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Posted on 03/14/2012 3:45:18 PM PDT by Melas

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To: colonialhk

North County (San Diego) Coastal for sure. Particularly Encinitas.


51 posted on 03/14/2012 4:41:01 PM PDT by Pru
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To: Melas

A couple of decades ago I lived in the Santa Ynez Valley, in the mountains above Santa Barbara. Yes, Michael Jackson’s Neverland Ranch is/was located there, but most of the towns in this valley, at least when I lived there, were VERY conservative. Santa Barbara and Goleta are nearby....Goleta has all the big box stores, such as Costco, Sam’s Club, etc. etc. Nice weather in the Santa Ynez Valley, and lots of vineyards. I lived in Solvang.....a slice of Denmark in small town California.

Texas, as you know, has no state income tax. California has a high income tax and will most likely go even higher in the near future. From what I heard, Santa Barbara has a large TEA Party contingent, in spite of being a rather liberal city.


52 posted on 03/14/2012 4:46:36 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm NOT smitten' with Mittens)
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To: Melas

Tell her hanks for leaving Texas for me.


53 posted on 03/14/2012 4:47:22 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Now I do dig the architecture in Santa Barbara. I love that Spanish style with the clay tiled roofs


54 posted on 03/14/2012 4:49:57 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

Placer County, just outside Sacramento is heavily republican, has low crime and thanks to the market crash, very affordable housing. HP and Intel are close by if you are a high tech guy.

Cheers,

knewshound


55 posted on 03/14/2012 4:51:23 PM PDT by knews_hound (Credo Quia Absurdium--take nothing seriously unless it is absurd. E. Clampus Vitus)
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To: Melas

Go for the Tahoe area. You have your share of Pacific Northwest-style vistas, and you’ll find the Reno / Tahoe area more conservative than most. BONUS: if you live on the Nevada side, there is no state income tax.


56 posted on 03/14/2012 4:51:51 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Melas

Oceanside is nice. Big military presence with Pendleton right next door. Great weather.


57 posted on 03/14/2012 4:52:01 PM PDT by randita
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To: DainBramage

Your name was aptly chosen. Thank you so much for polluting my request for help with your ever so classy reply.


58 posted on 03/14/2012 4:52:45 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas
my wife has decided that she's getting out of Texas, with or without me. She's listed California

Our good friends left CA and went to Ohio where they could buy 36 acres cheap....3 years later? They are in the process of selling and coming back to CA. They found out frigged temps, snow, ice, mud, and hot sweltering humid summers, ticks, flies and bugs were just not for them. They said the people were nice enough, but felt like they were on the set of Heehaw.

Try CA high deserts, the coastal plain if you can afford it, or even northern CA, near Redding etc.

BTW, I wouldn't live in Texas if ya paid me to. Been there done that. The dripping heat and humidity of the summers was just plain brutal. Life is too short for that.

Good luck!

59 posted on 03/14/2012 4:55:11 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Stormdog

Thanks Dog.


61 posted on 03/14/2012 4:59:58 PM PDT by massatoosits
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To: Melas; Jim Robinson
Sigh...to make a long story short, my wife has decided that she's getting out of Texas, with or without me.

She's listed California, Oregon and Washington as possible places where she'd like to relocate. Well, I'm allergic to the cold, so that leaves California.

Any input on possible locations in California where she can "Escape the redneck mentality" and I can still live around semi-sane individuals?

Jim, how's Fresno? Got any room next door?

Cheers!

62 posted on 03/14/2012 5:01:41 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Melas
Nah, she’s the love of my life. I’d follow her to Hell and back.

Sounds like you already have the "follow her TO..." part down pat.

Cheers!

63 posted on 03/14/2012 5:02:42 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Melas
Nah, she’s the love of my life. I’d follow her to Hell and back.

Sounds like you already have the "follow her TO..." part down pat.

Cheers!

64 posted on 03/14/2012 5:02:51 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: dragonblustar; Melas
Consider Phoenix.

"It's a dry heat."

And Sarah Palin has a house in North Scottsdale...

Cheers!

65 posted on 03/14/2012 5:04:49 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: dragonblustar; Melas
Consider Phoenix.

"It's a dry heat."

And Sarah Palin has a house in North Scottsdale...

Cheers!

66 posted on 03/14/2012 5:04:59 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: DainBramage
It's a sad fact that most people who can't stand those around them never figure out that THEY are the problem.

Oops, I guess my "redneck mentality" is showing as well. LOL!!!

I'm sure she will be much happier surrounded by hippies and out-of-work, pot-smoking, college grads living on the tax-payer's bill.
67 posted on 03/14/2012 5:06:05 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Melas

I second the votes here for North County, San Diego and Ventura County if you are looking at Southern Calif., and for Placer County near Sacramento — quite hot in the summer, however. There are other scenic areas outside Sacramento such as Auburn. You might also consider North of SF in Sonoma County — beautiful country but extremely liberal. To generalize: the closer you get to the coast the more liberal it gets. Good luck in your search.


68 posted on 03/14/2012 5:08:25 PM PDT by whinecountry (Semper Ubi Sub Ubi)
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To: Melas

BTW it isnt well thought out to leave a place with no alimony laws to go to one with very vigorous alimony laws while ones wife is threatening to leave. JMO


69 posted on 03/14/2012 5:10:11 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Melas

Sent you PM. Look at Amador, Calaveras and Tuolumne counties—north/central Calif.


70 posted on 03/14/2012 5:11:44 PM PDT by amazed
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To: dragonblustar; Melas
The weather there is nice. Now.

Click for Hell, Michigan Forecast

71 posted on 03/14/2012 5:12:37 PM PDT by magslinger (If I wanted to vote for a Commie I would vote for Obammie. He has a chance of winning.)
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To: Melas

Since they are trying to give CA back to the Mexicans, (I know, I still live here.)why just move to Mexico, if you can find a safe locale.

Taxes can’t be any worse than here.


72 posted on 03/14/2012 5:13:34 PM PDT by wizr (Keep the Faith, no matter what. "Worry is practical atheism." - Robert Mounce)
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To: Melas; DainBramage
Texas is full of these types...Ya mention ya want to leave or move away from Texas for whatever reason, and ya get this?

No problem, its my ‘redneck mentality’ assshole.

Nice huh?

Don't worry about these guys, as they are likely miserable themselves and are in no mood to be left behind. Many are simply jealous of CA, even with the political morons currently running the show. It's always been like this.

Ya seem them lined up by the tens of thousands during the Rose Parade, when it's 73 degrees in January, as they escape their frozen, frigged icy enclaves.

73 posted on 03/14/2012 5:14:05 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Melas

Is she aware that judges (and later maybe everyone) need to register their sexuality with the state?

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/03/sexuality_no_longer_a_private_matter_in_california.html


74 posted on 03/14/2012 5:16:05 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: dragnet2

Uhmmm he calls me and my family rednecks because his wife isnt happy with him or this state and Im the problem? Funny stuff...


75 posted on 03/14/2012 5:24:11 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Melas
I escaoed Calif. six years ago, no way I would move back. The huge hit on property and sales tax along with the degenerate culture would prevent any thought of that.

Not all of Wash. and Ore. are cold and rainy. Think the eastern area are drier. Rather some rural hill country than the liberal urban areas, of course.

What is the deal with Rednecks? I lived next door to San Fernando Valley whitetrash in SoCal, cannot be worse than Texans. Have to remember a lot of more affordable areas in Calif. are populated by descendants of the Okie Dust Bowl era, and are quite trashy and redneck.

76 posted on 03/14/2012 5:26:11 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Melas

I agree. Santa Barbara IS beautiful. I haven’t seen it in 20 years....I live in Maine now. Another state with high income taxes. And cold winters, unlike southern California.

Santa Barbara didn’t always have the Spanish-style architecture. It once had a mish-mash of Western style false front buildings and numerous other buildings of little architectural note in the downtown business district.
Mother Nature put an end to them on June 29, 1925 just before dawn. A shallow, 6.3 earthquake hit the city.....almost identical to the quake that hit Christchurch, New Zealand last year. The business district and many other areas of the city were in ruins. The city fathers decided to honor the city’s old Spain heritage when the rebuilding got underway, and that why there are so many stucco buildings with the orange clay tile roofs in Santa Barbara.

I’ve heard that real estate in Santa Barbara has dropped in price because of the recession and real estate crash. As I mentioned in my previous post, Santa Barbara has a liberal bent, but the mountains above the city.....the Santa Ynez Valley.....struck me as being very conservative when I lived there.


78 posted on 03/14/2012 5:27:15 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm NOT smitten' with Mittens)
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To: Melas

Last year I got a shotgun and a good hunting dog for my wife, pretty good trade.


79 posted on 03/14/2012 5:30:41 PM PDT by IAGeezer912 (Carpe Diem, Per Diem, Doris Diem)
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To: Melas

I live in the Los Gatos-Saratoga-Campbell area. Surrounded by mountains, half an hour from the beach. Not as rabidly leftist as SF, LA, or Santa Cruz. Nice weather, unless you live for rain and chilliness, like I do. I am only still here for my parents’ sake, when I moved back from GA, I wanted to go to Washington. I just consider myself still an honorary Georgian politically, since there is no hope for any conservative until the state finally collapses.


80 posted on 03/14/2012 5:31:02 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Lazamataz for president!! NO MORE RINOS!!)
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To: Melas

My brother is a huge biker. My house backs up on a wonderful bike trail that goes up into the mountains to a reservoir.


81 posted on 03/14/2012 5:33:34 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Lazamataz for president!! NO MORE RINOS!!)
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To: DainBramage; Melas
Uhmmm he calls me and my family rednecks because his wife isnt happy with him or this state and Im the problem?

I live in CA and consider myself a redneck, west coast style, and I have no problem with the term redneck. It's no big deal nor reason to call someone an AH, IMO.

I have more of an issue with thin skinned people, who are easily offended.

83 posted on 03/14/2012 5:35:08 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Melas

Julian up in the mountains an hour out of San Diego used to be a nice place.

However, it’s still not high enough and far too easy to reach by far too many millions including Mexicans and Chinese troops coming through Mexico.


84 posted on 03/14/2012 5:37:26 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: wizr

...why NOT just move to Mexico...

Or maybe the Caribbean, or Central or South America. Ain’t none a us rednecks there, I don’ think.


85 posted on 03/14/2012 5:37:44 PM PDT by wizr (Keep the Faith, no matter what. "Worry is practical atheism." - Robert Mounce)
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To: Melas

Hi, Melas ...

A good exercise might be for you and your wife to each separately complete the “Find Your Best Place” section of the “Best Places to Live” website at http://www.bestplaces.net/.

I believe you can limit your search to only the states you are interested in (if not, simply look at the cities in California, Oregon and Washington that are returned).

Afterwards, find the places that appear on both of your lists and consider those first.

On another note, if you decide you may be interested anywhere in San Diego County or Southwest Riverside County (cities of Temecula and Murrieta), send me a private email. As a former residential real estate appraiser I oversaw about 5,000 appraisals in the region and I know it well. There are definitely quality areas that are reasonable for conservatives to consider (even if the state, as a whole, is a mess).

Lastly, I respect that you put your family first. Even though others bring up valid points here about California, nothing can take trump being with the ones we love.

Best wishes ...


86 posted on 03/14/2012 5:39:42 PM PDT by To Lurk or Not to Lurk
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To: Melas
Depends on what you need...

Plenty of great areas to live in CA....Depends on your money, your job, and your wants as far as weather.

Of course you know that CA is a liberal cess pool. Does your wife understand this?

I'd give you some of my top spots there....but, it all depends on what you need...and want.

87 posted on 03/14/2012 5:40:06 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: Melas

If you’re serious about moving here from Texas then you’re a fool for the following reason:
1. You’re following your wife rather her following you, she may not say it now but her respect for you has been lost as you’ve given up your leadership position.
2. The laws in CA are unbelievably bad and invasive. Remember to register your guns within 15 days of moving here or you’ll be up for some serious charges if they catch you. Also if you have any of those evil high cap magazines or assault rifles leave them at the CA border or sell them before you leave Texas.
3. Be aware that in Texas if she decides to divorce you you’re only on the hook for 3 years (max) alimony but in CA it’s for life (not saying but once they loose respect for you things happen).
4. The state is run by a bunch of looney tunes that next year will most likely have a super majority that will enable them to ram through any and all tax increases making this state even more unfordable to live in.
5 Unemployment is running at 12% officially and closer to 20% unofficially so if you’re looking for a job forget about it. If you’re thinking about opening a business think again, the regulations will bury you and the overhead cost are through the roof.

That said if you still insist on moving here my advise is to stay as close to the coast as possible. If you like the sprawling city type life then most parts of Orange County or down in San Diego are good places to live (if you can afford it as while prices have come down they are still way out there and over $1M is typical). If you like the rural life then Santa Barbra and the areas around there are great places to live, again not cheap but you are paying for the great weather. Don’t go too rural or you’ll end up back in “red-neck” country even here in CA so stay close to the coast and you’ll be neck deep in soy milk latte sipping liberal s$%theads with a few decent folks sprinkled around.

Two things keep me here right now, a high paying job and family. If I loose either one I’m bolting for Texas so if you’re interested in a 1950’s shack close to the coast for $600k come talk to me.


88 posted on 03/14/2012 5:40:42 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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Santa Barbara has a reputation for being extremely snooty, elitist, clanish . . . exclusionist . . . virtually impossible for new comers to break into in any significant way . . . except for with other newcomers.

Also—not a high enough elevation and too close to the coast.


89 posted on 03/14/2012 5:41:17 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: JennysCool

Besides having a ring side seat for the nearby volcanoes going berserk.


90 posted on 03/14/2012 5:42:20 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: DainBramage

BTW it isnt well thought out to leave a place with no alimony laws to go to one with very vigorous alimony laws while ones wife is threatening to leave. JMO


INDEED.

And the one who NEEDS THE RELATIONSHIP LEAST

IS

in !CONTROL! of the relationship.

And she’s already on record as caring less for the relationship than where she lives.

Not a good sign, imho.


91 posted on 03/14/2012 5:44:55 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Melas

Orange County, near the ocean—Huntington Beach, Newport Beach, Sunset Beach, Seal Beach, Laguna Beach, Dana Point, Corona del Mar, all are wonderful. It’s like living in paradise temperature-wise, but with more people. She’ll love it. I’ve heard San Diego County is good, too. If you go inland you’ll have to deal with hotter temperatures but it’s not too bad and it always cools down at night.

I was born in Houston and we left when I was three and I STILL remember how hot is was there and how blindingly bright the sun is. It’s a place I never want to go back to.

Plus, with Prop 13 your property taxes will not fluctuate wildly up. Let’s face it, yes, some states have lower taxes, but in reality, they all, in one way or the other, get their pound of flesh.

It’s a good time to buy a house here, too. The property values are a LOT lower than they used to be.


92 posted on 03/14/2012 5:45:37 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: Melas

Considering one of the oldest and better mountain bikes was built near or in Marin County.....http://www.marinbikes.com/bicycles_ms/sfstore.php.....I find your comment odd.


93 posted on 03/14/2012 5:45:58 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: csmusaret

Temecula: Back country there is nice, just the poster was wanting to avoid ‘redneck mentality’ which is prevasive there. Honestly, I’d prefer the Elsinore to Norco area over Temcula. Especially because of some of the horrid traffic on the 15 corridor during commutes. In any case, you need to be aware of the really high summer heat there.

Ramona was good too, until the casino wars with Barona and the gangs.

Winchester would be as far south and east I’d go in that neck of the woods. Julian and the like are nice, but I’ve sworn off living in fire areas anymore.


94 posted on 03/14/2012 5:47:11 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Melas

Dump her.


95 posted on 03/14/2012 5:47:52 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: dragnet2
You arent even close to a real redneck . ....(Im still laughing at that one)

No one here cares about the name either unless its used in a derogatory manner by some transplant from california.lol ( still laughing...cant help it sorry)

Hell invite them to your part of the state, its all gnarly.

96 posted on 03/14/2012 5:51:01 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: randita

And there’s Trestles, Churches, Cottons, Lowers and Uppers..!!!! A few miles north...!!!


97 posted on 03/14/2012 5:53:11 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: Melas

Does this work in reverse? Would your wife follow YOU to hell and back?

BEG her to reconsider! Choosing between Texas vs Cesspoolifornication ...
is laughable!

DONT DO IT!

It’s not cold in Oregon or Washington btw, unless you’re up in elevation.

They call it the left coast for a reason.

Will she consider Wyomng or Montanta or Idaho? They are every bit as beautiful as the left coast states, and IMO more so! If you’re TRULY looking for some semblance of sanity!

GOOD LUCK!


98 posted on 03/14/2012 6:00:48 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: Melas

Big place. Lotsa variety in terrain.

Coast: San Diego, Orange, Ventura and San Luis Obispo counties historically voted GOP. (2008 may have broken the string). These places appeal most to me because of weather. The downside is they are costly. I am happier in a modest cottage near the coast, than a bigger place miles inland where it gets hot (not as hot and uncomfortable as muggy south and midwest of this great country).

With the exception of big cities, the west coast states are not liberal, and you should not let people on the internet mislead you about that.


99 posted on 03/14/2012 6:03:17 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Melas

California is headed over the cliff, economically speaking. Most of the ‘outback’ counties have sane enough residents, but if you plan on moving to one of the urban/suburban centers, you will quickly find that you are living in a lunatic ward. On top of the impending financial collapse, the idiot legislature (dominated by commie RATs for four decades)and the idiot governor (the retread, Moonbeam Brown)is about to raise taxes, mostly because one out of every three people living on welfare lives in California. On that note, California already has a nasty state income tax whereas Texas does not have one at all. If it wasn’t for certain personal financial reasons, I’d move to Texas where I would enjoy a great deal more liberty. California is essentially the old USSR with better weather.


100 posted on 03/14/2012 6:05:41 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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