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PPP OH poll: Romney 37, Santorum 36 and fading fast
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Posted on 03/04/2012 6:48:43 PM PST by lilyfreeper

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To: Steelfish

Perry quit with honor...


101 posted on 03/04/2012 10:02:02 PM PST by altura
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To: Dante3
Unless it is Romney against Obama. Believe me, Romney would not sue states over voter ID and perks for illegal aliens or retain Eric Holder, etc.

You're saying this about a man who has done the following:

1. Implemented a Socialistic Health System called RomneyCare with an Individual Mandate
2. Supported whole-heartedly Abortion.
3. Supported the Gay Agenda up to and including Gay Marriage.
4. Supported TARP
5. Supported the Auto-Bailouts
6. Supports Global Warming
7. Appointed uber-liberal judges to MA judgeships.
8. Implemented a state-level Assualt Weapons Ban after the US congress allowed the Federal Assault Weapons Ban to elapse.

He continually lies about his record and about his opponents in the GOP POTUS Primary.

What was your point again about what Romney will or will not do?
102 posted on 03/04/2012 10:25:51 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Kenny

“I think it’s people like you who constantly run him down who are giving Romney the nomination. Santorum was doing fine, surging in all the polls until all the Newt people, GOPe, and media pummeled him before MI.

And then there were none.”


The problem is Santorum. He simply can’t handle the media the way Newt can. He simply doesn’t have the background, the depth or the strength to represent us. He’s not a strong candidate, and succeeds only when the light is not shined on him. Just compare how Santorum handles the contraception question and how Newt handles them... it’s a stark difference.

Keep in mind, Santorum was involved in the pummeling of Newt Gingrich in Florida. He had no problem launching nasty attack ads or making nasty comments, insulting Newt’s character and intelligence. Can you please tell us why it is we should mourn for Santorum when he’s been involved in the same gutter politics that Newt specifically warned the conservatives not to involve themselves in? It was Newt, Cain, and Perry who were the only ones who didn’t engage in the dirty behavior. (Mind you, attacking Romney is not attacking a conservative.) Interestingly, the former duo endorsed Newt, not Santorum.

I have no desire to just put a guy up, ignore his history and platform, and then get mad because we shook the boat “when he was doing fine.” I want a candidate that represents me. I don’t want a candidate who is going to keep the status quo or preach to me, meanwhile he accomplishes nothing.

I’m also very concerned about Russia and China and their axis of evil with Iran and other countries. I don’t think that Santorum has the imagination to even think it over. If we find ourselves in WW3, how will Santorum handle it? Bomb the Iranians, but ignore the puppetmasters in Russia? Santorum voted for START II.


103 posted on 03/04/2012 11:48:19 PM PST by Apollo5600
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To: napscoordinator

“If it wasn’t for Newt, Santorum would have won Michigan and Washington. Thanks to Newt and his dismal 4th place win in most states, we will be stuck with Romney instead of the most principled, moral, family values candidate in 30 years. Newt knows this and is working with Romney to ensure he wins.”


But Santorum isn’t the most principled, moral, family values candidate in 30 years. In fact, my opinion of him is the exact opposite. You’re talking about Rick Santorum who endorsed Specter for both President and Senator, a guy who ran a platform on “changing” Republican culture to be specifically more tolerant of pro-abortion views. You’re talking about Rick Santorum who voted against Right to Work, who supported the Unions, and with whom I can find no significant bill or issue ever sponsored by him. In fact, in 2006 he ran on a platform of “working with Barbara Boxer to write “Open Space” legislation. I’m working with Hillary to write legislation aimed at targeting violence in video games.” He also once put in an amendment with Ted Kennedy that would have given a Catholic Church the right to take a local property belonging to a Veteran’s Group. In his book, “It Takes a Family.” Santorum wrote that liberals support individualism, and that conservatives prefer collectivism. It seems he thinks the government’s role is to promote morality and “the family,” but not necessarily to have a smaller government. He insulted what he viewed as “libertarianism,” which is THE (on most domestic issues) philosophy of the Tea Party.

But what first got me on Santorums tail was nothing of this. It was his bashing of the other conservative front runners when they were front-runners. He did this without anybody really commenting on it or noticing. He even did this after Florida when he began to surge, but none of you really cared. It’s his dishonesty and his willingness to attack other conservatives that broke the deal from stage one.


104 posted on 03/04/2012 11:48:30 PM PST by Apollo5600
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To: CharlesWayneCT

i hope u are right hoss


105 posted on 03/05/2012 12:09:30 AM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: ansel12
There were others who were running who dropped out because Huckabee became the social conservative's 1st pick.

The point is that Santorum cannot beat Romney, he hasn't yet, but Newt has.

106 posted on 03/05/2012 12:55:04 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Jim from C-Town
This is a primary-vote for the one who you think would make the best candidate.

Don't think in terms of tactics.

107 posted on 03/05/2012 12:56:47 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: org.whodat
How many primaries has Santorum won?

At least Newt beat Romney in a primary.

108 posted on 03/05/2012 12:57:47 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I am glad Castle lost, better to have lost the seat then to have another RINO traitor.


109 posted on 03/05/2012 12:59:07 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: lilyfreeper
Losing an election by 18 points as a 2-term senator would normally disqualify anybody from running again. He somehow became a frontrunner ??

Simply being, or having been a US Senator normally disqualifies someone from becoming president.

Senators Who Became President

To date, sixteen senators have also served as president of the United States. Only three senators, Warren G. Harding, John F. Kennedy, and Barack Obama moved directly from the U.S. Senate to the White House.
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James Monroe
Senator, 1790-1794
President, 1817-1825
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John Quincy Adams
Senator, 1803-1808
President, 1825-1829
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Andrew Jackson
Senator, 1797-1798; 1823-1825
President, 1829-1837
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Martin Van Buren
Senator, 1821-1828
President, 1837-1841
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William Henry Harrison
Senator, 1825-1828
President, 1841
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John Tyler
Senator, 1827-1836
President, 1841-1845
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Franklin Pierce
Senator, 1837-1842
President, 1853-1857
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James Buchanan
Senator, 1834-1845
President, 1857-1861
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Andrew Johnson
Senator, 1857-1862; 1875
President, 1865-1869
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Benjamin Harrison
Senator, 1881-1887
President, 1889-1893
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Warren G. Harding
Senator, 1915-1921
President, 1921-1923
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Harry S. Truman
Senator, 1935-1945
President, 1945-1953
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John F. Kennedy
Senator, 1953-1960
President, 1961-1963
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Lyndon B. Johnson
Senator, 1949-1961
President, 1963-1969
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Richard M. Nixon
Senator, 1950-1953
President, 1969-1974
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Barack Obama
Senator, 2005-2008
President, 2009- present

110 posted on 03/05/2012 1:08:54 AM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: American Constitutionalist
a gay billionaire gave money to attack Rick

Ever hear of the hyperlink?

111 posted on 03/05/2012 1:43:20 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: Steelfish

Why didn’t Santorum quit with honor after he lost New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida and Nevada by huge margins? He got a bump from a bunch of endorsements by religious leaders which is the ONLY thing that’s fuelled his candidacy in the race so far. That won’t be nearly enough to win him the nomination or the presidency. He had his chance in the spotlight to win support on his own merits and utterly failed in his tongue-tied, marble-mouthed way. No surprise since after months of debates he never rose above the bottom of the barrel until the Iowa religious leader endorsement.


112 posted on 03/05/2012 3:34:48 AM PST by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Even a blind hog!!


113 posted on 03/05/2012 4:10:35 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

Still waiting for Santorum to actually win a primary.


114 posted on 03/05/2012 4:26:22 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: fortheDeclaration

When you change the rules on delegate count, you may have something to say. Otherwise, whine on, if it makes you happy.


115 posted on 03/05/2012 4:29:05 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: allmost
"Eyes WITHOUT A FACE..."


116 posted on 03/05/2012 4:29:25 AM PST by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: Vigilanteman

Not being able to control your schlong dose have consequences for a Republican doesn’t it?

As well it should. Conservatism begins at home. If you’re not a conservative there, you’re not a conservative.


117 posted on 03/05/2012 4:34:40 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Perhaps, but, there is no comparison between Lincoln and Santorum.

Exactly, I don’t see Santorum intentionally starting a war between different groups of Americans.


118 posted on 03/05/2012 4:39:26 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: freedomfiter2; Impy
“Exactly, I don’t see Santorum intentionally starting a war between different groups of Americans.”

And I don't see Santorum ever getting elected once, let alone twice, to the presidency.

That war has been done for over 150 years in case you didn't noticed. Lincoln's side won it pretty decisively. It was in all the papers.

119 posted on 03/05/2012 6:22:48 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The Establishment is the establishment.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I’m just reporting what Newt said.


120 posted on 03/05/2012 7:02:05 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: wardaddy

i’m pretty sure Santorum is fading, and Gingrich isn’t getting much bump from it. The question is whether the Santorum fade has stabilized, or will continue, and if Romney will end up winning instead of Santorum.

I will be shocked if Newt comes in 2nd in Ohio, much less first. He could get some delegates though in any case.


121 posted on 03/05/2012 9:08:13 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: lilyfreeper

I haven’t yet decided who I’m voting for on Tuesday - not Romeny, but, the Freepers on here are turning me off to Newt with their constant put downs of Rick. No, I’m not necessarily a Santorum supporter - (I was for Rick Perry), but, I see far more civility coming from Santorum supporters.

Come on Newt people - think before you speak and possibly destroy your candidate with your nastiness.

I may still vote for Newt - won’t know until I get in the voting booth tomorrow.


122 posted on 03/05/2012 10:08:46 AM PST by Catsrus
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To: Catsrus

Thanks for considering Rick.


123 posted on 03/05/2012 3:04:19 PM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: freedomfiter2

You’d be living on a giant Indian Reservation if the rebels that started that war had won it.


124 posted on 03/05/2012 3:49:50 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

That war has been done for over 150 years in case you didn’t noticed. Lincoln’s side won it pretty decisively. It was in all the papers.

I didn’t comment on when the war occured, just about how bad of a President Lincoln was.


125 posted on 03/05/2012 4:08:52 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: org.whodat
Can't say that Santorum didn't win a primary anymore.

Congrats to your guy, big night for him to win in 3 States.

126 posted on 03/06/2012 8:47:01 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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