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Rise of the Extreme iPhone-Killer Super-Phones!
Datamation ^ | 29 February 2012 | Mike Elgan

Posted on 03/01/2012 8:01:59 AM PST by ShadowAce

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1 posted on 03/01/2012 8:02:02 AM PST by ShadowAce
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2 posted on 03/01/2012 8:03:37 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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3 posted on 03/01/2012 8:04:41 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Ah yes, time for the next crop of “xxxxx phones will beat the iPhone”. And like the other competitors they will fall in the iPhones shadow. People like the iPhone because it’s simple, thin and easy to use. When you get a iphone it comes with 5-6 apps and you buy the rest. Throwing numerous gadgets onto a phone won’t persuade users to use your phone.


4 posted on 03/01/2012 8:09:01 AM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: ShadowAce

I wonder what the battery life on the Galaxy Beam is going to be during a presentation?


5 posted on 03/01/2012 8:09:01 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Paul Tsongas of 2012.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Battery life was my first thought as well.


6 posted on 03/01/2012 8:10:55 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Who needs a 41 megapixel camera?
Who needs a projector built in their phone?

The market for these so called iphone killers will be small.


7 posted on 03/01/2012 8:13:39 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Dr. Sivana

Not very long...


8 posted on 03/01/2012 8:15:03 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: ShadowAce
Wait, a 41-megapixel camera phone? Come on! That’s almost twice as many megapixels as the highly coveted (and uber expensive) Canon EOS 5D Mark II camera used by professional photographers and even blockbuster Hollywood movie makers.

You could have 100 zillion gabillion pixels and it won't make a good photo if you don't have optics good enough to take a shot that's any better at that resolution. How are they going to fit (and pay for) a lens of sufficient quality in a cell phone to make 41 megapixels any better than 6-8MP?? Typical geek think -- improving the specs on the digital electronic stuff will somehow make a better product without thinking about the mechanical, real-world, meat-space parts of the equation.

9 posted on 03/01/2012 8:16:46 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ShadowAce

The battery is rated at 2000 mAh which gives a lot of hours if you are not using the projector, but then I’m not sure that the projector would be feasible for other than on the spot, short presentations.


10 posted on 03/01/2012 8:20:01 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Still Thinking

Perhaps, but I’m thinking that if the electronics are capable, the mechanics will follow.


11 posted on 03/01/2012 8:20:10 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Some people will buy a particular phone for a particular gadget, the products will fill a niche.

My particular issue is, as I get older, I have a hard time reading from a little screen. One of those phones with a 5” screen is looking pretty good to me.


12 posted on 03/01/2012 8:20:39 AM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: ShadowAce

I don’t know, unless they’ve made some serious cost and quality advances in lens-making. Maybe.


13 posted on 03/01/2012 8:21:49 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: tennmountainman

I like the ASUS Pad Phone concept, because I will be able to use one Wireless Data plan for all of my devices. Right now, I do not have Wireless Data on my tablet or laptop, because there is a separate charge for each account, which is far more expenses than the devices, over time.


14 posted on 03/01/2012 8:21:52 AM PST by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: ShadowAce

What none of these phones have is iOS. I don’t trust any device that requires a Google account for optimum use. I would consider a RIM Playbook if they added 3G and a no contract phone deal for a modest surcharge. HP’s Web OS coulda been a player. But no Android for me.


15 posted on 03/01/2012 8:21:52 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Paul Tsongas of 2012.)
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To: tennmountainman

Why does anyone need all of the bells, whistles, and apps on an iPhone? What bright, shiny new and overpriced features will the next iPhone or iPad3 have?


16 posted on 03/01/2012 8:25:43 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: ShadowAce

bleeech.....sometimes too much is just too much


17 posted on 03/01/2012 8:26:33 AM PST by Nifster
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
People like the iPhone because it’s simple, thin and easy to use

Well, I have a Samsung Galaxy which has been good. Got a hold of a friend's iPhone and found it anything but easy compared to the Droid OS. Smaller screen, more searching through menus. Really couldn't see why anyone would pick that phone other than name recognition.

18 posted on 03/01/2012 8:31:25 AM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Barbarian Terrorist Hobbit Son-of-a-Bitch!)
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To: RJS1950

The kind of overpriced features that will make millions of people want to have one.


19 posted on 03/01/2012 8:31:53 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Still Thinking
You could have 100 zillion gabillion pixels and it won't make a good photo if you don't have optics good enough to take a shot that's any better at that resolution.

Exactly. After a threshold, the quality and size of the lens the dominant factor in picture quality.

20 posted on 03/01/2012 8:37:05 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: RJS1950

I like the projector; I’ll let the early adopters pay for the R&D because you can be sure that this will lead to a new generation of small, cheap projectors that could make big-screen TVs obsolete.


21 posted on 03/01/2012 8:42:08 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: Haiku Guy

Most smartphones can be tethered to a PC. My Samsung Galaxy can be tethered via USB or can also function as a mobile wifi hotspot. That’s how I stayed online last month after I moved and was waiting for my new internet connection to be activated. Not as fast as cable or DSL but it did the job.


22 posted on 03/01/2012 8:45:52 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: PapaBear3625

My 14MP Nikon digital takes better pictures than my (surprisingly good) 8MP Android, but it has a Nikor glass lens that’s probably 10 times the diameter and thickness of the one in the phone. To take a photo worthy of 41MP, imagine the lens you’re going to need, and the percentage increase in size and/or cost (some tradeoff between the two, but at levels of both I can’t see how they could make work in a cell phone).

41MP may be twice the bandwidth of professional cameras or whatever, but I bet the lens alone on those cameras costs about 20 cell phones worth.


23 posted on 03/01/2012 8:49:03 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ShadowAce

One question for all of these phones ... how’s the battery life?


24 posted on 03/01/2012 8:49:16 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Dr. Sivana; All
What none of these phones have is iOS. I don’t trust any device that requires a Google account for optimum use. I would consider a RIM Playbook if they added 3G and a no contract phone deal for a modest surcharge. HP’s Web OS coulda been a player. But no Android for me.

Then take a look at this: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android

Unbuntu Linux will be installed along side of Android on a phone that can also be connected to a keyboard and screen. Carry a complete desktop operating system in your pocket.

25 posted on 03/01/2012 8:50:05 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: tennmountainman

Those kinds of features won’t guarantee anyone will make millions, success takes talents that utilize what is available and does not rely on flashy new apps make things happen.

Most of those who make millions on the new iPhone or iPad will be the primary stockholders who know that right now, flash and glitter sells.


26 posted on 03/01/2012 8:53:54 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

I never understood the appeal of smartphones until my carrier gave me a free Galaxy when my contract came up for renewal, but I was hooked on it after a day. Best free apps and websites:

Google Sky Map: Uses accelerometer and GPS, hold it over your head and all stars, planets and constellations are labelled, also has a search feature to home in on an object.

nextbus.com: Gives an ETA of buses enroute to the nearest stops, updated in real time, for transit services that track their vehicles with GPS. Works in most major cities.

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/todays-paper/index.html: Arguably the best newspaper in the world, all articles from the print edition are posted online six days per week. I find reading on my mobile device is a lot more comfortable than using my PC.


27 posted on 03/01/2012 8:57:00 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: Haiku Guy

Yup. Verizon won’t let me tether my smartphone to a tablet without paying a $20 monthly fee. I mainly want it so the kids can watch Netflix on long rides.


28 posted on 03/01/2012 8:58:41 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: TexasRepublic

29 posted on 03/01/2012 9:02:23 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
iPhone is only the best seller because of the Apple brand. I agree that they were the first to bring many revolutionary products to the masses but if they don’t stay ahead with actual performance, the brand will die.

I had the iPhone 4 for over a year but wanted to upgrade to 4G internet. I liked the phone but wanted faster data transfer capability for work. I thought the 4S had to have it, but no. Then I compared it to the Driod Razr 4G. It was no contest and blew away iPhone in every single category.

I got the Razr. It is thinner, much much faster, longest battery life in the industry, feels more solid and has a much bigger screen. I thought it was just as easy to use and was ready to go as soon as I charged it. If you can read, you can use it. I never asked for help or opened a manual. Yes, it came with a few apps that I would never use but I uninstalled them in less than one minute.

Also, it is far easier to develop your own software for Android and you don’t have to submit it to apple for approval.

30 posted on 03/01/2012 9:02:35 AM PST by varyouga
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Yup. Verizon won’t let me tether my smartphone to a tablet without paying a $20 monthly fee. I mainly want it so the kids can watch Netflix on long rides.

I have a Verizon "Grandfathered" Unlimited Data plan, and I received a message last month informing me that I was in the top 5% of data users, and they were going to start throttling my download rate. So much for unlimited...

It was Netflix. It works great, until they catch up with you.

31 posted on 03/01/2012 9:04:13 AM PST by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Squawk 8888

Yes.

That is a SPECTACULAR application, featuring an incredible marriage of technologies (actually we use a similar program on the iPAD-much better than the smaller phone screen). Took it on our trip to Tahiti to navigate the unfamiliar southern hemisphere skies.

So is the National Post readable for rock-ribbed conservatives, or am I going to have my usual blood pressure spike when reading typical journalistic output?


32 posted on 03/01/2012 9:11:45 AM PST by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: Haiku Guy

-——It was Netflix. It works great, until they catch up with you-——

LOL. Ok, I admit it, sometimes I’m stuck in the car waiting for my wife and daughters to emerge from tjmaxx...


33 posted on 03/01/2012 9:12:31 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: ShadowAce

So, next year’s mobile devices are better than last year’s iPhones?

OK.


34 posted on 03/01/2012 9:24:37 AM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: ShadowAce

41 megapixels is pretty cool, but what about the lens? Giving a camera 41 megapixels without a big quality lens to let in the light and capture a distortion free image, is akin to putting an expensive sports car engine into a Smart Car.


35 posted on 03/01/2012 9:25:04 AM PST by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
People like the iPhone because it’s simple, thin and easy to use.

Apple's also done the smart thing by refusing to let carriers install their own overlays, ads and garbage apps on the iPhone. Google does Android a disservice by letting carriers infest excellent Android phones with crap-ware, degrading and sometimes ruining the end-user experience.
36 posted on 03/01/2012 9:33:38 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Drawsing

The article discussed some specially made Zeiss lens for it, but don’t know about specs. If anybody can make the right lens for it, though, I’d say Zeiss could.


37 posted on 03/01/2012 9:49:15 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Dr. Sivana

—I wonder what the battery life on the Galaxy Beam is going to be during a presentation?—

Not an issue. You plug it in.


38 posted on 03/01/2012 9:56:35 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: ShadowAce

Keep your projector and uber-camera phones ... I’ll take a Nokia Lumia 900 please.


39 posted on 03/01/2012 10:02:54 AM PST by DesertSapper (ANY GOP candidate is better than 4 more years of 0bama!)
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To: RJS1950; ShadowAce

My question would be how long the projector bulb lasts...

I can usually plug in the phone for power...


40 posted on 03/01/2012 10:03:45 AM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: EyeGuy

The Post is centre-right, free market capitalist, founded by Conrad Black who writes a weekly column from prison. Best writers are Terence Corcoran, Christie Blatchford, Rex Murphy and George Jonas.


41 posted on 03/01/2012 10:29:43 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: varyouga
it is far easier to develop your own software for Android and you don’t have to submit it to apple for approval.

Apple's Achilles' heel has always been the way they act as gatekeepers, which discourages developers. As a developer myself, why would I purchase an SDK when the Windows SDK is free and covers >90% of users? I'm now getting into mobile development and I'm not bothering with iOS because everything needed to develop an Android app (Java IDE, Android kit and virtual machine for testing) is free and a developer account on Android Market is also free, with Google handling all sales transactions on a commission-only basis.

42 posted on 03/01/2012 10:39:03 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: reed13k

I can pretty much guarantee that the bulb is an LED that would probably outlive the phone itself.


43 posted on 03/01/2012 10:41:39 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: ShadowAce

Thanks for the ping.


44 posted on 03/01/2012 11:22:32 AM PST by GOPJ (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Verizon won’t let me tether my smartphone to a tablet without paying a $20 monthly fee.

Root your phone and you can tether all you want for free.

45 posted on 03/01/2012 11:32:10 AM PST by Keeper of the Turf (Fore!!!)
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To: Keeper of the Turf

I just Googled “root android” and found this:

If you do get caught in a boot loop, you may have to connect your phone to your computer and rewrite some code, but if you are patient and willing to do some more reading, you will almost always be able to find a way to at least restore your phone to its original state (read more on where that help comes from in the next section).

The downside seems to outweigh the upside. I’m not a big computer guy...


46 posted on 03/01/2012 11:41:50 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: ShadowAce

ping


47 posted on 03/01/2012 11:47:17 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

It’s pretty hard to mess up rooting your phone and rooting is well worth it. That is....if your phone can be rooted.


48 posted on 03/01/2012 1:42:46 PM PST by Keeper of the Turf (Fore!!!)
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To: ShadowAce
Extreme feature: 41-megapixel camera!

Pixel count is irrelevant these days. What matters is pixel quality, and the iPhone is one of the best for that. Unless Nokia has made an imaging breakthrough I haven't heard about, these pixels will be much noisier than the iPhone's.

Extreme feature: built-in projector!

Very cool, for that small market segment.

Extreme feature: It’s a phone, tablet and laptop in one!

These combo ideas haven't taken off so far, so it will be a wonder if Asus can do it.

Extreme feature: Functions as a universal remote with in-air gestures

Way too much of a gimmick as the main feature for a phone. You can already by IR attachments for others to do the same thing for those times you actually want your phone to work as an IR remote.

They’re WAY ahead of the iPhone in specific applications that really matter to people.

Specific applications that really matter to small groups of people. There's not one feature listed that I want in a phone, at least not built-in, adding to the bulk.

For example, LG is preparing to ship a no-glasses 3D smart phone called the LG Optimus 3D Max.

Wow, it'll be as exciting as the Nintendo 3DS, in other words, not.

LG also announced what it claims is the fastest smartphone in history: The LG Optimus 4X HD.

The Tegra 3 is a pretty cool idea with that one low-power core. However, while its CPU performance runs between on-par to much faster than Apple's year-old A5, that old chip still beats the Tegra on GPU performance.

49 posted on 03/01/2012 4:06:02 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Still Thinking

Their real problem in comparison to other phones isn’t the optics, but the sensors. The smaller the sensor cells get, the more noise they produce. That Canon they use for comparison has a 36×24mm sensor size, about the size of good-old 35mm film. High-end phone cameras like the iPhone have around 4.5x3.4mm sensors, less than 1/50th the sensor area of that 21 MP DSLR. Nokia is packing twice the sensor cells in that tiny area, unless a huge chunk of the phone’s space is dedicated to the camera sensor.


50 posted on 03/01/2012 4:16:18 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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