Skip to comments.Was Breitbart LEGALLY Assassinated?
Posted on 03/04/2012 8:28:17 AM PST by null and void
If Breitbart was assassinated, it could be perfectly legal under current US laws and policy.
CIA Lawyers Maintains Citizens Could be Targets if they are at War With the U.S.What is a weapon?
December 1, 2011
The Associated Press has reported that top national security lawyers in the Obama administration have determined that U.S. citizens are legitimate military targets when they take up arms with al-Qaeda.
Answering questions at a national security conference Thursday about the CIA killing of Anwar al-Alwaki, a radical American-born Muslim cleric who Obama descirbed as "the leader of external operations for Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.
Al-Alwaki had been killed in a September 30 U.S. drone strike led by the CIA in the mountains of Yemen. The radical, whos fiery sermons made him a larger-than-life figure in the world of Jihad, had long eluded capture by CIA and Yemeni security operatives.
However, in 2011, after days of surveillance, the New York Times reported, armed drones operated by the CIA took off from a new secret American base in the Arabian Peninsula, crossed into the northern Yemen border and rained a barrage of Hellfire missiles at a car carrying al-Alwaki and other top operatives from Al-Qaeda's branch in Yemen.
According to the AP, the government lawyers - CIA counsel Stephen Preston and Pentagon counsel Jeh Johnson - did not directly address the al-Alwaki case. But they said U.S. citizens don't have immunity when they're at war with the United States.
Johnson said only the executive branch, not the courts, are equipped to make decisions about who qualifies as an enemy, the AP reported.
Is someone who threatened to end the Obama presidency "at war" with the U.S. in the eyes of the president?
IF the president determined that Andrew Breitbart's release of video of his college days would threaten his presidency, and
IF the president believes his presidency is essential to the continuation of the US government,
THEN the president would be OBLIGATED to remove the threat.
As such he would be required, in his own mind, to issue a presidential finding that Andrew Beritbart needs to be eliminated before the videos are released.
The CIA, would legally be bound to follow the presidential directive and eliminate the threat in a timely fashion.
After all, destabilizing the US government is an act of war, and in perfect alignment with al Qaeda's goals, isn't it? Isn't it?
Although some of us old fashioned folks, bitterly clinging to the Constitution, might argue that it is a freedom of speech issue
And beyond that, no matter who does the autopsy, there will be a conspiracy cottage industry if a finding of death by natural causes comes back. Cripes, look at the Elenin conspiracy mongering, all for a minor comet that broke up before leaving the inner solar system.
Why didnt he have personal security?
First question I asked when the news reports said “he was out walking alone and collapsed”, and a neighbor saw it and phoned 911. Where was his security detail? Or didn’t he have one? Inquiring minds want to know.
Or...." no evidence of a hate crime."
Andrew Breibart for Emmanuel Goldstein...
The government running operation, Fast and Furious with no consequences, NDAA signed into law over the holidays, millions just given away to fake green companies, Corzine stealing is acceptable... run more like organized crime, more brazen every day.
“APPARENT natural causes”
That phrase appeared in the very first articles, before it was even widely-confirmed that he’d died, IIRC. Something doesn’t pass the “smell test”, here.
He could have written it off as a business expense just like the “stars” do.
And I would agree with you on that under most circumstances, including the most likely ones, which are
A: he did die of natural causes (which I believe) — or
B: he was killed, but with an untraceable substance that affected the heart. You know, something Bill Ayers might have slipped him Super Sunday.
There is an option C or D, but I don’t want to speculate on those, because the reality is almost certainly A, and if not A, then B, and under either, you are totally correct.
then we have become a third world country...
IMO, that happened in January 2009, when Obummer was inaugurated.
Your article is brilliant and important. Your contrast of water gate and fast and furious is perfect. In the general , we need to hit Obama with it. There is no way the lying coverup media ever will.
If you haven’t read Travis ‘s article yet, freepers, it’s a must read
Thanks, Travis. Excellent work and it needs to spread like wildfire.
Johnson said only the executive branch, not the courts, are equipped to make decisions about who qualifies as an enemy,More like:Star Chamber ??
Crescent and Star Chamber ??
Obama has the power to murder and disappear US citizens. His Homeland inSecurity thugs have named conservative groups domestic terrorists. The Democrat party and media has named the Tea Party terrorists. Andrew took out Obama’s corrupt election machine - ACORN.
From now on, we can never know for sure who our President is murdering and diappearing. The American government, under Obama, has turned on the citizens of America.
That was very odd. A relatively young person dying suddenly who is very politically active and has political enemies. And yup, right away, natural causes.
BTW Iran Contra wasnt any kind of a crime.
Really? Selling arms to Iran is AOK? I had no idea. Aren’t they using them against us now? I don’t know much of this story but in the 80’s I remember hearing a bit (I was young). Didn’t Colonel North go to jail? Seriously didn’t hear much about it.
I have never heard reference to security details for the Marxist mouthpieces bent on our destruction.
What exactly was Breibarts heart condition called, anyone know? I haven’t read this anywhere.
Heart conditions are funny, sometimes a thing as seemingly unrelated as gingivitis can set off the big one. I don’t know if he was snuffed but I wouldn’t doubt for a second that the present administration would do it AND has the un-official connections to bring it off.
There were rumors about Marilyn . She had been with RFK and JFK. Given the recent revelation from the former mistress of JFK and his penchant for telling her to have sex with someone while he was present...it is quite possible Marilyn was involved with both of them.
Breitbart didn’t look well. He was only 43 but looked much older.
That is not to say that the CIA didn’t take him out.
Think about the KGB. If they wanted to kill someone they could make it look like natural causes. Or they could just not care what it looked like because it was Russia ...so they off someone with plutonium as a warning.
Yep, AB sure was a Bright & Shiny Beacon of truth. He had the guts to do stuff that most will not. I will truly miss him. His turn from crazy lib to hardcore conservative is a great story to be echoed throughout the land.
Rest in peace AB.
Didnt Colonel North go to jail?
“North was charged with several felonies and convicted of three, but the convictions were later vacated, and the underlying charges dismissed due to the limited immunity agreement granted for his pre-trial public Congressional testimony about the affair.”
Huh? Political assassinations the world over may have even happened more 20-30 years ago than they do now. The information age and the 24/7/365 media lens that goes with it probably make this sort of thing even more difficult now than it once was. Human nature is what it is. Nothing has really changed and times are no stranger now than they have been in the past.
There is no reason to think Breitbart was assassinated at this point. Speculating and obsessing over it is about as useful as arguing that the CIA killed Tupac.
I've read different things.
He may have died naturally BUT it is highly doubtful for two reasons:
1) The natural causes determination came out ridiculously fast.
2) All celebrity autopsies are complete and reported within 24 hours. The report is either the final determination or that toxicology reports have to come back before determination.
They've learned a lot since Vince Foster, just not enough.
Much as I would love to see such a conspiracy exposed, Andrew's heart was a ticking time bomb.
And it detonated.
Exactly. This is the most likely cause of death.
I have never heard reference to security details for the Marxist mouthpieces bent on our destruction.
Ever heard of ACORN, SEIU, AFL-CIO and other union thugs/goons?
Obama planned for this contingency long ago. His supporters run the medical examiner’s office - the autopsy will be a fraud. The conspiracy is vast and deep. /tinfoil hat=off>
“He was not assassinated and any talk of that does a disservice to him and his adversaries.”
It lowers and corsens the discussion. It is akin to calling your adversary a Nazi. It is also pure conjecture.
The mind of the progressive operates like a ship without an anchor. Moral and metaphysical relativism.
Committing an error which is both moral and intellectual, the progressive has preferred to look away from his comprehension of the existence of transcendent rules.
This is why it doesn’t matter that while in certain respects the current administration has not upheld its oath to the U.S. Constitution, yet it can pretend agreement with it in others.
I see by your sign up that you weren't here during Clinton. Your head would have exploded.
The reality is that we are being taken over by rich and powerful marxists (like Soros). And you want to pretend that they don't play rough. Or have access to things like this. You'd be wrong.
“It lowers and corsens the discussion. It is akin to calling your adversary a Nazi. It is also pure conjecture.”
OK - That’s interesting. What is the discussion that’s being corsened? AB is dead. What discussion should we be having? I always find this kind of argument fascinating. Do you remember Vince Foster? There certainly were questions surrounding his death. Why would his friends, loved ones, and admirers be content with a park ranger’s report of cause of death? If my loved one died unexpectedly, I’d want to know every single thing I could about it. Why was that not the case for VF? Same here. If there’s anything amiss in AB’s death, why should we not want to know?
It’s akin to calling our opponents nazis? Seriously? Again, how?
RIP. But it is a bit odd.
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Gee, could it have been that his wife and family released a statement that indicated 'natural causes'?
Do you really think that the WH had him killed and then contacted the media, instructing them to say 'natural causes'? Sheesh.
So, natural causes then.
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