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Man ordered to remove 72-ft boat from yard
upi ^ | March. 5, 2012

Posted on 03/06/2012 6:13:25 AM PST by JoeProBono

NEWPORT BEACH, Calif., A California man who has spent the past six years restoring a 72-foot ship in his yard said the city is ordering him to get rid of the boat.

Dennis Holland, who has been restoring the Shawnee, a 1916 ketch, at his Newport Beach home, said city officials obtained a court injunction giving him until April 30 to get rid of the vessel, the Los Angeles Times reported Monday.

Deputy City Attorney Kyle Rowen said Holland faces fines of up to $1,000 per day or possible jail time if he does not comply with the injunction, which was issued Thursday by Superior Court Judge Gregory Munoz.

Holland is accused of not abiding by an ordinance requiring him to obtain a permit. He said officials would not grant him a permit because he could not give them an estimated date of completion.

"Mr. Holland has been in violation of city laws for many years and has had ample opportunity to move the boat to a suitable location," City Attorney Aaron Harp wrote in an email Friday. "The city is hopeful that Mr. Holland will comply with the court order and move the boat to a suitable location that is consistent with applicable laws."

Holland said the ordinance he is accused of violating was passed in 2009 and he did not break any laws when he originally began the project.

"I can't move the boat," Holland said Friday. "The city's going to have to come in and destroy it. I don't have the heart to."


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To: al_c

From the looks of the rigging he’s got up around it, it isn’t going anywhere easily.


51 posted on 03/06/2012 7:30:43 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: JoeProBono

Anyone living on a small residential lot should think these things through, and pick the scope and scale of their projects accordingly.
If this guy would have built a pole building on a country lot somewhere, he wouldn’t be wasting his time fighting the inevitable.


52 posted on 03/06/2012 7:31:46 AM PST by Fireone (Gingrich/West 2012. (did I mention FUBO?))
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To: JoeProBono

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=33.640065,-117.897963&ll=33.640049,-117.897694&spn=0.000371,0.000562&num=1&t=h&gl=us&z=20


53 posted on 03/06/2012 7:41:46 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: dfwgator
>>.....what’s a cubit?<<

My bad...I thought you said post-it. :(

54 posted on 03/06/2012 7:50:35 AM PST by Daffynition (On Andrew Breitbart: In his honor, I'll fight harder...He'll be back and he'll be millions.)
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I watched a guy build something like this from the ground up, totally from scratch, in his front yard on the Texas coast.

It took him about 6 years because he worked on it in his spare time.

It sank on it's maiden voyage.

55 posted on 03/06/2012 7:51:13 AM PST by red-dawg
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To: smokingfrog


56 posted on 03/06/2012 7:53:06 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: smokingfrog

From the street level views, it really doesn’t look that bad comparatively. Certainly no worse than his neighbors covered car and open top trailer in his yard...


57 posted on 03/06/2012 7:59:55 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Travis McGee
Are you a welder too? Nice job.

My idea of a perfect survival platform.

58 posted on 03/06/2012 8:05:10 AM PST by gettinolder (Smashed lips save ships.)
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To: muir_redwoods

Just an observation, naked carpentry is usually a bad idea.


No kidding - hitting your thumb hurts badly enough ...


59 posted on 03/06/2012 8:08:25 AM PST by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: al_c

It is. I suggest fitting it with a good ol 5-incher and testing it on city hall.


60 posted on 03/06/2012 8:11:42 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (nobody gives me warheads anyway))
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To: Hardraade

59. Just an observation, naked carpentry is usually a bad idea.
No kidding - hitting your thumb hurts badly enough ...


60. It is. I suggest fitting it with a good ol 5-incher and testing it on city hall.

Unrelated posts?


61 posted on 03/06/2012 8:17:32 AM PST by dangus
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To: All
Building wooden Ships are his thing I watched him build this one in Santa Ana Heights.

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-12-29/news/vw-6550_1_newport-beach

http://www.ocean-institute.org/programs/spirit.html

62 posted on 03/06/2012 8:20:09 AM PST by troy McClure
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To: dangus

38, not 59. Attention...


63 posted on 03/06/2012 8:27:53 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (nobody gives me warheads anyway))
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To: All

Here are photos of the Pride of Newport.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Spirit+of+Dana+Point&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&rlz=1I7GGLL_enUS385&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=GztWT_24DqbQiALNxO3HBw&ved=0CD8QsAQ&biw=1341&bih=600


64 posted on 03/06/2012 8:31:14 AM PST by troy McClure
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To: gettinolder

I haven’t stuck or burnt a rod in a few years, but yes, that was all my handywork.


65 posted on 03/06/2012 8:39:09 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: red-dawg
This guy worked on his for 25 years, and then it broke falling off a trailer on the way to Marina del Rey.

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20116136,00.html

I remember it because I had trouble getting to work that morning...:^)

66 posted on 03/06/2012 8:40:11 AM PST by az_gila
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To: Travis McGee

Travis - How did you shape the hull plates? Was there a form you placed flat sheets into? Did you purchase the sheets formed?

I get the welding - but the forming seems exceedingly difficult.

Beautiful result...


67 posted on 03/06/2012 9:13:26 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: muir_redwoods

LOL that was my though also when I saw the picture...good bodies on those boys but no protection from little accidents....:O) we must both live in realville not artisticville


68 posted on 03/06/2012 9:34:01 AM PST by goat granny
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To: Triple; Travis McGee

Nevermind - looks like a Bruce Roberts kit.

Very well done - I hope she brings tons of pleasure.


69 posted on 03/06/2012 9:47:56 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple
No kit, the only thing I used from the Bruce Roberts 434 plans were the frame shapes. Every other detail was my own. I even increased the frame spacing from 44 to 46 inches. Along with higher freeboard, a straight sheer, and a transom angle matching the 45* bow, this increased her from 44'to 48' LOA.

She's been around, from the East Coast to Guam and back.


70 posted on 03/06/2012 10:12:51 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Triple; gettinolder
PS: as you can see in the single-frame picture posted above, it's a "radius chine" with a 30" radius section between two "hard chine" panels.

I had 100 feet of plate rolled by the steel company and delivered. This shot shows the individual sections tacked in place.


71 posted on 03/06/2012 10:23:39 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: dfwgator

Bill Cosby is a very funny fellow....RIGHT?


72 posted on 03/06/2012 10:35:08 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Just because someone thinks it's a good idea doesn't make it legal.)
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To: Travis McGee

Very impressive - You must have a tremendous sense of pride in her.

(You deserve to.)

In the grand score card of accomplishments you have, at least :

Made navy SEAL
Written several novels
Built and sailed your own boat

Pretty cool.


73 posted on 03/06/2012 12:59:56 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Hardraade

It was a joke.


74 posted on 03/06/2012 1:06:09 PM PST by dangus
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To: dfwgator

cubit= 18”, long cubit 21”
72’ x 12” = 864” / 18” = 48 cubits
72’ x 12” = 864” / 21” = 41.142 long cubits
Bill Cosby says”RIGHT!”.
LOL


75 posted on 03/06/2012 1:26:30 PM PST by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO)
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To: carriage_hill

Just tell them ‘tomorrow’


76 posted on 03/06/2012 3:46:01 PM PST by thatjoeguy (MAYDAY! MAYDAY! We are so going in ! !)
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To: thatjoeguy

“Tomorrow” would mean another day of fines, I’m thinking, according to the article. “Never” would be a hard way to calculate a fine, wouldn’t it?

Just thinking out loud, t.


77 posted on 03/06/2012 3:52:38 PM PST by carriage_hill
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To: JoeProBono

Looks like an aerial of the Ark on Mt Arafat (sp?)...


78 posted on 03/06/2012 3:57:29 PM PST by carriage_hill
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To: moehoward

The scraping & re-painting chores go on forever, don’t they?


79 posted on 03/06/2012 4:00:33 PM PST by carriage_hill
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To: Triple

I was always a very driven individual, who was always driven by the beat of a different drummer, to mix metapohrs.


80 posted on 03/06/2012 4:17:19 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: muir_redwoods

Same goes for men ironing clothes, especially before the first cup of coffee while hurrying to get out the door in the morning.


81 posted on 03/06/2012 4:22:04 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Kickass Conservative
Yeah, this gentleman is in Newport. Over by the Back Bay area. Post #53 gives an aerial of his place.
From the looks of it, I'd say he's been there quite a long time. The "McMansions" have sprung up around him.

I was thinking he might be over off of Superior Ave. But no, he's definitely in NPB city.

To bad he can't get one of the 'Sea Scout' groups interested in taking this over. They have done some neat building projects. Maybe one of the groups in HB or Dana Point.
82 posted on 03/06/2012 4:44:07 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Tainan

I was born and raised in Newport Beach, there’s lots of places that look like that...

When I was kid there was a guy down the street, I think on Santa Ana Blvd, maybe, who spent many years building a huge boat like that...when it came time to move it to the harbor the city had to take down a bunch of power lines, that was cool to see!

Ed
Bayview Elementary
Kaiser Junior High
Newport Harbor High


83 posted on 03/06/2012 6:17:19 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: Tainan

“This looks more like Costa Mesa, its right next to Newport Beach. I don’t know of any section of NB that looks like that.”

Get a map, go there and look at the part NB west of Newport Blvd, extending west to the bluffs, and northward to past 19th St. It is mixed zoning with residential and commercial, including boat building, etc.


84 posted on 03/06/2012 6:24:16 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: joe fonebone

“take the city to court... he is grandfathered in ( you cannot enforce an ordinance retroactively ) he will win hands down”

I seriously doubt your read on this issue, counselor.

If what he is doing is not allowed, he has no permit, he’s sol.


85 posted on 03/06/2012 6:26:35 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

I have been in his predicament.... you cannot pass a law and enforce it retroactively... now if he was smart he would get that permit, if they denied the permit, his case would be so much stronger..


86 posted on 03/07/2012 4:09:34 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: driftdiver

Psst, the effect of misspelling “affect” is jarring, no?


87 posted on 03/07/2012 10:36:35 AM PST by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: bt_dooftlook

psst grammar nazi’s suck spoiled rotten goose eggs!!

getting that last chunk down is jarring, no?


88 posted on 03/07/2012 10:39:00 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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