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Moncktonís Schenectady showdown
WUWT ^ | March 10, 2012 | Justin Pulliam

Posted on 03/12/2012 8:31:51 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy

Schenectady, NY - THE NEWS that Lord Monckton was to give his “Climate of Freedom” lecture at Union College in Schenectady, New York, had thrown the university’s environmentalists into a turmoil. The campus environmentalists set up a Facebook page announcing a counter-meeting of their own immediately following Monckton’s lecture. There is no debate about global warming, they announced. There is a consensus. The science is settled. Their meeting would be addressed by professors and PhDs, the “true” scientists, no less. Sparks, it seemed, were gonna fly.

Traveling with Lord Monckton on the East Coast leg of his current whistle-stop tour of the US and Canada, I was looking forward to documenting the Schenectady showdown. I have had the pleasure of listening to His Lordship at previous campus events. He is at his best when confronted by a hostile audience. The angrier and more indignant they are, the more he seems to like it....

As they filed in, Lord Monckton was chatting contentedly to a quaveringly bossy woman with messy blonde hair who was head of the college environmental faction. Her group had set up a table at the door of the auditorium, covered in slogans scribbled on messy bits of recycled burger boxes held together with duct tape (Re-Use Cardboard Now And Save The Planet). “There’s a CONSENSUS!” she shrieked.

(Excerpt) Read more at wattsupwiththat.com ...


TOPICS: Education; Local News; Science
KEYWORDS: climategate; constitution; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; monckton; reason; unioncollege
Lots of good data in the article. We are fortunate to have Monckton doing this tour and confronting the young brains filled with mush.


1 posted on 03/12/2012 8:31:56 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: Upstate NY Guy

Consensus is not science.


2 posted on 03/12/2012 8:40:13 AM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

True and her’s another article:

Temperatures have been dropping since 2005, and are the coldest now in the last seventeen years. Game over for alarmists, based on their own rules.

11-11-03

LIVERMORE, Calif. — In order to separate human-caused global warming from the “noise” of purely natural climate fluctuations, temperature records must be at least 17 years long, according to climate scientists.

To address criticism of the reliability of thermometer records of surface warming, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory scientists analyzed satellite measurements of the temperature of the lower troposphere (the region of the atmosphere from the surface to roughly five miles above) and saw a clear signal of human-induced warming of the planet.

Linm to full article with graphs and charts: http://www.real-science.com/warming-17-years


3 posted on 03/12/2012 8:40:47 AM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: Upstate NY Guy

From the picture, the student sow is well insulated and thus should not fear either temperature change or a lack of food.

Thus, I conclude she fears a change in the grant flow.

Therefore, she is a GimmiePig. These swine are found in dangerously large herds and can be found on nearly all of America’s campuses.


4 posted on 03/12/2012 8:46:26 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: GladesGuru

Member of the FSA (Free “Stuff” Army).


5 posted on 03/12/2012 8:53:02 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: GladesGuru

LOL !


6 posted on 03/12/2012 8:55:56 AM PDT by tomkat (FU.baraq)
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To: MeganC
Consensus is not science.

Elaborated by Michael Crichton:

In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus. There is no such thing as consensus science. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.

7 posted on 03/12/2012 8:58:37 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: MeganC
Consensus is not science.

Indeed, and there is no consensus either.

8 posted on 03/12/2012 8:59:23 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Upstate NY Guy

Why can’t we have a conservative leader as articulate and knowledgeable at the good lord?

If a reporter tried to Palinize him to look like an idiot, the lord would eviscerate him on camera. WF Buckley did the same on a regular basis. Why are we now stuck with those who can’t do this?


9 posted on 03/12/2012 9:00:09 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: GladesGuru
Could be. It is also possible she has a political motivation and is not involved with science and research grants at all. A lot of these enviromental wackos are humanities majors.
10 posted on 03/12/2012 9:00:09 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: GladesGuru

Oh, but mummy and daddy are so proud. their baby is so smart, studying sociology - and she’s such a committed, compassionate activist!!!


11 posted on 03/12/2012 9:01:52 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: DuncanWaring

Thanks for the quote and the link.


12 posted on 03/12/2012 9:02:21 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: Upstate NY Guy

The lefties are getting all wee-weed up again.


13 posted on 03/12/2012 9:06:05 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: Upstate NY Guy
Brilliant....

Lord Monckton’s reply was moving. Gently, and sadly, he said, “We shall lose the West unless we can restore the use of reason to pre-eminence in our institutions of what was once learning. It was the age of reason that built the West and made it prosperous and free. The age of reason gave you your great Constitution of liberty. It is the power of reason, the second of the three great powers of the soul in Christian theology, that marks our species out from the rest of the visible creation, and makes us closest to the image and likeness of our Creator. I cannot stand by and let the forces of darkness drive us unprotesting into a new Dark Age.”

14 posted on 03/12/2012 9:06:05 AM PDT by freebilly (Obama Sings While America Sinks....)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

You’re welcome.


15 posted on 03/12/2012 9:08:25 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: GladesGuru

Hey, now, what the hell are you talking about? That kind of mean-spiritedness is simply uncalled for! Absurd! I’m afraid I must disagree with you...

...That girl is NOT fat!


16 posted on 03/12/2012 9:14:40 AM PDT by Mťabh
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To: Upstate NY Guy

The gal looks like a typical leftist—doesn’t own a bottle of shampoo.


17 posted on 03/12/2012 9:15:02 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Sherman Logan
...would eviscerate him on camera. WF Buckley did the same on a regular basis. Why are we now stuck with those who can’t do this?

Newt does it well.

18 posted on 03/12/2012 9:46:57 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: Upstate NY Guy

And we are still waiting for Algore to go into a hostile setting like Lord Monckton regularly does. Nevermind that he will never debate the good Lord. That alone should raise doubts amongst the green weenies as to the veracity of their beliefs when their lord high god Algore won’t debate the subject. He should be glad to tear into the anti global warming heretics, should he not? It should be easy for him to disprove what they say, right????


19 posted on 03/12/2012 9:49:35 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Upstate NY Guy; freebilly
Although 'freebilly' has quoted it already, it is worth repeating in a number of places, for Lord Moncton's response to the writer of the article summarizes the genius of America's founding.

"Lord Monckton’s reply was moving. Gently, and sadly, he said, “We shall lose the West unless we can restore the use of reason to pre-eminence in our institutions of what was once learning. It was the age of reason that built the West and made it prosperous and free. The age of reason gave you your great Constitution of liberty. It is the power of reason, the second of the three great powers of the soul in Christian theology, that marks our species out from the rest of the visible creation, and makes us closest to the image and likeness of our Creator. I cannot stand by and let the forces of darkness drive us unprotesting into a new Dark Age.” - (Justin Pulliam is the Northeast Regional Field Coordinator for CampusReform.org. He graduated Cum Laude with University Honors from Texas A&M University in December 2011, where he led the local Collegians for a Constructive Tomorrow Chapter. He can be reached at justinpulliam@gmail.com.)

Here, in America, in just a little moment of time, on one small sliver of land on the globe, a few Creator-endowed individuals, possessing the gift of reason, and utilizing the recorded ideas of history's most enlightened thinkers, created a document which made it possible for the light of liberty to change the world for over 200 years.

In an April 1859 letter to Messrs. Henry Pierce & Others, Abraham Lincoln's final paragraph:

"All honor to Jefferson--to the man who, in the concrete pressure of a struggle for national independence by a single people, had the coolness, forecast, and capacity to introduce into a merely revolutionary document, an abstract truth, applicable to all men and all times, and so to embalm it there, that to-day, and in all coming days, it shall be a rebuke and a stumbling-block to the very harbingers of re-appearing tyranny and oppression."

Finally, Thomas Jefferson's last letter, prior to his death on July 4, 1826, declared:

"May it [the Declaration of Independence] be to the world, what I believe it will be, (to some parts sooner, to others later, but finally to all,) the signal of arousing men to burst the chains under which monkish ignorance and superstition had persuaded them to bind themselves, and to assume the blessings and security of self-government. That form which we have substituted, restores the free right to the unbounded exercise of reason and freedom of opinion. All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately, by the grace of God. These are grounds of hope for others. For ourselves, let the annual return of this day [July 4th] forever refresh our recollections of these rights, and an undiminished devotion to them. . . ." – Thomas Jefferson, letter to Roger C Weightman, June 24, 1826

20 posted on 03/12/2012 10:08:36 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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ping


21 posted on 03/12/2012 10:17:45 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

bump for later


22 posted on 03/12/2012 10:25:19 AM PDT by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: Sherman Logan

“Why can’t we have a conservative leader as articulate and knowledgeable at the good lord?”

We do, his name is Newton Gingrich.

He is not infallible but he right 9 times out of 10 and his knowledge of history and conservatism is unmatched. He also, like Lord Monckton and the late Andrew Breitbart, knows the enemy and knows how to reveal their weak grasp of the facts.


23 posted on 03/12/2012 10:29:16 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
...still waiting for Algore ... to debate...

Don't hold your breath.

24 posted on 03/12/2012 10:32:32 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: Upstate NY Guy
Don't hold your breath."

Zactly!! You see, I'm just a dumb old jarhead so I like things broken down in simple terms. Simply put, when the lord high priest of the environmental movement (Algore) is not willing to debate his opposition, that tells me right there that something is wrong. It should also signal all his "brilliant" followers to the same thing...
25 posted on 03/12/2012 10:41:29 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: loveliberty2; freebilly
Isn't it interesting that an English Lord and Jefferson are on the same page?

Monckton, a member of British nobility, recognizes that our founding documents and the cause of liberty are a gift to the world. And the young brains full of mush at Union College, who are the beneficiaries of liberty, are trying to push us into a totalitarian, collectivist society.

26 posted on 03/12/2012 10:45:09 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost; All

Was curious. I note that Lord Monckton addressed the US House in 2010, after which there was a ‘rebuttal’ by climate scientists:

Climate Scientists Respond
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Monckton-response.pdf

In this rebuttal, they claim to rebut Lord Monckton, although they never seem to get to the Vostok core samples (among other things)

Has anyone seen a rebuttal to the rebuttal?

Thanks!


27 posted on 03/12/2012 11:11:19 AM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping! Hope you’re OK - don’t miss this one - Lord Christopher Monckton at his best! ;-)


28 posted on 03/12/2012 11:39:10 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Méabh

“Hey, now, what the hell are you talking about? That kind of mean-spiritedness is simply uncalled for! Absurd! I’m afraid I must disagree with you...

...That girl is NOT fat!”

Would

I assume “porcine” might not pass scrutney, but would “well upholstered” be acceptable?

;-)


29 posted on 03/12/2012 11:50:31 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: loveliberty2

Thanks for the Jefferson quotes. America has never been in more need of a Jefferson as it is today....


30 posted on 03/12/2012 11:55:08 AM PDT by freebilly (Obama Sings While America Sinks....)
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To: Tunehead54; steelyourfaith; Upstate NY Guy
Article on same event although its kind of hard to tell ... ;-)

Lord Monckton fuels global warming debate

31 posted on 03/12/2012 12:01:21 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: DuncanWaring

Awesome quote! Thank you!


32 posted on 03/12/2012 1:13:57 PM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: MeganC

You’re welcome.


33 posted on 03/12/2012 1:38:39 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Upstate NY Guy
...still waiting for Algore ... to debate... Don't hold your breath.

He's getting his G spot massaged at the moment. Might take a bit for the all knowing the Goreacle to respond. (BTW. Don't look behind the curtain.)

34 posted on 03/12/2012 6:57:50 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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