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Posted on 03/09/2012 7:19:18 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel
SOUTH PORTLAND, Maine -- Researchers have pieced together what's believed to be the first comprehensive map of the entire 3-mile-by-5-mile Titanic debris field and hope it will provide new clues about what exactly happened the night 100 years ago when the superliner hit an iceberg, plunged to the bottom of the North Atlantic and became a legend.
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“Heart of the Ocean”
“about what exactly happened “
It hit an iceberg and sunk.....
“hope it will provide new clues about what exactly happened the night 100 years ago when the superliner hit an iceberg, plunged to the bottom of the North Atlantic and became a legend”
1. Inattention
2. Big ice cube
3. Big hole
4. Lots of dead people
What else needs knowing?
Fenway Park opened.
100 year anniversary is upcoming, and this story still fascinates the public. I think it’s a story of man’s attempt to claim perfection while being shown that there are always better ideas on the horizon.
I thought we were going to see blueprints of the White Hut.
Silly me.
They don’t know what happened YET??? I believe the ship hit an iceberg and sank. Let me know if I’m wrong here.
That's what they want you to believe. It was sunk by aliens.
A racist white iceberg hit a proud black ship on its maiden voyage.
There were also reports of sub-standard brittle Rivits and brittle steel that was used in the construction of White Star Lines RMS Titanic.
There is a theory that she was on fire and that's why she was running flat out for port. If evidence of burning is found it would tend to support this theory. There is also some speculation that she had substandard coal due to a coal strike.
Interesting theories - and new to me. I assume these would just be curiosity-appeasers? This long after, there’s no cause of action.
Bush’s fault
THE TITANIC KILLED 600 TOP OPPONENTS TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE
DW: You mentioned a mind-blowing piece of information about the Titanic.
BF: Remember a book came out a year before about a ship called the Titan that sank on its maiden voyage?
DW: That’s right!
[DW: Previously, Ben has said this book was deliberately released to “hide it out in the open.” This is a key aspect of the occult science these groups are working with. It helps them feel that we have chosen to be enslaved by them.
Technically, the book came out 14 years before the Titanic sank. You can read more at this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futility,_or_the_Wreck_of_the_Titan.]
BF: They got rid of, in one fell swoop, about 600 industrialists who were opposed to the taking over of the Fed.
JP Morgan was saying “Hey, let’s all talk about it as we cross the Atlantic.”
Of course, he missed the ship at the last moment.
They were prevented at gunpoint from boarding the lifeboats.
WOODROW WILSON’S FAMOUS QUOTE: INSPIRED BY THE TITANIC?
[DW: Fulford has also said they deliberately did not put enough lifeboats on the Titanic. The captain knowingly sabotaged the ship.
The “women and children first” principle further insured none of the Fed’s opponents would survive.
This is not merely Fulford’s assertion – other researchers have suggested the same thing.
The Titanic tragedy of April 15, 1912 apparently inspired a terrified Woodrow Wilson to print his infamous quote in a book he released the following year. (See below.)
WAS THE FEDERAL RESERVE PART OF AN APOCALYPTIC PLAN?
[DW: The Federal Reserve began operating on December 23, 1913 – with the passing of the Federal Reserve Act.
This is almost 99 years to the day before the Mayan Calendar end-date of December 21, 2012, which may have been intentional.
The Aldritch Plan may have been intended to create the Federal Reserve in 1912, but it received a fatal blow when Democrats swept the White House and Congress that November:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_reserve
Had this stunning political defeat not occurred, the Aldritch Bill may have ultimately created the Federal Reserve on the all-important date of December 21, 1912 – exactly 100 years before “the End of the World” in occult circles.
Given the cabal’s fascination with attempting to fabricate an Armageddon, as Fulford is about to discuss – as well as their love of ritual dates – such an idea is not difficult to comprehend.]
WOODROW WILSON’S QUOTE
[DW: In Woodrow Wilson’s 1913 book The New Freedom, Section 1, “The Old Order Changeth,” page 13, he said the following:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Woodrow_Wilson
“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something.
“They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”
This is only one of a series of revealing quotes at the above link that show how concerned Wilson was about the Federal Reserve.
This quote may have been triggered by Wilson having insiders tell him the Titanic disaster was used to murder 600 opponents to the Federal Reserve. In the picture below, from when the Federal Reserve debuted, Wilson looks deeply worried at best, if not terrified.]
BF: There’s a lot of stuff that’s gong to come out.
SABBATAI ZANTH – PROPHET OF DO-IT-YOURSELF ARMAGEDDON
BF: The conclusion I’ve reached, and it’s really quite mind-boggling, is [this].
The story goes back to Sabbatai Zanth, a self-described Messiah of the Jews who lived in Turkey about three hundred and some years ago.
He said he was a Messiah. It was the job of the Jews themselves to carry out the prophecies of the Torah. We shouldn’t wait for God to do it.
The sultan of Turkey had him called up and said “If you are really the Messiah, then do some miracles. If not, then convert to Islam – or else we will execute you.”
He couldn’t perform the miracles. So he pretended to convert to Islam.
Instead they worked on subverting the Turkish government from within. That was the “Young Turks”, eventually.
Futility, or the Wreck of the Titan
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
“The Wreck of the Titan” redirects here. For the Doctor Who audio drama, see The Wreck of the Titan (audio drama).
Futility, or the Wreck of the Titan is an 1898 novella written by Morgan Robertson. The story features the ocean liner Titan, which sinks in the North Atlantic after striking an iceberg. The Titan and its sinking have been noted to be very similar to the real-life passenger ship RMS Titanic, which sank fourteen years later.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futility,_or_the_Wreck_of_the_Titan.]
Interesting since the company that won salvage rights to the wreck and has put on a touring exhibition of recovered artifacts sells pieces of coal recovered from the debris field at this show. Here is a link to the online store for coal. http://www.thetitanicstore.com/browse.cfm/titanic-authentic-coal/2,2.html
Federal Reserve conspiracy PING
What do you bet this was tax payers money pissed away.
Out of the 1514 people killed on the Titanic, 693 of them were the crew. That leaves 821. Of those, 141 were Third Class women and children--not exactly likely to be industrialists. That leaves 680. By that claim, then, almost 90 percent of the men, women and chldren from First and Second Class, plus the men from Third Class, were industrialists.
Metaphorically speaking:
February, even with a leap year, is the shortest month of the year. This February we ran up some amazing numbers. Unfortunately, the shortest month gave us one of the largest injuries to the economy.
What was it?
In February, the shortest month of the year, the Federal Government rang up the largest budget deficit in our history. In February, the deficit was $229 billion dollars.
These numbers have gotten to the point where they no longer faze anyone. We have become numb to them. We are now like the passengers on the Titanic, looking at the stern rising up into the air and starting to realize, as actor David Warner said in the movie “Titanic,” “you know, I do believe this ship may sink.”
Let’s put this in perspective. The Republicans lost control of the House and Senate in 2007. The last budget that was passed by a Republican Congress and signed by a Republican President was the fiscal year 2007 budget. When that budget year closed, our deficit was $161 billion.
Just in case we have forgotten, the last time the Republicans controlled Congress, unemployment was at 4.6 percent. In January 2007, the average price of regular gas was $2.18 a gallon.
Today we are burning through other people’s money at an unbelievable rate.
There is a reason for this. Obama and his cronies are hard-core socialists (or Marxists if you prefer). They have one objective. They want to destroy the free market system and replace it with the dictatorship of the proletariat.
The problem with what Obama wants to do is there are certain inevitable results. Socialism generates tyranny, poverty and far to often mass murder. The leading mass murderers of the last century were all socialists (with an honorable mention to the Turks for the Armenian genocide). Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot were all socialists.
Unfortunately Obama, Pelosi and Reid are all enamored with an ideology that in the last century, either directly or indirectly has killed probably a billion people.
The deficits Obama and the Democrats are running are worse every month. Anyone with two functioning brain cells should be able to figure out the end result here. We will have a national economic collapse. America is not too big to fail and the policies of Barack Obama and the Party of Treason are not simply wrong. They have one specific objective.
They want to destroy the American economy.
If the American economy is destroyed, they can remake America in to the kind of socialist hellhole that they think we should be.
The problem with socialism is not as Margaret Thatcher said that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money. The problem with socialism is that in order to implement socialism, freedom and liberty must be destroyed.
America is the greatest, freest nation on the earth.
Unfortunately for Americans, we are like those passengers on the Titanic. If Obama and his party of socialists, American liberty will sink like the Titanic.
And unfortunately for Americans, like the Titanic, there will be no lifeboats for us. There will be no place left where the lamp of liberty still shines and where freedom rings.
It wasn't 600, obviously. But top industrialists and other wealthy men who were against Morgan and the Fed were indeed on the ship, and Morgan did cancel.
In the wheels-within-wheels category, the reason putting them on a sinking ship may have been chosen for their deaths (never an easy thing to do against the super-wealthy, let alone a bunch of them at the same time), is that the Wealthy Industrialist Cabal was already generally aware of the fact that the Titanic was going to be sunk anyway.
There's a lot of evidence that Titanic's sister ship, the Olympic, was fatally damaged in a previous human error NY Port collision that would NOT be covered by insurance, and which would scrap the ship - and bankrupt White Star Lines. So, after bringing it carefully, and slowly, across the Atlantic, it was put into the yard alongside the almost completed - and nearly identical - Titanic, and the names were swapped.
The "Olympic" was thereby re-created out of the new Titanic, and the "Titanic" was actually the damaged Olympic. The only thing left was to get rid of the damaged Olympic/Titanic. So an experience captain was brought out of near retirement for the "maiden voyage" and promptly ordered full speed through a known ice field at night, while he got drunk and went to sleep, waiting for the inevitable collision (probably to be made inevitable by a deck officer in on it).
Ironically, it was the high caliber of the watch that killed the ship by warning it too soon. Instead of hitting the berg head-on, which would have collapsed the forward holds but NOT sunk the ship, the side-swipe ripped open a long gash that enabled enough holds to fill with water that the weight distribution of the ship shifted, tilting it and filling ever more holds, and dooming it.
So the careful plan of cashing in the insurance (act of God instead of negligence) worked, but the claim of "unsinkability" was lost. And of course, knowing they were going to do this, putting the anti-Fed industrialists on board to drown was the icing on the cake. Which was itself duly covered up by being shocked, shocked I say, that there weren't enough lifeboats, and then passing laws requiring them in the future, and praising themselves for, of all things, looking out for people's safety.
And you wonder who's behind Obama? LOL!
"The Titanic shouldn't be destroyed because people happen to have a fat-enough checkbook that allows them to go there and dismantle it." ~ Robert D. Ballard
But the claim is that all the parts recovered from Titanic were for ship 401, not 400.
Olympic 400 was not scrapped until 1935, 23 years after the Titanic sinking. That’s a long time to keep such a secret.
Olympic had at least two accidents, with that captain at the helm of at least one, IIRC. The collision with the warship and then she ran over a wreck and lost a prop blade.
http://natgeotv.com/ca/bob-ballard-special/about
**In 1985, Dr. Robert Ballard stunned the world when he discovered the Titanic more than two miles down in the Atlantic. Few knew that when he found the great ship, Ballard was on a secret mission for the United States Navy. The Navy had sent Ballard, not to hunt Titanic, but to investigate two other deep-sea tragedies: top-secret American nuclear submarines lost in the Cold War's darkest days.
** Dr. Ballard discloses the details of those missions, how he got the Navy to agree to let him search for Titanic and how his work examining two sunken subs - the Thresher and the Scorpion - gave him the crucial knowledge he needed to find the lost ship.**
Right, so your argument is that this critical body of opponents to the federal reserve were all somehow compelled to book passage on the Titanic. How did that work?
Here's a clue.....IT HIT AN ICEBERG!!!
That would make sense. Would seem like appropriate work for them to do.
I remember reading about the Glomar Explorer as a kid (if I got the name correctly) in whatever magazine they put the article in. It came off as so much nonsense.
Which, of course, it was. I can’t believe they thought anyone would take it seriously.
No, as any liberal can tell you, it was George Bushes fault!
About halfway down this Nova transcript is Bobby Ballard’s account, pretty much as I remember of how he tells it; with references to the Glomar Explorer.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2602subsecrets.html
It was sunk by the Jews.....Iceberg, Goldberg, Greenberg, what’s the difference?
In the simplest and most obvious possible way - the cover story for a group of highly influential men to get together and discuss this issue without the public taking any notice of the fact that they were doing it. The press would be all over any meeting of these people for any reason - anywhere else. You have to remember, the Federal Reserve was finally created in absolute secrecy, literally out on an island.
But on a ship, they could sit and talk for days and hash things out amongst themselves, in full view of other passengers, and all anyone would think was that they were simply sticking together due to their ultra first-class status. And that's probably exactly what Morgan pitched to them, too - before he bailed at the last minute and the ship sailed off without him - but with all of THEM already stuck on board.
Aaah, more pieces of the puzzle, thank you.
May I inquire as to where you found this info from???
I assume you’re going to get to the Illuminati and Jesuit aspects of this conspiracy theory, too, right?
Like everything else, from all over the place. There's "Titanic - The Ship That Never Sank", by Robin Gardner. There's The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve" by G. Edward Griffin. There's all sorts of things about Morgan (read how the sadistic bastard treated Tesla).
And the Web, of course. In fact, searching the above books as they are referenced in web articles is a good start.
As astounding as the Olympic-Titanic name swap appears (just think of the audacity), it does bear up under scrutiny. Subtle things like the numbers of portholes, the extend of external promenade coverings, and the placement of external shear lines are clearly evident in comparison photos. And I read that now they've found eveidence of different letters etched in the steel of the submerged "Titanic" where the name letters have dropped off.
The important thing to remember, I think, is that the people who did this are the same people who created entire wars for profit and social control. Whacking a ship in order to murder renegades within their ranks in order to gain control over America's financial system was probably so trivial to them, that they had assistants handle it.
What's chilling is that the same mindset still controls the same "elites" today.
Well Illuminati is easy, as they were all Illuminati. Jesuits are harder - but then they always are, aren't they? ; )
Probably would have to go into alternate Vatican II interpretations. A little duct tape, some glue, and, yeah, I think I could do it. /s
Oh dear.
“There’s a lot of evidence that Titanic’s sister ship, the Olympic, was fatally damaged in a previous human error NY Port collision that would NOT be covered by insurance, and which would scrap the ship - and bankrupt White Star Lines. So, after bringing it carefully, and slowly, across the Atlantic, it was put into the yard alongside the almost completed - and nearly identical - Titanic, and the names were swapped.”
It was not “fatally” damaged. Otherwise it would’ve never made it across the Atlantic. And since when was it in an accident in New York *before* the Titanic?
‘So an experience captain was brought out of near retirement for the “maiden voyage” and promptly ordered full speed through a known ice field at night, while he got drunk and went to sleep, waiting for the inevitable collision (probably to be made inevitable by a deck officer in on it).’
Neither of which, it turns out according to latest research, was unusual (despite the myth). Nor am I aware Capt. Smith was “drunk”. I’m sure Smith really wanted to risk dying on his last voyage.
“Ironically, it was the high caliber of the watch that killed the ship by warning it too soon. Instead of hitting the berg head-on, which would have collapsed the forward holds but NOT sunk the ship, the side-swipe ripped open a long gash that enabled enough holds to fill with water that the weight distribution of the ship shifted, tilting it and filling ever more holds, and dooming it.”
But it wasn’t a long gash (old assumption myth) - it was a series of holes and apparently lower-quality rivets popped open from there.
Thanks, I never read that book but I do know what you are saying about the “Elites”.
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I think the coal bin fire is considered fact. the question related I have seen is if the bulkhead was weakened and gave way under water pressure early on (don’t recall compartment numbers but the location makes this a possibility for a 5th compartment flood cause, iirc).
The rivet theory is interesting, but given the stress when the ship hit bottom, not sure how it could ever be established.
Unfortunately, it seems likely it will never be known exactly how the iceberg opened 5 compartments to the sea. The underground forward hull imaging didn’t show anything big enough to be visible there, iirc.
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