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Santorum Another Trifecta in OK,TN, and ND. Ohio Too Close To Call {Should Gingrich Withdraw?]
March 06, 2012

Posted on 03/06/2012 7:21:08 PM PST by Steelfish

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To: John Valentine

Either Mitt or Rick, both lose to Obama and the GOP implodes and loses the House and the Senate.. In December a new party will be created: the Conservative Republican Party.

Newt is the ONLY hope.
He has now to win all the South states.

The North doesn’t count as it’s democrat turf anyway. Massachusetts? Pffft. Vermont? Pfffft.


51 posted on 03/06/2012 8:20:47 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
I would not have voted for Santorum. If he ends up being the nominee, he'd get my vote. Otherwise, he's my last choice.

Indeed. He is mine, too. Conservatives shoot themselves in the feet, yet again. I'd vote for Crazy Ron Paul before I'd vote for Santo.

52 posted on 03/06/2012 8:22:10 PM PST by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: Catsrus

With Romney now pulling a slight lead in OH, don’t you think these numbers could have helped stop him? Your danged right they could have! Newt - buddy - you can’t win - do the right thing and bow out - or else we will be stuck with Obama lite this November.

Gingrich

14.7%

159,353


53 posted on 03/06/2012 8:22:28 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: Catsrus

Agree, Newt needs to take one for the team and drop out now!!


54 posted on 03/06/2012 8:22:38 PM PST by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: John Valentine

Only one of these is opposed to Obamacare and publicly funded healthcare and that is Santorum.

If you sincerely believe that we must fight statism, then we have to get behind Santorum.


55 posted on 03/06/2012 8:22:38 PM PST by LeopoldvonRanke
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To: LeopoldvonRanke; Lazlo in PA; skeeter

Krauthammer just said that Gingrich’s southern strategy is a no go. He said you can’t win national elections with regional wins only.

As you correctly point out, Gingrich is placing 3rd and 4th in neighboring southern states. So even his own southern strategy is in tatters. His 7% vote in MI was a killer for Santorum. Had Romney lost in MI, Santorum would have been on a roll with all the momentum and Romney would have been toast. Once again, Gingrich is playing the role of egomaniacal spoiler in the marquee contest of Super Tuesday!. He must quit NOW and he’s being kept afloat only by the dollars of his casino mogul benefactor.


56 posted on 03/06/2012 8:23:04 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: LeopoldvonRanke

You are right - Newt’s ego is getting in the way of common sense, or else he likes being on stage - just to hear his name once in a while. Whatever his reasons - he is killing the conservative vote and now I’m getting angry with him.


57 posted on 03/06/2012 8:24:23 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: John Valentine

You can’t be even vaguely serious to think that Santorum is “cut from the same cloth” as Obama and Romney.


58 posted on 03/06/2012 8:24:51 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

We can win with Santorum, he’s matched up against Romney and faught him to a draw in MI and OH.

We need to stop fighting him with one hand tied behind our backs. We can beat Mitt, but we have to make that hard decision now.


59 posted on 03/06/2012 8:24:55 PM PST by LeopoldvonRanke
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To: John Valentine

And, Newt has been a statist on occasion as well. SO, what’s your point?


60 posted on 03/06/2012 8:25:23 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: Marguerite

He can’t and won’t win the southern states. Talk about people being delusional - good grief.


61 posted on 03/06/2012 8:27:48 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: demkicker

I am awake. Wide awake. Thus my refusal to support Santo.


62 posted on 03/06/2012 8:28:10 PM PST by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Arizona, Wyoming, and tonight Idaho.


63 posted on 03/06/2012 8:31:06 PM PST by paudio (no tagline for now...)
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To: skeeter

Santo will only get us a Dem back in the Whitehouse and dems back in the Senate and House in 2016 provided he could even win the election. Yes. Really.


64 posted on 03/06/2012 8:31:17 PM PST by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: John Valentine
Sorry, but if Gingrich drops out, I have no acceptable choices left. If this is not how the American Story is to end, then we are heading toward a national disaster of the most profound kind, a righting of course that won’t be electoral in nature.

Exactly.

65 posted on 03/06/2012 8:34:21 PM PST by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: Steelfish

No.


66 posted on 03/06/2012 8:34:51 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Catsrus

Good heavens Romney is leading Santorum by 1% of the vote in OH and some here are in denial, like they were in MI, that a Romney win in OH where he outspent Santorum by 5 to 1, is due EXCLUSIVELY because of Gingrich’s presence. This is a catastrophe fueled by one’ man’s ego to insure that he shares the spotlight. We began here “Le Resistance” to Romney, and Gingrich is acting like the fifth columnist, splitting the conservative vote, and allowing Romney to sneak through the breach.


67 posted on 03/06/2012 8:34:58 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

Newt is my first choice, Rick my second, Paul my third and Mitt my forth. At his point Newt should back away and let Rick take out Mitt. The women will not vote for Newt, our loss but that is the sad fact.

Pray for America


68 posted on 03/06/2012 8:35:49 PM PST by bray (More Batting Practice for the Bambino)
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To: Steelfish
Yes, too much Potomac water baggage
69 posted on 03/06/2012 8:36:07 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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To: VRWC For Truth; bray; georgia girl

Plainly put, Gingrich is UNELECTABLE!


70 posted on 03/06/2012 8:38:10 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: publana
Yes. Really.

In your fevered imagination.

Fortunately reality doesn't in any way resemble what you perceive it to be.

71 posted on 03/06/2012 8:38:50 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Steelfish

I vote Newt for Press Secretary.


72 posted on 03/06/2012 8:40:56 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Utah Girl

Yep. He’s a selfish self-serving so and so. He’ll take us all down with him just to prove a point. Been saying from the star he’s amoral.

Santorum 2012


73 posted on 03/06/2012 8:41:45 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: John Valentine
Are you smoking crack?

To somehow lump Santorum in with Romney is bad enough, to lump him in with Obama is insane!

Santorum is and always has been a reliable CATHOLIC Conservative. That means he is much more conservative on social issues like Life and faith and somewhat less so on welfare and social services. He is however a relatively strong fiscal conservative with very few blemishes on his record for a long term Senator in a leadership position.

Anybody in congress can have a down the line Conservative rating if they are not in a leadership position, look at the lunatic Ron Paul. If you aspire to leadership and want to get things done you have to work within the system. Gingrich had to do it, Santorum had to do it, and The SCUMBAG Romney cherry picks small worthless votes and beets them both over the head with them.

74 posted on 03/06/2012 8:45:44 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Steelfish

NO!

Newt is the only one who grasps all of the issues and thinks fast enough on his feet to be able to offset the fact that hussein will be given the debate questions ahead of time.

Neither Romney nor Santorum are mean enough to lead us now. Should one of them somehow beat hussein, they will out do Bush when it comes to turning the other cheek until the media has destroyed their ability to lead.


75 posted on 03/06/2012 8:45:44 PM PST by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: Let's Roll

You aren’t facing the realities. Gingrich is now playing ASSIST to Romney. He did so in MI and now in OH. If Romney is whom you want, then say so.


76 posted on 03/06/2012 8:48:36 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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I needed comic relief.


77 posted on 03/06/2012 8:49:37 PM PST by God'sgrrl (twitter.com/Women4Santorum)
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To: John Valentine

I agree.


78 posted on 03/06/2012 8:50:14 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Jim from C-Town
To somehow lump Santorum in with Romney is bad enough, to lump him in with Obama is insane!

I guess we should expect more of this as it becomes clear Santorum is the only alternative to Romney.

Hate to see so many here threatening to cut their nose off to spite their face, though. Its not the time to be pitching fits.

79 posted on 03/06/2012 8:53:59 PM PST by skeeter
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To: RIghtwardHo

We must stop Romney.


80 posted on 03/06/2012 9:02:16 PM PST by Mozilla (Defeat Romney first then defeat Obama)
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To: Steelfish; All; Jim Robinson
No.

Santorum would be the worst thing that ever befell the GOP.

Besides he has fewer COMMITTED delegates than Gingrich. It's all about delegates.

Anyone who believes Rick Santorum can win a general election, or even avoid a turn of the GOP House to democrats is delusional beyond belief.

He and his supporters are my political enemies.

81 posted on 03/06/2012 9:11:39 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner; All

So the voters of IA,CO,MO,TN,OK,ND, and almost half the primary voters in MI and bellweather OH are “delusional beyond belief” even though Santorum is connecting with Rust-Belt state voters and according to USA-Gallup is trailing Santorum by just 3 points.

What is the basis for your crystalline rationality? Gingrich has an unbridgeable gender gap and just as much a large divide with working women and independents, and his southern strategy is up in flames placing him a distant 3rd or 4th in TN and OK, and analysts on the Fox Panel believe his presence in MI and OH, has allowed Romney to win and gain the necessary momentum. So unless you can provide us with some rational basis for what you say, we must think that if your guy does not win, or worse, brings us Romney, and yet you conclude that the rest of us including the Santorum voters are your “political enemies”

Your illogic is inescapable.


82 posted on 03/06/2012 9:27:54 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish; All; Jim Robinson
"So the voters of IA,CO,MO,TN,OK,ND, and almost half the primary voters in MI and bellweather OH are “delusional beyond belief” "

Yes, absolutely.

This is why Romney is the certain nominee.

All Gingrich votes and all Paul votes that continue to vote...will go for Romney over Santorum.

For most Santorum is seen as the greater danger.

OK, if not all, at least 90%.

This is not advocacy, just my observation.

83 posted on 03/06/2012 9:35:16 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Steelfish

NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!


84 posted on 03/06/2012 9:39:26 PM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: Steelfish

It’s over. The split worked. Romney won.


85 posted on 03/06/2012 9:53:02 PM PST by Pinkbell (Knock Romney Out - Vote for Santorum in Ohio/Oklahoma/Tennessee and Vote for Gingrich In Georgia)
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To: Catsrus

You conveniently left out the fact that the GOP establishment (Dole, Abrams, Bush) orchestrated a co-ordinated smear of Newt during the week of the critical Florida election. Those smears were equivalent of millions of dollars in negative ads directly aimed at Republican voters who were favorable to Newt by double digits after his South Carolina blowout win.

Rick, by contrast, hasn't experienced anywhere the degree of smears by the GOP establishment because he is mostly aligned with those in Washington.
86 posted on 03/06/2012 10:18:21 PM PST by red flanker
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To: Mariner; All; Jim Robinson; Lazlo in PA; American Constitutionalist; Kenny; AmericanInTokyo; ...

Carl Cameron just said on FoxNews that the Romney camp is very happy to know that Gingrich is still in the race.

So dear Mariner, you continue to assert that all of us, Santorum voters and supporters here in FR, and respected news reporters and even the Romney camp are all “delusional beyond belief” because at this stage of the game we believe it is Gingrich who is splitting the conservative vote, his “southern strategies” is in tatters having placed third and fourth in OK and TN, he continues to undermine Le Resistance by allowing Romney to squeak through in WA, AZ, MI, and now in bellweather OH leading to an inevitable clinching of the nomination.

Santorum has won in several key states across a geographical spectrum, he’s winning blue-collar “Rust-Belt” voters that went for Obama in 2008, and you keep saying “Santorum is the greater danger.” Having campaigned vigorously and spent a bundle of his own and super-pac money in GA, Gingrich could not get to a 50% threshold in his home state of GA, and yet you say that “Santorum is the greater danger”? than Obama?

So pray tell us how do you reach this conclusion?


87 posted on 03/06/2012 10:26:25 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

So pray tell us how do you reach this conclusion?
***I think Mariner reaches that conclusion because he is a bandwagon jumper. He can’t think for himself. He waits until the leader decides and then he pushes with all his might to bully others into joining the cause, behind the leader. It’s an authoritarian personality thing. That’s why you’ve got nothing but crickets so far.


88 posted on 03/06/2012 10:36:18 PM PST by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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To: red flanker
Rick, by contrast, hasn't experienced anywhere the degree of smears by the GOP establishment because he is mostly aligned with those in Washington.

You obviously haven't payed attention to the 24/7 slams on Rick for his religious beliefs from the MSM, twisting them to fit their distorted views and the constant barrage of attack ads from Milt since MI. Romney outspent Rick 5-1 by some accounts in OH. Rick still continues to soldier on winning states (plural), picking up delegates and challenging Milt hard.

89 posted on 03/06/2012 10:41:32 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: publana
Romney is pulling a McCain, i,e, running as a conservative, but will go back to his true nature if he should win. Romney will make us suffer, and I'm not exaggerating.
90 posted on 03/06/2012 10:43:18 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: Pinkbell

No need for defeatism yet. There are a few states left that do not look good for Milt coming up. It could even out the delegate count between Rick and Milt.


91 posted on 03/06/2012 10:43:21 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Steelfish

Yes, it’s time for Newt to suspend his campaign. Very good vanity you wrote.


92 posted on 03/06/2012 10:46:04 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: Steelfish

“by allowing Romney to squeak through in WA, AZ, MI, and now in bellweather OH”

Baloney.

Santorum couldn’t even beat Ron Paul in Washington, and finished 3rd.

Newt Gingrich didn’t even campaign in Arizona, and Rick couldn’t beat Romney.

Rick blew big leads in both Michigan and Ohio by blowing debates, putting his foot in his mouth, and not getting enough signatures to field delegates. Newt barely campaigned in either.

Get a grip.


93 posted on 03/06/2012 10:47:00 PM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Steelfish
It is troublesome. The Washington Times chief reporter said that after being vanquished in Mississipi and Alabama (if it comes to that) Newt Gingrich essentially will be out. Even as it was per tonight, he stated that out of 18 contests so-far in 2012, Newt Gingrich has won only two of them, and even at that, one his home state as might be expected, and the other just in the state next to his home state(SC). He cannot seem to get the traction outside of those narrow geographic parameters in his classification as an anti-Romney. But the decision to stay in is up to Newt Gingrich, whether he continues to want to jeopardize the nomination for all conservatives and end up having Mitt Romney as the standard bearer, in which case we all suffer, or take a risk, and see if Rick Santorum can carry the fire all the way to Tampa. Maybe he needs to "take one for the team", I don't know. One does wonder.

As for the RS team, we need to continue to run lean, mean, grassroots, small-donations, a political guerilla warfare movement straight out of Sun Tzu combined with Ross Perot, George Wallace and Ronald Reagan, all different in their own regard, but each with political lessons. It can be done. Romney can be knocked off kilter, the GOP Establishment and MSM made apoplectic:


94 posted on 03/06/2012 10:49:49 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Imagine the rationalizations on FR to vote for MITT if he wins the nomination. I think I'd throw up)
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To: Steelfish

I really, really, wanted Newt to bring this home, however I am with you now, Rick is actually working his heart and soul out!!! Romney CAN NOT
win the election, so I am ready willing and very able to back Santorum!!!!
If Santorum puts a Rubio, or Newt on his ticket that would be great!!!!!
I will not vote for Romney if the Pope is on the ticket!!!!


95 posted on 03/06/2012 11:12:56 PM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Mariner

Romney can not win the General either!!!!So I say BACK Santorum and
get someone GREAT on his ticket!!! I am VERY sad I thought Newt
could pull this off but his campaign is a mess. If he can’t take the south
WE ALL need to change course!!!!


96 posted on 03/06/2012 11:22:54 PM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
Rick blew big leads in both Michigan and Ohio by blowing debates, putting his foot in his mouth, and not getting enough signatures to field delegates.

Rick did no such thing. He was outspent 10-1 in some cases by the Romney smear machine. The same one that seems to have permanently crippled Newts campaign after SC. Rick still won states, delegates and challenged Milt very closely in MI and OH.

Newt barely campaigned in either.

Right there might be Newts real trouble. His campaign is a shambles. This concept of a "Southern Strategy" that everyone has been selling here the last week was put to the test tonight. It included winning TN and OK. It failed. Now what is his plan? California. Like that is going to happen.

97 posted on 03/06/2012 11:55:59 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Steelfish
This is so true.

Through the years I've been here, I've generally thought of Freepers as level headed .....

...but some of them lately are so star struck with Newt, they have forgotten to put the good of the country ahead of their idol.......tis a pity.--
I know many here like Newt....Newt is a likeable guy.....

..unfortunately a select few will resort to name calling and bullying to get their point across.

But Rick Santorum will press on toward the goal, regardless of Newt's decision to remain.....

..It will be harder, but I believe Rick Santorum can do it!!...GO RICK!

98 posted on 03/07/2012 4:52:41 AM PST by Guenevere (....We press on.....)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I'm a very small part, and proud of it..

..I'm doing exactly what you suggest...

Donating time, money, effort, heart and prayers to this campaign....

Rick Santorum loves the hearts of grass roots America!!

99 posted on 03/07/2012 4:59:59 AM PST by Guenevere (....We press on.....)
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To: LeopoldvonRanke
With no Conservative at all in the Race, Mit received RECORD LOW NUMBERS in Virginia!

Only 1/10 of the usual number of primary voters showed up.

That's Romney's true "strength level" ~ less than 10% ~ it's only when there's competition that he gets above that.

100 posted on 03/07/2012 5:58:21 AM PST by muawiyah
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