Skip to comments.Use Raised Garden Beds to Battle Deer and Dirt
Posted on 03/15/2012 4:40:37 AM PDT by orsonwb
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The cost of PVC pipe and a net to cover a 30 X 80 foot garden would be prohibitive.
Garden ping list?
Instead of landscape fabric at the bottom, use cardboard or several layers of newspaper. There are a couple of advantages over LF.
You do not have to till or remove the grass. Just plop it right on top of the grass.
Also, the LF will prevent earthworms from accessing your garden from beneath. The NP or CB will allow the worms to till the soil for you by working their way from below.
Less work and a better garden. :-)
Wife has constructed a 2” PVC pipe frame and plastic deer netting to keep deer out of the veggie garden. We’re starting seeds this week.
I’ll try the newspaper. Less work is always good. Thanks for the tip.
Can you give a few details of the fence (especially since it is working)? We have deer .... and groundhogs. I’ve been using a portion of my sister-in-law’s raised bed garden next door - they have a dog that keeps the deer & chuckies away. This year, I’m putting the garden on my property, closer to the house... no dog ... so I need to plan for 4-legged invaders.
My bro put in "old wallpaper" in his paths. works great.
I used several layers of cardboard/newspapers right over the grass, and then heaped with compost, to make raised bed. Worked great, few or no weeds, and so easy.
I’m looking for someone who would be willing to send me a few (10-20) seeds for mimosa trees.
Anyone on the gardening list have some pods laying around?
We can make arrangements so that I can pay for the stamp.
I’ve heard the secret of keeping deer out is to play upon their natural fears of being enclosed.
Sure, they can jump a 6 ft fence,
but if, in doing so, they are in an enclosure that bothers their “claustrophobic” tendencies, they won’t do it.
So, for fruit trees, a 5 ft fence far enough back from the tree that they can’t reach over, but close enough to be “confining”, will deter them.
But, so will a Great Pyrenees.
More info on the fence, please?
How does newspaper keep the deer out?
Thanks. I’ve been thinking of trying this.
What about racoons?
“How does newspaper keep the deer out?”
It has nothing to do with the deer. It’s a weed blocker that’s cheaper to use than landsacpe material.
Hmmmm.... roast chuckie would go good with fresh garden vegetables.
CCI mini caps make little noise. Just sayin’, whenever Grover Groundhog shows up.
Plant cucumbers around the circumference of the garden. Raccoons will not cross because the prickly vines hurt their sensitive feet.
I had some, will have to check. In any event, I’ll be happy to send you some. May have to wait until next pods if I can’t find the ones I had.
I’ve seen deer jump a five foot fence with no problem. I’ve heard that if a deer cannot see what is on the other side of a fence, they won’t jump.
I may be able to find some mimosa seed pods. There may still be a few in the yard.
A deer in the freezer won’t eat your garden.
I bought some on ebay from a mexico supplier and they wouldn’t sprout, they just molded in the starter soil.
I don’t blame the supplier so much - I waited too long to try to sprout them.
I appreciate your willingness to help out.
When you know for sure that you can do it, we’ll work it out via FReepmail.
We have mimosas all over the place. They are not native to Missouri but have taken off since being imported.
I cut down a large mimosa that had died for unknown reasons and was amazed at the wood. It is very dense, almost like walnut.
When do the seeds drop ?
Good to hear that. I’m in the NE Ks area. The folks at Powell Gardens (mid mo) were skeptical that these trees would survive our winters.
The Ozarks aren’t that much milder, to be sure.
Great advice - anyone confirm that this works?
Might be a great barrier around a chicken coop as well, eh?
We do grow lots of chives, sage, rosemary, parsley, basil and hot peppers in flower "boxes" on the deck. The "boxes" hang over the outside of the railing, about ten feet off the ground, are somewhat difficult for the dogs to reach, and completely safe from deer.
bttt for later reading—this is quite intriging.
So you don`t have to construct something out of wood, you can just put down cardboard, newspapers, soil and compost? Wow. That is amazing.
I’ve got seeds but was not looking forward to backbreaking work. I’m getting too old for that! :)
I’ll check back here when I have more time.
The garden is in its third year and doing fine. Weeds have not been a problem in my beds, although I get them in the paths a little bit. I have mats made out of recycled tires rolled out to cover the paths between the beds. What weeds do come up are easily pulled.
I have a 6 foot wire fence around the garden. The deer broke in the first winter -- not over the fence, right through the gate. (The latch had rusted). They damaged the fence trying to get out. My husband straightened it up, and I tied flourescent streamers around the top. We've had no more trouble with those varmints. Woodchucks have not bothered the garden, although we have them here. I do have a layer of rabbit fencing around the bottom.
This is a picture taken last year at the height of the growing season.
You can see the crimps in the fence used to straighten the wire where the deer bent the fence trying to get out. In the first picture, you can see the gate "latch" I constructed to keep the gate closed after the deer broke the latch on the arbor gate. Actually the latch rusted through and broke right off allowing the deer access. They did the damage to the fence trying to get out.
Irish Spring soap in a bag.
Coyote urine (Yes, it is sold in bulk)
"Deer-proof" flowers (They just bit off the flowers and spit them out)
BUT....The ONLY thing that worked 100% was human hair!
Every time I got a haircut I would replenish it.
Worked like a charm!
That's called "lasagna gardening". Look it up on the web. You'll find lots of information.
Yea I can confirm it works. I always plant cucumbers around my patch of sweet corn. I have never had loss due to raccoons but my neighbors have. The idea comes from the Indians. Its called the three sisters. They planted corn with beans and cucumbers. The corn needs nitrogen, the beans put nitrogen into the ground and surrounded by the spreading cucumbers kept the raccoons out of the corn. I have always had an overabundance of cucumbers but the local grocery stores purchase some and food banks are appreciative.
Ive heard the secret of keeping deer out is to play upon their natural fears of being enclosed.
I’ve had a 5’ fence around my 40x60 garden for several years and have never had any deer jump into the garden even though we see 6-10 deer at the nearby feeder every evening. Many times my wife and I will be working in the garden while the deer are at the feeder 50’ away.
A couple more things about the “3 sisters” -
the corn provides a climbing stalk for the pole beans,
and the broad leaves on the squash provide weed denying ground cover.
I built a fence around my raised garden with pallets, drove rebar inside them to keep them in place. I’ve stapled cheap plastic garden fence to the insides to keep out ground squirrels, and provide trellis.
I have a disgarded tube frame from a portable canapy over the top with camoflage netting to provide a bit of shade and let the wind through.
Spinach survived frost, snow and cold all winter. Salad greens would have survived, but the birds ate them.
An elderly man shared a tip with me regarding using an electric fence to keep agressive deer out of the garden. He said to smear peanut butter in several locations on the electric fence (be sure to turn it off first :-)). Since deer are attracted to peanut butter, when they stick their nose or tongue to the wire, they get the shock of their life and won't ever come back.
My brother watched a doe do this last fall when he employed the trick. He said when the doe stuck her nose to smell the peanut butter, he saw the blue zap hit her in the nose, and said she did a double back flip and flew past him at blazing speed. He still laughs when he talks about it.
4 row electric fence around our 75’ x 75’ garden is worthless against our deer. But then we live in the woods and often have 9 or 10 grazing below our deck first thing in the morning.....
Yup, human hair works...but it’s quite a job keeping it fresh (only lasts a few weeks) on a 75’x 75’ garden.......
A 30-30 works well, also!
A good read. But contrary to the article, you can use the current pressure treated wood. Copper arsenic is no longer used for pressure treating and the current chemicals pose no threat to your garden. This is from the horticulturalist who taught my Master Gardeners class last year. I used 5/4” x 6” decking planks for my new raised beds built last year. I think its more sturdy, and certainly less expensive, than the Trex or other composite decking material.
Anytime I needed more hair, I just dropped by the barber shop or beauty parlor and asked them if I could sweep it up for them and took it with me in a shopping bag or two.
We’ve not had luck catching them out where we could use the mini cap method (& we have the means to implement readily available) .... if they do come out, if you try to crack a window or the door, they are so observant, they run immediately & there are plenty of places to duck into close by.
We’re trying some other options .... but it has come to WAR .... they’ve really made a mess around the outbuildings & the barn.
We put dog fur around ours. We have an abundance of it (dog sheds like crazy). It seems to work!
Check out “HOW TO HAVE A GREEN THUMB WITHOUT AN ACHING BACK,” by Ruth Stout. An oldie but goodie. She used newspaper covered with straw. Same idea. You can plant through it and as it decomposes you just add more straw. She was in her 80’s and developed this idea so she could keep gardening. I’ve tried it and it will keep down the weeds and enrich the soil.
Years ago my Dad read that hanging mesh bags of dog fur around your garden fence would keep the deer out.
I honest to gosh brushed the GSD and saved the fur AND mailed it across the country to him.
It didn’t work. ;). But we had a good laugh over it..
Didn’t say it does. :-)
Won’t keep the rabbits out.. chewed right through mine last year.
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