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Are we about to be stuck with Romney?

Posted on 03/04/2012 11:39:09 AM PST by Tulkas

After winning in Arizona and Michigan, and then again in Washington, Romney has momentum going into Super Tuesday. Even Ohio now seems to be a toss up. If he starts to wrap this thing up then just what exactly are we supposed to do?

I don't want to sit this out but I don't think I can vote for him. Is a third party vote worth it? It won't help get Obama out of office. I am starting to lose hope.


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1 posted on 03/04/2012 11:39:13 AM PST by Tulkas
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To: Tulkas

If that @$$wipe Romney wins, it’s probably because Newt and Rick both ran, thus splitting the conservative vote. What should have been done, is that all the conservatives got together, and picked the best one of their number to run alone.


2 posted on 03/04/2012 11:43:12 AM PST by Jacob Kell (Osama/Obama the only difference is BS.)
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To: Tulkas
Is a third party vote worth it? It won't help get Obama out of office. I am starting to lose hope.

I say go for it and vote 3rd party, if you want continued high gas prices hence higher food prices, more Americans on food stamps, more Americans receiving welfare benefits, Obama to make at least 1 pick for the Supreme Court, the continued clawing at Religious Freedoms. Yep, I say go for it.

3 posted on 03/04/2012 11:44:08 AM PST by Ballygrl
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To: Tulkas
Nope.

A Romney win only secures another 4 years for the better socialist, 0bama.

4 posted on 03/04/2012 11:48:38 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Tulkas

For sure, but if he wins, he’ll manage the decay using cutting edge technology. The government will still dictate your health benefits, but you’ll be able find out immediately that your bypass isn’t covered using the Internet vs. having to phone the IRS and go through those endless menus. Much better.


5 posted on 03/04/2012 11:55:37 AM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: Tulkas

If we are stuck with romney, then we are stuck with Obama, or his policies, no matter who wins in November.


6 posted on 03/04/2012 11:56:58 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Tulkas

It ain’t over til it’s over. Get out on the airwaves and get people to vote for Santorum. He’d make a great President and he’s proven he’s a fighter.

Ohio, save the country and vote Santorum.


7 posted on 03/04/2012 11:57:20 AM PST by Kenny
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To: Tulkas

I am not “stuck” with anyone.

I’d vote for the Prohibition Party before Romney


8 posted on 03/04/2012 11:59:14 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Jacob Kell

And, just who makes the decision who the best conservative candidate is? They all claim to be the best, so for one to drop out in favor of another would be admitting that he isn’t the best conservative for the job. This isn’t the reason any of them ran for office in the first place. There is too much ego on display for any of them to admit that their opponent is the better conservative. Think about it!


9 posted on 03/04/2012 12:00:57 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: Tulkas

I’m not sitting out any election. Every time I vote, I will cast the vote for the most Conservative candidate on the ballot. Conservatives need a long-range plan; this emphasis on immediacy is destroying us, IMHO.


10 posted on 03/04/2012 12:01:15 PM PST by Pat4ever
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To: Jacob Kell

I totally agree.

I have long proposed that the year or so before the elections that the conservatives should have formed a party-within-a-party and hold their own conventions across the country to determine who our candidate should be.

Then we all get behind that candidate before the primaries ever start.


11 posted on 03/04/2012 12:02:28 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Tulkas

Gingrich or Santorum could win it if they started talking about the forgery. Trump was on a roll until NBC paid him off by renewing his show.


12 posted on 03/04/2012 12:02:42 PM PST by JohnnyP
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To: Tulkas

seem like it. Here’s why:

Paul: lots of enthusiasm; has run before; libertarian, good economic policies; would loose in the general, but with all the youth Ronbots, would be close. Win to Obama

Santorum: excitement on the evangalical & social conservative front. Voting record is very big government with things like higher min wage & debt ceiling increases. Will turn off the moderates because of his “preaching”; win to Obama.

Mitts: NE liberal Repub along the lines of Snowe. Not much enthusiasm as evidenced by lower voter turnout in counties he has won. Has to answer to Romneycare with comparisons to Obamacare; but he will gain some moderates. Close, but Win to Obama.

Newt: Lots of excitement when he gets media attention. Higher turnout in counties where he won. Keeps hammering at BO’s policies. But with his divorces, turns off social conservatives. In general, will get hammered in regards to prior scandals, wives, etc. Would be great debates, but win to Obama.

I don’t want to be this negative nor do I want BO win, but this is the reality as I see it.


13 posted on 03/04/2012 12:03:08 PM PST by vidbizz
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To: Kenny

Rick’s my man on Tuesday. Pray for this election, folks!


14 posted on 03/04/2012 12:04:02 PM PST by Pat4ever
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To: Tulkas

We’re in a Marxist dominated Oligarchy.

It won’t matter who is the next president.


15 posted on 03/04/2012 12:07:35 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Pat4ever
Rick’s my man on Tuesday. Pray for this election, folks!

Thank you! I'm praying non-stop, trying to hit the airwaves and defend Santorum against all the BS being thrown at him. My only regret is that I've waited this long to see the handwriting on the wall. It's the GOPe & Obama who want to bring Rick down.

16 posted on 03/04/2012 12:09:57 PM PST by Kenny
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To: Tulkas
I going to pretend nothing is wrong until it is clear the cause is hopeless.

However, I agree with your assessment that things look Grim. From the day Rick Perry sat on top of the heap, and it looked like ROmney was going to be an afterthought, nothing good has come of this process. Good candidates and bad candidates climbed to the top, only to be torn down.

Gingrich appeared to be the last man standing, but he too flew brightly and then flamed out and crashed to the ground.

Santorum was the sole candidate to get a 2nd chance of sorts, but he was unacceptable apparently to conservatives, who wanted so badly for the electorate to love Gingrich again. Unfortunately, while they succeeded in bringing Santorum back down to earth, so far there is little to indicate that any of that support has gone back to Gingrich.

Instead, Gingrich has a sting of 3rd and 4th-place finishes. Forget asking when the last time is he beat Romney -- when is the last time he beat ANYBODY? (He beat Paul in Colorado by 1%). How often has he even been in the teens?

Here is a depressing map, showing 1st-place finishers by county:

I think you can guess which colors are whose. Ron Paul features way too prominently in this map -- that's how bad our conservatives are doing, there are several states where Paul has come in 2nd place.

17 posted on 03/04/2012 12:10:31 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Tulkas

Why worry about that question yet?

There’s a contest on.

Fight it to win. If we win, that question is moot.

If we don’t win, that’s not a question to consider yet.


18 posted on 03/04/2012 12:11:53 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: Tulkas
If he starts to wrap this thing up then just what exactly are we supposed to do?

Hope and pray for a new island to erupt out of the South Pacific where we can go and live. Ideally it will cool rapidly and become lush and verdant by next January.

19 posted on 03/04/2012 12:12:25 PM PST by steve86 (I have Schizoid Personality Disorder and am exercising the privileges thereof.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Things looked grim for George Washington.

Stop with the defeatism.

We have an election to win.


20 posted on 03/04/2012 12:14:02 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
In my own county, Benton of Washington, Santorum or Gingrich would have won except that the vast majority of would-be voters were locked out of the caucuses (by Paul and Romney-ites).
21 posted on 03/04/2012 12:15:51 PM PST by steve86 (I have Schizoid Personality Disorder and am exercising the privileges thereof.)
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To: Daveinyork
If we are stuck with romney, then we are stuck with Obama, or his policies, no matter who wins in November.

Dave, your head is stuck up your nether regions. Romney is a liberal, but he's not a communist. It matters who wins in November. If people sit out the election or vote 3rd party, I will think of them as useful idiots.

22 posted on 03/04/2012 12:15:59 PM PST by neocon1984
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To: neocon1984

Curious if the owner of this site has consented to your support of Romney as the nominee.


23 posted on 03/04/2012 12:18:49 PM PST by steve86 (I have Schizoid Personality Disorder and am exercising the privileges thereof.)
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To: Tulkas

That was decided 4 years ago.


24 posted on 03/04/2012 12:20:29 PM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

Yup, the RINO elite and news media have chosen your candidate already you stupid, neanderthal conservatives. Keep clinging to your guns and your bibles you idiotic rubes.


25 posted on 03/04/2012 12:22:30 PM PST by bigdirty
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To: Tulkas
Are we about to be stuck with Romney?

The GOP is killing the country only slightly slower than the Democrats.

26 posted on 03/04/2012 12:24:48 PM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: Tulkas
We work for a conservative platform and Vice President. Box Romney in...

Mike

27 posted on 03/04/2012 12:32:51 PM PST by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: steve86
So is this the sixth state in which we have Romney cheating? I guess I need to add it to my list.

Iowa - had some one count his two votes as twenty so he could say he won the caucus

Florida - changed the day of the election to an earlier time so he could win while he was considered the front runner and changed the rules after the fact so that he could have a winner take all when every primary moved to before Super Tuesday was supposed to be proportional just so he could keep Newt from getting any delegates

Maine - called the voting early so he could claim he won

Virginia - made sure all the qualifying documents collected were “severely” scrutinized and Newt and Santorum would not get on the ballot

Michigan - changed the rules after the fact so that he picked up an extra delegate instead of the 50/50 split that was required

Washington - locked Gingrich and Santorum voters out of the caucuses

Are there any others I’m missing?

Long ago, I said the only way Mitt Romney could ever win the nomination is by cheating. He and the GOP-E are doing everything they can to make that true.

28 posted on 03/04/2012 12:38:56 PM PST by Waryone (Mitt Romney, dangerous homosexualist and lying socialist)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Cool map. Paul’s pulling the prairie dog vote. No wonder he gets so much media attention.


29 posted on 03/04/2012 12:41:06 PM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: throwback

Actually I’d like to know which color is whom.

Lots of orange, everywhere near the state of Utah.

Just saying.

My first thought was, Mormons. But perhaps that orange is Paul votes?

Interesting lack of seemingly captive voters, for Romney if so...


30 posted on 03/04/2012 12:44:38 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: EGPWS

No, Romney would not be as bad as 0bama. Not as good as, well most anybody else to the right of the political divide, but he may well be the candidate and anybody else won’t be. Sorry, but that’s just crazy to think he would be as bad as the big 0. Not good, but sure as heck not that bad.


31 posted on 03/04/2012 12:52:22 PM PST by SuzyQue
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To: Tulkas

We’ve been ‘Stuck” with Romney since the day Sarah Palin decided not to run.

He’s spent 4 years building an organization and support for this thing. Organization, GOTV, and MONEY wins the nomination, not debates, or wishful hopes.

The one thing I lament about FR, and the people on it, is how little actual ORGANIZING we do, to get our voice out.


32 posted on 03/04/2012 12:55:54 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Looking at that map again, I have to ask is Romney orange?

If so, everyone look at that map.

Look at where the orange is.

Is Romney’s “lead” a myth? Is it simply that Mormon states, are so far over-represented in the totals?

I see, a bunch of states each side of Utah, colored orange. Not a lot of orange elsewhere.

Is Romney’s lead an illusion?


33 posted on 03/04/2012 12:56:13 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: Pat4ever
I will cast the vote for the most Conservative candidate on the ballot
Since Obama is far more conservative than Romney--Obama was never able to deliver a public option with ObamaCare, Romney, famously, was able to deliver a public option and more!--then I would prefer it if you didn't vote at all.

For the rest of us, the only honest option to a Romney nomination is to vote third party or to write in a candidate.
34 posted on 03/04/2012 12:56:26 PM PST by Timaeus (Willard Mitt Romney Delenda Est)
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To: Ballygrl

Which gun grabbing socialist are you talking about, Romney or Obama?


35 posted on 03/04/2012 12:59:54 PM PST by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Timaeus

None of the Republicans are Marxist. Sitting the election out or voting 3rd party is a vote for the candidate who is a Marxist. I wouldn’t dream of staying home.


36 posted on 03/04/2012 1:05:33 PM PST by Pat4ever
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To: bigdirty

Ibtz


37 posted on 03/04/2012 1:09:35 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: Tulkas

Santorum would be a disaster, electorally speaking. If Newt doesn’t somehow find a way to fight his way back to the top, it looks like Romney will be nominated. It appears, to me, that the voters are warming to the belief that Romney is the most electable and that beating Obama is the goal.


38 posted on 03/04/2012 1:21:31 PM PST by Signalman
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To: goseminoles

Off topic sorry, but it just dawned on my how funny if would be if someday, the Admin Moderator were to post “IBTZ”.

:D


39 posted on 03/04/2012 1:26:01 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: Signalman

“beating Obama is the goal” That’s right.


40 posted on 03/04/2012 1:27:40 PM PST by Pat4ever
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To: bigdirty

ZOTTED by a rube.


41 posted on 03/04/2012 1:36:07 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
..how funny if would be if someday, the Admin Moderator were to post “IBTZ”

That would be cheating! I may do it sometime.

42 posted on 03/04/2012 1:38:43 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Lol!!


43 posted on 03/04/2012 1:42:55 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: Admin Moderator

Might be a heck of an effective way to get someone to cool it, without actually vaporizing them into an ion cloud.

(btw, explaining in advance for any time I should cool it, I was just engaging in spirited discussion!...)

:D


44 posted on 03/04/2012 1:48:42 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: Ballygrl

Absolutely right...I intend to vote for anyone who will get this bastard out of the whitehouse. I don’t like Romney but he is far better than Zero. It’s a primary election who ever wins will be the candidate and I’m not doing anything that will keep the Kenyon in office.


45 posted on 03/04/2012 1:52:54 PM PST by ontap
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To: steve86
Curious if the owner of this site has consented to your support of Romney as the nominee.

1. I do not support Romney as the nominee. Your verbal comprehension is obviously deficient if that is what you understood. 2. I admire Jim, but do not need his consent to express an opinion. The day that comes will be the day I leave this site, after 10 years. You got anything else, TROLL?

46 posted on 03/04/2012 1:54:02 PM PST by neocon1984
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To: Pat4ever
None of the Republicans are Marxist. Sitting the election out or voting 3rd party is a vote for the candidate who is a Marxist. I wouldn’t dream of staying home.
Yes, and for the same reason don't vote for Romney. His ideology may be difficult to discern because of the great cloud of lies and obfuscations he emits but his record of pro-state pro-gay and pro-collectivist solutions governance is beyond dispute.
47 posted on 03/04/2012 1:59:26 PM PST by Timaeus (Willard Mitt Romney Delenda Est)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Well, unfortunately, Washington, New Hampshire/Maine, and FLorida are not really Mormon states.

The issue is that Romney has the 4 corners of the map. Santorum has the midwest, while GIngrich has the south.


48 posted on 03/04/2012 2:04:34 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Tulkas
Are we about to be stuck with Romney?

Don't act all surprised.

This was decided more than a year ago.

49 posted on 03/04/2012 2:05:45 PM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: neocon1984
You got anything else, TROLL?
Yes. I was just wondering how long you will last with you shilling for Romney and all.
50 posted on 03/04/2012 2:08:05 PM PST by Timaeus (Willard Mitt Romney Delenda Est)
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