It's a good one.
48 posted on 03/01/2012 6:03:01 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Norm Lenhart
"Waters made a career of one thing. Daddy issues."

He actually sang about two subjects. Daddy and Syd Barrett. See the album Wish You Were Here....

Thing is, he may have been a talented guitar player, but when he checked out into the asylum and his buddy David Gilmour got into the band is when Pink Floyd got good.
49 posted on 03/01/2012 6:21:17 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: denydenydeny

One wonder in which language Mr. Waters delivered his anti-colonial diatribe; certainly not English or Spanish.


50 posted on 03/01/2012 6:31:18 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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