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Mayan Elder Says World Won't End
The Pueblo Chieftan ^ | Tuesday, March 13, 2012 | GAYLE PEREZ

Posted on 03/14/2012 7:18:12 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Instead, he maintains better era will start Dec. 21

When the current Mayan calendar cycle ends Dec. 21, the world will not cease to exist, says a Mayan elder.

"There is a lot of information of what is going to happen on that date. The scholars say that the Mayan calendar ends, the world ends. But we, as Mayans, don't know anything about that," Elder Miguel Angel Chiquin said speaking through a Spanish translator Monday night at Colorado State University-Pueblo.

"The great teachings that our ancestors have left us over the centuries, the 21st of December, we will be moving over a cosmic bridge of light and hope at the great event of our fifth sun." Chiquin, known as “Abuelo Maya” (Maya Grandfather), spoke on the implications of the ending of the current Mayan calendar to a group of about 50 people Monday in the Occhiato University Center.

A native of Guatemala, Chiquin said when the current calendar cycle of more than 5,000 years ends Dec. 21, a new one will begin.

The event, which Chiquin described as being one of the biggest events of our cosmic lives, is something the Mayan people are looking forward to experiencing.

"The message we come to share with you brothers and sisters is that this great event of the fifth sun, the great event of the 21st of December 2012, is not only for the Maya Pueblo, it's for all humanity," he said.

He said the cosmic bridge that all humanity will start to travel Dec. 21, is going to help make for a better world.

"If it is true that the great events that are coming are marked by the Maya calendar then as the Mayan ambassador, we invite each one of you to come aboard that cosmic ship of the fifth sun."

Although there has been a lot of misinformation about death and destruction accompanying the end of the Mayan calendar, he said for the Maya Pueblo those are all false assumptions.

"We as Mayans since 1992 have begun to prepare to enlighten our white path and to light our yellow path, not only for the Maya Pueblo but for all humanity," he said.

Chiquin said in preparing to cross the cosmic bridge, people must prepare their spirit.

"Brothers and sisters, we are all part of the cosmos and each one of you are stars that shine in your own firmament," he said.

Chiquin told the crowd to not be afraid of the end of the calendar cycle.

"In just a few months, the fifth sun is coming but it is for all of you, it's for all of humanity," he said.

"The message of the elders is that the moment has come to break the mysteries and to end the mental sabotage. Do not have fear," he said. "We'll see you in the next 5,000 years."


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Religion; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: archaeoastronomy; calendar; godsgravesglyphs; mayan; megaliths; ohsomysteriouso; world
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1 posted on 03/14/2012 7:18:16 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I forget...do we turn our clocks forward or back that night?


2 posted on 03/14/2012 7:20:01 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: nickcarraway

I was hoping it was going to end but I will drink the bottle of Scotch I was planning anyway.


3 posted on 03/14/2012 7:20:55 PM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: nickcarraway

oh, yeah, the global consciousness and all that. gawd are things gonna get ug-ly.


4 posted on 03/14/2012 7:20:55 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (knowledge puffeth; information deludeth.)
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To: nickcarraway
I consulted Captain Obvious on this. He said neither would happen.


5 posted on 03/14/2012 7:21:04 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: nickcarraway

Shoot. I’m gonna have to keep working.


6 posted on 03/14/2012 7:21:17 PM PDT by brewcrew (Life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid. --John Wayne)
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To: nickcarraway
The aliens got to him.

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7 posted on 03/14/2012 7:22:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: nickcarraway

Q: Will the world end next December?

A: Your guess is as good as Mayan.


8 posted on 03/14/2012 7:26:58 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: nickcarraway

The 0bamas will getting ready to vacate the White House. The Exorcists and fumigators will follow..


9 posted on 03/14/2012 7:27:02 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: nickcarraway

We must listen to their cone-headed wisdom.

10 posted on 03/14/2012 7:27:15 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: nickcarraway

Ah, man. I’ve already sent out my farewell
cards.....


11 posted on 03/14/2012 7:28:06 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: unkus

the calendar is off by a month. Jan 20 the USA will have a chance to begin a better future.


12 posted on 03/14/2012 7:29:07 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: nickcarraway

13 posted on 03/14/2012 7:31:10 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: nickcarraway

BFL


14 posted on 03/14/2012 7:34:37 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: Liberty Valance

Love that cartoon.


15 posted on 03/14/2012 7:35:06 PM PDT by Jean2
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To: taterjay

Dec. 22 is approx. half way between Nov. 6 and Jan. 20.

I know what you mean.


16 posted on 03/14/2012 7:37:33 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Hunton Peck

They should have called in Az-tech support.


17 posted on 03/14/2012 7:37:38 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (My doctor told me to curtail my Walpoling activities.)
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To: nickcarraway
.....Well, I dunno how accurate those Mayans were with their calendar, but I do know that we just suffered another one of those freakin "Leap Year" days on Feb 29th!

My question would be that: If the Mayans did indeed predict the end of the world ....... Well.... consider this ..... there have been about 514 leap years since Julius Caesar created it in 45BC. Without that extra day every 4 years today would be July 28th, 2013. Also, the Mayan calendar did not account for leap year days .... so technically shouldn't the world have ended 7 months ago if the Mayan prediction was accurate?????

18 posted on 03/14/2012 7:39:18 PM PDT by R_Kangel
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To: nickcarraway
The bad news: Looks like I'll have to meet those last four mortgage payments after all.

The good news: I'll only have four more mortgage payments.

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920


19 posted on 03/14/2012 7:39:32 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: nickcarraway

20 posted on 03/14/2012 7:41:23 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (2012 isn't an election - it's a restraining order.)
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To: nickcarraway

Curious to know if the Myans counted the leap years?


21 posted on 03/14/2012 7:41:37 PM PDT by swamprebel (Where liberty dwells, there is my country.)
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To: Larry Lucido
Why wait?

ALPACA LIPS NOW!

22 posted on 03/14/2012 7:47:44 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: swamprebel
Curious to know if the Myans counted the leap years?

Yes, more accurately than we do if I remember my reading correctly. They were whiz-bang astrononomical observers and calendar-makers.

23 posted on 03/14/2012 7:51:31 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: nickcarraway

Hippies should love this!

It’s the Age of Aquarius!

(I see it as perhaps prediction that Uhbama will be out of office.....)


24 posted on 03/14/2012 7:53:11 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: nickcarraway

WHAT!! I sold everything. Those darn Mayans are such kidders. I shoulda known better than to trust an extinct civilization.


25 posted on 03/14/2012 7:55:34 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Olog-hai

I’m starting to think my old best friend is Captain Obvious.

Sorry, you just brought that to mind.


26 posted on 03/14/2012 7:56:01 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Olog-hai
<pst>

Hey,buddy

I have the Deed for the Brookl... I mean the Cosmic Bridge.

I can let you have it for inaudible whispering. Think how big a fee you can charge to cross ... I mean the whole earth having to cross it and all.

27 posted on 03/14/2012 7:56:39 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: nickcarraway

THe new Mayan Calendar is under development. Two main issues are yet to be decided:

1. Whether to go with “Kittens”, “Lighthouses”, or “Corvettes” as a theme, and

2. Whether to freak out future generations by having it “end” on a Fricday the 13th.


28 posted on 03/14/2012 7:59:17 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Islam: a transnational fascist government that demands worship.)
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To: nickcarraway; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
What a relief. ;')

Thanks nickcarraway.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


29 posted on 03/14/2012 8:02:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.)
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To: nickcarraway

Nobody has taken “leap days” into account regarding all this. If you add these in the wold should have ended 7 months go.


30 posted on 03/14/2012 8:02:10 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch ( go in peace , serve the Lord)
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To: nickcarraway

Eastern Standard Time?


31 posted on 03/14/2012 8:02:10 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: SunkenCiv

Just damn! I already changed my W-4 form, claiming 1492 dependents.


32 posted on 03/14/2012 8:08:24 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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FYI -- The Mayan calendar is entirely linked to the astronomical movements, and has nothing to do with any adjustments etc made to the modern calendars in use to day, leap days, etc etc. Period.

;') [singing] two thousand uno du'os party over says the lights of heaven /
tonight i'm gonna party like it's two thousand eleven
December 20, 2012

33 posted on 03/14/2012 8:09:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.)
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Well, that’s a relief.

But I hope the Mayans aren’t planning to start human sacrifices again, during the next sun cycle.


34 posted on 03/14/2012 8:09:47 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: nickcarraway

First, this is disappointing. The end of the world is probably the only thing that will end democrats.

Second, I’d put a lot more faith in what this guy has to say if he had made a calendar of the next 5,000 years. Hell, I’d be impressed if he could predict a few solar eclipses.


35 posted on 03/14/2012 8:17:42 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( "It happened. And we let it happen. - Peter Griffin, Family Guy)
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To: nickcarraway

It cannot end until the Chicago Cubs are one strike away from winning the World Series.


36 posted on 03/14/2012 8:18:55 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: taterjay
the calendar is off by a month. Jan 20 the USA will have a chance to begin a better future.

Bingo - Those Mayans were freaking brilliant!

37 posted on 03/14/2012 8:19:05 PM PDT by !1776!
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To: Cicero
But I hope the Mayans aren’t planning to start human sacrifices again

Too late...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2859203/posts

38 posted on 03/14/2012 8:19:39 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: BIGLOOK

:’D


39 posted on 03/14/2012 8:25:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.)
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To: Bernard Marx
According to Wikipedia

As a calendar for keeping track of the seasons, the Haab' was a bit inaccurate, since it treated the year as having exactly 365 days, and ignored the extra quarter day (approximately) in the actual tropical year. This meant that the seasons moved with respect to the calendar year by a quarter day each year, so that the calendar months named after particular seasons no longer corresponded to these seasons after a few centuries. The Haab' is equivalent to the wandering 365-day year of the ancient Egyptians.

40 posted on 03/14/2012 8:29:25 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: humblegunner

Found her head.

It wasn’t where others have said you keep it.


41 posted on 03/14/2012 8:32:09 PM PDT by Eaker (Remember, the enemy tends to wise up at the least convenient moments.)
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To: Eaker

“Yer”

Damn auto-correct.


42 posted on 03/14/2012 8:36:52 PM PDT by Eaker (Remember, the enemy tends to wise up at the least convenient moments.)
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To: R_Kangel

The Mayan calendar is more accurate than the Julian (or is it Gregorian?) calendar. They don’t have leap years because it’s based on planetary/lunar/solar movements. The leap year is supposed to account for an error in our common calendar. Something like 1/4 of a day off every year. So it’s not that the date of Dec. 21, 2012 is important... it’s the number of winter solstices and the “final” one just happens to fall on that date.


43 posted on 03/14/2012 8:44:27 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: !1776!

The Mayans probably meant the world would end for Marxist/Socialists. That would be nice!


44 posted on 03/14/2012 8:46:33 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: nickcarraway
Brothers and sisters, we are all part of the cosmos and each one of you are stars that shine in your own firmament," he said.

There are undoubtedly some people (on this planet) Elder Miguel Angel Chiquin hasn't met. Could this be interpreted to mean ... Some folks burn bright and have a tendency to burn others maybe in the form of the fifth sun?

Time to give up the ghost of Mayan past?

45 posted on 03/14/2012 8:48:42 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: nickcarraway

I guess this means “never Mayand.”


46 posted on 03/14/2012 8:52:10 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (.)
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To: dr_lew
"The eclipse pages of the Dresden Codex, for instance, are based on the formula that 405 lunations equal 11,958 days, giving a synodic month of 29.52592 days, only 7 minutes away from the modern value." ATLAS OF ANCIENT AMERICA, Coe, Snow and Benson.

Not bad for a culture without telescopes, computers, atomic clocks and other high-tech goodies.

47 posted on 03/14/2012 9:18:25 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx
Not bad for a culture without telescopes, computers, atomic clocks and other high-tech goodies.

Technology is beside the point. All you have to be able to do is count days and see the moon a few times a month. What's impressive is the attention span, but more than that it's the conception, or apprehension, of the celestial movements.

Note though, that in 12,000 days the 365 day year drifts by about 8 days from the tropical, i.e. seasonal, year. This is a slow drift, and evidently didn't concern them, just as it didn't concern the Egyptians.

48 posted on 03/14/2012 9:46:17 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: nickcarraway
"The great teachings that our ancestors have left us over the centuries, the 21st of December, we will be moving over a cosmic bridge of light and hope at the great event of our fifth sun."

I hate to tell you this, Chief, but that story will never sell in Hollywood. We need disaster, we need apocalypse, we need lots of death and mayhem if we're going to sell any tickets. That light and hope crap may work in politics but the people aren't going to pay good money to watch it.

49 posted on 03/14/2012 9:49:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

Maybe the Chief is pulling a “Herbie Bittman”.


50 posted on 03/14/2012 10:07:59 PM PDT by dr_lew
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